my little smilies didnt shot up except the little smilie face one. hmm and

Dont worry ill put out the fire .

randy

Does this guy look like he would steal from you?????????????
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/tgowens/

[img] http://www.tgowens.com/terryoval2.gif [/img]

Loyde

quote Originally posted by FastFieros: Does this guy look like he would steal from you????????????? http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/tgowens/ [img] http://www.tgowens.com/terryoval2.gif [/img] Loyde

he doensnt look like the kind of person that would steal, but never judge a book by its cover

Randy

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quote Originally posted by fieroshop: Is this too much to ask.

Apparently it is. I'd rather buy a used Corvair from Ralph Nader than take you at your word. If you've got such a strong legal case, just let the courts deal with it and shut up. You used up your credibility in my mind a long time ago.

I tell ya, people, this thread is better than a sitcom.

quote Originally posted by FastFieros: Does this guy look like he would steal from you????????????? Loyde

Well I sure wish he'd get his buns in here and straighten this all out. Anybody know when we might hear from him?????

You know, something just occured to me, if there was an earthquake and CA fell into the pacific what would we do for entertainment?

Archie

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quote Originally posted by mgbringo: Anyone else getting tired of hearing about George and Terry? Why don't you guys leave your problems off of here? I wonder if California would like to check into tax withholding, FICA, Workers Comp, etc?

I don't think you guys have any idea what kind of bureaucratic garbage goes on here in California.

Saying he's an employee is probably not a very good move. That opens a big can of worms.

I love this thread! It's another shinning example of Fieroshops BS! I have read all of the threads that have been done on this crappy business and the that these guys
spew out is unbelievable. I have never seen a statement anywhere that i've agreed with more than what Archie said about these guys deserving each other! They do deserve each other Terry is just as much a liar as the Fiero shop is. BTW why do you still call yourself the Fiero shop when you have left it to someone else to run??
Anyways, just because Terry is a good ebay seller doesn't mean that he's an honest guy. I'd get the parts i sold to someone pretty fast too if they were stolen!
I really can't believe anyone still buys things from these guys anymore. All three examples of the Fiero shop that are on here are rude, childish, dishonest, and just plain not to bright. Although i shouldn't say three because sometimes Terry is an employee and sometimes he isn't.

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Dave Gunsul
Activities Director
Northern IL. Fiero Enthusiasts
86 GT modified
85 SE daily driver

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Apparently it is. I'd rather buy a used Corvair from Ralph Nader than take you at your word. If you've got such a strong legal case, just let the courts deal with it and shut up. You used up your credibility in my mind a long time ago. I tell ya, people, this thread is better than a sitcom.

Yea, I think he knows the fieroshops days are numbered!! Not many of the Cali. fiero owners I know deal with them!!! And I've always told people not to. The whole thing is just a big BS, rip off.

DXR_DAD

Now George I thought we already decided that this just makes you look sleezy-

Put your $$ where that big mouth of yours is and have him arrested already.

Oh wait, you can't put your $$ anywhere can you - especially if it is in the form of a check.

BTW isn't passing bad checks against the law???

You disgust me.

Someone please get me a double vodka & 1/2 + 1/2 with a slice of orange. And Boomer stop hogging all the damn blankets .

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MsBeth

quote Originally posted by m0sh_man: If you owned a business i figure you had insurance on it, which will pay for most/all/more of your loss, My buddy's car audio store was broken into twice and insurance paid for it both times. they way i see it is take him to court and let the people deside what is fair and what is not, thats about the only way you can go about it.

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Wouldn't that be the easy thing to do?? You DO have insurance, don't you George?

I think everyone is getting a bit sidetracked here. I feel that if George knows for a fact that parts and tools were stolen, then he would have no problem filing charges and recovering what rightfully belonged to him. What is the necessity of acting like a 5 year old and dragging everyone else into his business? Do you really need friends THAT badly?

I also know for a fact that George knows where Terry is staying, and how to get there, and how to get in touch with him. If all of this took place over a week ago, why hasn't he been arrested yet? I have an idea....since he was an 'employee' of yours, why don't you just direct the authorities to the address you sent his W-2???

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quote Originally posted by MsBeth: Oh wait, you can't put your $$ anywhere can you - especially if it is in the form of a check.

I had heard rumors that George had rubber checks. I won't say where but it was a good source.

.....And now we know the rest of the story.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/015069.html

George, Looks like you really stepped on yourself. Promisary notes with signatures are legal contract's.

Does this mean the show is over?

quote Originally posted by Jefrysuko: Does this mean the show is over?

Not!!!

I'm sure George is thinking of some BS to say!!!

quote Originally posted by Jefrysuko: Does this mean the show is over?

I think it's just begun..

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Now's the time that Terry need's to SUE the sh!t out of George for *SLANDER*... Ohh, George you give Fiero Owner's a BAD NAME!!!!

If my snoring keeps you awake, please let me know ..

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Boomtastic

quote Originally posted by MsBeth: Now George I thought we already decided that this just makes you look sleezy- You disgust me. Someone please get me a double vodka & 1/2 + 1/2 with a slice of orange. And Boomer stop hogging all the damn blankets .

Yeah, what MsBeth said...

100

I don't get it. If George knows this document is around he would have to be a TOTAL IDIOT to come to this group with these threads.

Oh, that explains it, he IS a TOTAL IDIOT.

What's in the water out there anyway?

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Well archie must have been watching it like a hawk, And everyone go read terry's reply to all this in his "do you wanna hear the other side of this story" topic.

and back to our sponsors

quote Originally posted by m0sh_man: Well archie must have been watching it like a hawk,

No, I just happened onto it just at 99......made my 100 post and then went back to edit it.

I think I'm gonna write a book on it.

OK, while we are still all gathered here listening intently I want to ask Terry a Question that we all want the answer to.

However, I'm gonna do that in the new thread, because I don't wanna side track this thread from what we are all expecting next... an answer from George.

OK, George, you got some 'splainin' to do!

Archie (Think of me often)

Go BETH Go!!!!!!! Tell it like it is girlfriend!!!!!

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If George wasn't sick before...... I'm sure he's sick now!!!! POOR George, has no friend's and no where to go, well, He could go back to his empty shop...LoL!!!

quote Originally posted by Jefrysuko: I had heard rumors that George had rubber checks. I won't say where but it was a good source.

HMMM... Rubber Checks? Not paying employees? (see Terry's thread)
I wonder how someone can stay in business being in the red? If he filed a Police report, it's so he could get money from the insurance company. Isn't that Fraud?

sounds like insurance fraud to me

quote Originally posted by Archie: ...if there was an earthquake and CA fell into the pacific what would we do for entertainment? Archie

Ummmm... Go to the beach in Nevada?

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Raydar

From the Department of Redundancy Department.

quote Originally posted by Archie: 100 Oh, that explains it, he IS a TOTAL IDIOT. [This message has been edited by Archie (edited 02-27-2002).]

ROTFLMAO

MsBeth

Hey Archie, you remind me of my exwife, you must be her sister, constantly bitching and blaming others for her mistakes.
You were told to ship the clutch to the place you bouhgt it from and they would do something about it. But you decided to cry like a girl so until you become a man again please go cry to your mommy anf noit me cause I don't give a d---- about your clutch that you can't even prove where you bouhgt it from.
You have no reciept from me so shove your clutch where the sun don't shine.
As far the rest of you who think Terry is a good guy, I guess you like dealing with thieves and embezzelers. That shows how low some of you can go.
Me I have a lot of friends and a lot of customers who know I warrant my products and stand behind them as I have in the past and will in the future. Some of you have purchased from me and know I will refunfd if the product is not up to your expectations.
As for Bill Cady I suggest you quit your lying and stick your head back in the sand before I bring out all the info I have on you and take you to court for slander, I warned you once so butt out.
I am done on this forum and will not post or even read any more. For those that want to see my new products and who have been good customers you will be able to see new products shortly on my web site.
For thos that think I am stupid enough to post things about a person a leave myself open for slander. Think again. I have the proof and will continue to gather more to hand over to the Richmond, Police. They have asked me to get dome more facts for them.
No I don't know where Terry is and after I left a message on his cell phone to call and resolve this he chose too ignore so I have filed criminal charges against him.
Have fun guys I won't be reading any more of this nor will I ever post here again.

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quote Originally posted by fieroshop: nor will I ever post here again.

::The crowd roars their approval::

But tempers their enthusiasm with doubt about him keeping his word again.

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Promises, promises.

'bout time for George to change his name, move to another part of the country, and start working on VW's... seems like he's washed himself out of the Fiero business.

Bye, George... thanks for playing. Consolation prizes are at the door...

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For the first time in my life...I'm totally speechless.

As for Bill Cady I suggest you quit your lying and stick your head back in the sand before I bring out all the info I have on you and take you to court for slander, I warned you once so butt out.

George do what ever you feel!!!! Your full of BS!!!! Your business is full of BS!!!

Everyone one this forum knows what you are!!!! So go on sue me!!!!!! I'm sure you need the money!!!! Hell you couldn't even pay DaRkLoRd the money you owed him(bounced check) I'm sure we have proof of that too!!!

This list could go on for ever! Your shop is a rip off!!! and I'll make sure everyone I know will know also!!!

And about your rip off shop!!! Why not tell everyone about that JUNK car you gave away at you "Car Show"......Didn't the winner give it back to you George you and your shop are a big JOKE!!!!!!!!! Is any there any truth to any of what I say?????

DXR_DAD

quote Originally posted by fieroshop: Have fun guys I won't be reading any more of this nor will I ever post here again.

Just like you will stand behind all your clutches, just like you are no longer running the shop, just like Terry is and then is not working for you??
Hmm, i don't know why but i have trouble believing you for some reason.

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Dave Gunsul
Activities Director
Northern IL. Fiero Enthusiasts
86 GT modified
85 SE daily driver

George, I know you won't see this because you said you wouldn't be back, but there could be a chance.

I talked with Chief Samuels this morning after talking with Sgt. Medina. I think they would both really like to help you. Appears right now that I can't obtain any information on an investigation that doesn't exist. Start that ball rolling.

"Bob's Big Boy and Ginty Heating and Cooling join other Pennock Fiero Forum members in condemning the Fieroshop".

I, on the otherhand have still not formed an opinion on this subject.

More news as it develops.....

can someone help me recover....from drinking all of archies beer...hehehe ...keith