Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 79/146) Patrick MAR 16, 02:06 PM quote Originally posted by maryjane: I grew up and attended school in the small town Highlands Tx, population then of about 2000... Possibly population density did play a major role in polio transmission then, as my high school alone had an enrollment of 2000 students. quote Originally posted by MadMark: What I am trying to get at here is that Polio, while it is no longer a threat to us, had a huge impact on society in the late 40's and early 50's when it was rampant. I am sure that almost everyone of you that are over 50 have a friend that had polio. Informative post. My only quibble is that perhaps age 60 and over would be a little more precise. quote Originally posted by Patrick Here: Kids my age or younger must've arrived on the scene after the vaccine was widely available, as none of us were afflicted. (I was born in Dec '55.) MadMark MAR 16, 04:41 PM quote Originally posted by maryjane: Yep.MonthS at minimum. "We" don't have a vaccine.Researchers have "possible" vaccines, but............... Researchers have developed vaccines and are starting to test them on animals, and if that goes well there could be human trials later in the year. But even if scientists can celebrate having developed a vaccine before Christmas, there is still the massive job of being able to mass-produce it. It means, realistically, one would not be ready until at least the middle of next year. All of this is happening on an unprecedented timescale and using new approaches to vaccines, so there are no guarantees everything will go smoothly. Remember there are four coronaviruses that already circulate in human beings and we've known about them for decades. They cause the common cold, and we don't have vaccines for any of them. They have bypassed some of the normal steps. In this case I dont believe they have tested this new vaccine on animals, and they are already starting human testing. maryjane MAR 16, 04:46 PM quote Originally posted by MidEngineManiac: Border closed with a few exceptions as of Wednesday. https://globalnews.ca/news/...-address-nation/amp/ At least 330 million exceptions. Americans with the usual documentation will be allowed to come and go as usual. williegoat MAR 16, 05:27 PM I just went to the grocery store, I hadn’t been in a couple of weeks. I expected them to be out of TP, but I was surprised to see that they were out of everything! They didn’t even have bags for the groceries, everything was just checked out, then put back in the cart. The shelves were half empty. Very little produce, sparse selections of meat, no ground beef. Did all the cows die of corona virus? They did have all kinds of rinselburger (imitation cow) for sale, but I did not think that now was the time to try it, what with having to conserve what little TP I have on hand. I really don’t understand how or why it is like this. If people are just hording, they should be at or near a saturation point by now. Has production and transportation of all these commodities completely broken down? Is it going to be like this all spring? Everyone was calm and friendly, but I don’t understand how an entire country like ours can go to hell in a matter of one week. olejoedad MAR 16, 05:41 PM It wasn't overnight...you all have been working on it for several years. MidEngineManiac MAR 16, 05:56 PM It's been more than a few years. When most of us grew up everyone had a pantry with 4-6 weeks supply on hand. Since the 90s that concept has slowly disappeared in favor of buying a weeks or even a few days supplies at a time. Too much other stuff to spend the money on. Then when something happens everybody's screwed. williegoat MAR 16, 06:02 PM quote Originally posted by olejoedad: It wasn't overnight...you all have been working on it for several years. So after years of trying, I finally ate all the cows? I guess that could explain the TP thing. Jake_Dragon MAR 16, 06:02 PM Day three Patrick MAR 16, 09:57 PM quote Originally posted by williegoat: I just went to the grocery store... I really don’t understand how or why it is like this. I was in the produce section of a large grocery store on Friday late afternoon, and I wanted two 5 lb bags of oranges, but they had gotten mixed together with a bunch of 3 lb bags. So I was in the process of separating them (by grabbing their plastic mesh bags) and some guy behind me says what I thought was... "Don't take them all." I figured he was just kidding around (as by now I had my two 5 lb bags and there were perhaps a dozen other bags of oranges still sitting there), so I smiled at him and said... "I'm not taking them all, there's plenty left." He then shouts at me... " I said don't TOUCH them all!!!" I stood there, kind of stunned by this sudden outburst... and he starts going on and on about me spreading viruses all over everything. I didn't even touch the freakin' oranges... but I played along, and calmly asked him if he ate the peels. He ignored my question, but by this time I was a little more agitated, so I got in his face (as unknown to him, he was between my cart and myself) and I repeated, a little louder this time... "Do-You-Eat-The-Peel?" He backed away, but now he was really wound up. He went on and on about "typical Canadians, typical smart Canadians", which was kind of weird, as I have no reason to believe that he wasn't a Canadian himself. He then went back to his virus speech. I commented on his paranoia as I made my way past the freak. Yeah, I know... I should've shot him. It was definitely a weird experience. If people are already cracking up, we're in for a long long spring and summer. maryjane MAR 16, 10:11 PM You do understand Patrick, that the peel of almost all citrus is waxy and similar to a plastic. He doesn't have to eat the peel..just touch it and then touch his face....IF you (or someone else) was infected and left the virus on the peel. But yes, he was over the top.