Go any pics jelly??

Aluminum head TPI?

Thanks!

JM

quote Originally posted by Archie: Man I hope Cliff don't mind me posting up all these pictures.

Don't worry about it. I just deleted 400Mb of unused pictures (about 4000 pictures people uploaded but never used in any of their posts).

There are still over 11,000 pictures left so the ones you are posting won't make much difference.

quote Originally posted by Sleeper: i justed asked a question and Archies blows it up into something else...and rgeenic what i meant about original/right way was that if maybe Archie learned/figured how to do it without his adaptor and run the pulleys like every other motor. as for me riding in a v8 fiero, no i have not, but i have drove in a 3.4 twincam turbo fiero that would smoke all them v8 fieros. and me building one , nope, why would i want to build something that going to break when you push it to the limit. v8's weren't made for transaxles, clutches just won't hold the power.(n* exempt)

V8s weren't made for transaxles? A 3.4 twincam turbo that outruns the V8s is OK though?

Wow...

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Photoshop rendering of planned exterior modifications.

quote Originally posted by Slammed Fiero: Go any pics jelly?? Aluminum head TPI? Thanks! JM

Archie, I hope you don't mind me postin a few pics for Slammed Fiero on your tread.

Sorry 2 of these pics aren't very good quality, I can take more if you need.

Right now the engine has stock heads on it, but I have a set of '98 Vortec cast heads to go on there.

This pic shows the Moroso pump with the connections to the Engine block. The pump wiring is the orange wire with the 10 amp fuse in it. This was my First ( used) carburated engine which I spun a rod bearing in.

This pic shows the general position of the water pump. I just have the Tuned port intake sat on top of the old engine.

This pic is of the Tunedport motor in the car, Complements of Skitime!!

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I've been gone for a while...now I remember why.

Some people here (yes WCF and Sleeper (same person?) this means you) are simply too immature to deal with.

WCF, you offer a product that competes with Archie's kits, fine.
You want to stress that your kit is comparable/better than Archie's, fine.
All I have to say is, find a way to show the quality of your kit (without doctored, carefully taken pics of non-technical parts of your kit, don't think we didn't notice) without slamming on someone else's kit, in their own threads.

I liked the idea of a show-off between you both. I kinow you're in CA, but...since your kit is so much better than Archie's, you should JUMP at the chance to steal his business forever...

Otherwise, quit wasting our time.
Thanks.

quote Originally posted by TRiAD: V8s weren't made for transaxles? A 3.4 twincam turbo that outruns the V8s is OK though? Wow...

first off i'm Craig and i don't work at WCF...and in reply to your quote above go back a few posts and read Turbo88's post, bucko.

Hi Archie, I agree totally, the scariest/hardest thing about engine swaps on the Fiero is the particuliar Fiero and it's gremlins (or damage due to years of neglect... WHY DON'T PEOPLE TAKE CARE OF THESE CARS?!?)

Say, I'm only 30min from Napa, I'll have to find this fellow Fioerophile

Best!
Ben.

PS: That's one of the most amazing things, putting a V8 in your fiero really *improves* the reliability (*new* engine, and the basic 350 design is simply more reliable than any stock fiero motor.) Great stuff.

quote Originally posted by Archie: Cool, you should keep your eyes open, because next week I'm going to give you the play by play of a ZZ4 TPI swap we just completed for a guy in Napa, CA. We did the whole swap in just 6 working days while he visited relatives in Chicago. The "Test Drive" on that car was him driving the car back to Napa, CA from Chicago. He made the trip with no problems and has since joined PFF. Anyway, if you guys want, I'll make that the project for next week. Archie

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Ben Cannon
88 Formula, T-top Metalic Red
88 Formula, Silver
87 Coupe, Metalic Red
"Every Man Dies, not every man really Lives"
-Mel Gibson, "Braveheart"

Triad - go back to page 2 ( bottom ) and FULLY read this time- by the way - still sorry Archie

This is a good thread to learn from...
Lets not mess it up with bickering.

I don't see how a N* doesn't apply to the whole transaxle issue. It puts out a fairly healthy 290ft lbs of TQ. About 110 more than any stock Fiero. Same issues still apply. As for WCF's turbo DOHC smoking any V8 Fiero , what about the car on Archies page that runs a documented 10 sec pass?? OR my Friend in California (yet to get internet) who runs a 383 to the tune of mid 11's ??

There's always someone faster...and in this case it's an Archie Car...

JM
PS keep this thread going

Gone in 60 Hours

Actually, 59 hours of labor and we finished the car, did some test driving, and had it loaded up last night about 10pm. I didn't get time last night to make this post but here are some in process pics from our work yesterday.

Because of low decklid clearance we had to use a K&N filter mounted to a GN air horn.

Here is what it looked like up on the lift. Much of the time yesterday was spent laying out & welding together the exhaust system.... this is a good view of that too.

Here is a view of the muffler etc. from the top before we put the new floor in the trunk.

I'm still pretty tired this am and gonna goof off today. So, I'll be around to answer any constructive detail questions you may have.

BTW, Cliff..... Thanks for clearing out room for my pics. 'cus I Got a bunch of 'em.

BTW, this car was in a movie called "The Boiler Room" it may have other movie credits because it appears to be identical to the Fieros that were in "The Rock". I'm going to do a little more research on that.

Archie

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Just how fast do you want to go?

Wow... As in wow! and wow! Incredible how much effort you put into keeping everybody updated! I'm learning loads here! Once again WOW! Great work Archie, I hope you keep on doing this kind of stuff

Wish I could ask a question, but as a newbie it's still a bit for me

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Archie:

Really, REALLY, enjoying this thread,(other than the few minor interruptions). Please continue in this vein, as we could all learn allot! Know how pressed for time you must be and just want you to know that I for one (and you KNOW there are many others),appreciate the time and information you share.

Keep up the excellent work!

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Archie--What is circled? Up close it almost looks like a Ferrari emblem, but that would be an odd place for it.

I like that K&N/GN setup.

Wow, Thanks guys. I'd love to keep doing stuff like this. Provided Cliff doesn't mind.

If there is anything I like doing better than working on Fieros it is talking about them.

Over the last several years I've documented in photos several Fiero projects, so I've got a lot of this kind of stuff I can show you.

I ment to ask the owner about that, but keep forgetting to ask him. It appears to be a Ferrari sticker (patch) loosely applied over a "boo boo" on the front corner. I guess it would give new meaning to the term Ferrari patch.

Archie

BTW, did anyone notice how nice Jelly's TPI system looks in that car? I like the color choice with the red valve covers and the red plate on top of the TB.

Looks cool, Jelly

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Awesome pics. Awesome car. Awesome job, Archie. Thank you. I'm looking forward to more swap pics, etc. Lots of fun, and great for giving the rest of us ideas on how to spend all the money we haven't even made, yet.

Hey Archie

First i wanted to say thank you for exchanging my flywheel i receved it last week. i have been following your progress on this conversion and i can't wait to install mine. In one of your postings you indicated you have a new video with detailed wiring information. Is it available? How do i go about getting a copy? This is the one area i do have a lot of questions/concerns.

Thanks
Msaby

quote Originally posted by Msaby: Hey Archie First i wanted to say thank you for exchanging my flywheel i receved it last week. Thanks Msaby

Your Welcome, the new video has been transfered to my Video Editing Department. The screwball over there (me) will be working on it all of next week.

Archie

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Just how fast do you want to go?

Archie a question if I may; You mentioned not knowing what you were going to find when starting a new project, especially concerning the cradle. Well the engine is out of my 86SE and I'm thinking about dropping the cradle to clean it and replace the mounts. How DO you remove stuck cradle bolts and whats the response when one (dread) breaks off. Are there any tips you've picked up over the years? Are new bolts readily available? What about prep work before you get the wrenches out? Thanks for help.
Dave

If i may answer that for you archie. (First of all incredible job! What it must be like to have that kind of money to spend!?!)

I just got my complete restoration of my '86 GT back together with some minor gremlins. But the only problem i had with cradle bolts was with the rear drivers bolt. when we were putting the cradle back in, the bolt would not tighten it would just spin. We eventually had to cut a hole through the car frame (not the cradle but the car) to get access to the nut inside. Seems like it rusted pretty bad and could not hold the nut tight anymore so it just spun when you tried to tighten it. Once the cradle bolt was tight we just welded the cover plate back over the openning.

With the help of my friend's auto shop here and with the unlimited supply of his knowledge and tools this was a rather easy job. Could just imagine what it would have been like in the back yard.
LOL

olliver

quote Originally posted by Nashco: Damn..what's the frickin' problem! I keep seeing this, thinking the questioning of Archie will stop soon...but seriously, enough! He's done more of these swaps than most people have changed oil, I'm sure! I trust him on the v8 swaps, that's what he does, and he is known for doing it the best. I'm out of this from now on, but I just couldn't hold it in any longer. Enough. Bryce 88 GT

I totally agree. Archie has been doing this for a while, and if there were any skeptics out there to worry about it would be from past customers. I think we should give Archie credit where credit is due. Leave him alone and let his work speak for itself.

Sly

Quality Work, Archie. You probably don't remember me but we spoke a few months ago. I'm from South Texas and am building my small block as we speak. As for everyone else here's my comments.

1) You WILL NOT find good quality work by being cheap. It will cost alot of money.

2) Experience counts more than dollars. Many people learn the hard way. If you are a cheapskate then you will have much time to think about this while you walk down the road after your car breaks down.

3) Don't be a player hater. If you do not have time or money to do a V8 swap then leave others alone that do. If you are living in a garage apartment eating Cup Noodles with your 3 kids trying to pay your bills then face it. You will never own a V8 Fiero. Save up enough to paint over your faded red 84 SE next year and move on.

As for you Archie, you have a wonderful business. I called Archie one day and he picked up the phone on like the 5th ring. I know he's busy and I know by talking to me he took time away from a project much like the one shown here. I asked the most basic swap questions ( after viewing the website) and questioned about the block I planned to use. The answers were clear and to the point. No B.S. because there was not time for B.S. That is what to expect.

Yes it is hard to clean up other people's messes when tearing into these cars. That is probavly the hardest part of any project ever.

Archie, you have my support for what that is worth. Have a good day.

So whadda think, you all want to see another play by play V-8 swap?

Where do you get the engraved plates that are on the TPI? I have been looking for one for the LT-1.

quote Originally posted by Archie: So whadda think, you all want to see another play by play V-8 swap?

Naaa that's enough for me.

Of course we do what kind of question is that?

I'm sorry was I yelling?

ok, i looked but i'm kinda dence. is the trunk shallower or narrower or a combo of both.

and yes, i'd like to see all i can.

Yes!!!!!! I would love to see more stuff like this

Heck yes, I want more!

I've enjoyed this thread. Thanks for posting the pictures.

Cost was mentioned as far as the v8 swaps. I was curious about the costs afterwards. What has been the general experience of RUNNING the v8 Fiero's (other than gas). Are maintenance costs higher? Breakdowns the same? Less??? This of course, is assuming reasonable driving and not beating it into the ground.

Thanks.

quote Originally posted by Archie: So whadda think, you all want to see another play by play V-8 swap?

Nah......

OF COURSE WE DO YOU FOOL!!!?!? Bring it on!!!!

I'd like to see everyone who performs swaps into the fiero profesionally do something like this, ideally on a regular basis "here's the car we're working on"

Keep everyone here drooling!

Best!
Ben.

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Ben Cannon
88 Formula, T-top Metalic Red
88 Formula, Silver
87 Coupe, Metalic Red
"Every Man Dies, not every man really Lives"
-Mel Gibson, "Braveheart"

quote If you are... eating Cup Noodles with your 3 kids trying to pay your bills then face it. You will never own a V8 Fiero. Save up enough to paint over your faded red 84 SE next year and move on.

*sniff* Ouch! *sniff* That kinda *sniff* hurt!
(You have no idea how close to home that was; only thank goodness our home is not a garage apartment)

quote So whadda think, you all want to see another play by play V-8 swap?

Oh, yes, please! May we?

quote Originally posted by Archie: So whadda think, you all want to see another play by play V-8 swap?

Please sir may I have some more?

quote Originally posted by 80's BOY: ...If you are living in a garage apartment eating Cup Noodles with your 3 kids trying to pay your bills then face it. You will never own a V8 Fiero. Save up enough to paint over your faded red 84 SE next year and move on.

"Maaaan, Thats COLD!"

I want more Archie. This is what I envisioned this forum to be when I signed on for the first time. I was planning on a 3.4 swap this winter, but if you keep showing us these pics Archie my wife may have to go without food or clothing for the next little while cause I think I am leaning towards one of your V8 monsters. What was that old comercial " I should have had a V8" Keep them coming.

As for the CSI waterpump:

They are now rated at 35-40 GPH

Rebuild is actually a new motor(center section) $100 dollars.

Used mine for over 5000 miles this summer. When combined with a four core radiator, it cools better than the stock V6! My fan turns on less than my V6 did, I am also running a restrictor instead of a thermostat. I have no scoops or other added methods of cooling in my system.

Ask anyone who builds hotrods for a living(MN has more per capita than any state) and they will swear by CSI.

Jim
87 GT T-TOP V8
87 GT

Do we want some more????? Yeah, we want some more! Are you kidding? This is like being invited to watch THE chappel ceiling being painted!!!

"We like it"
"We love it"
"We want some more of it"

(Edited for typo, it's late...or early, or something!)
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