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| Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 43/146) |
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blackrams
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FEB 26, 11:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MadMark:
The US soldier is problematic, because as you say the soldiers live in very close proximity. So, I would expect more cases. Hopefully, this soldier will recover and not be affected too badly and it won't spread very far. But, you never know.
The case in Solano County is understandably problematic. Not knowing how that person got this disease makes tracking it and isolating it very hard. If I remember correctly the Philippines is only one of two countries that has all known cases resolved. One dead and two recovered out of a total of 3. Vietnam is the only other country with that kind of record. |
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With the "controls" the military has on it's soldiers, I have no doubt this will be isolated in a relatively short time. There is no way the military will not bring to bear all the resources needed to stabilize this particular problem. Solano County is a totally different scenario. A civilian (U.S.) population is not nearly as controllable and definitely doesn't like things like forced quarantines.
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maryjane
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FEB 27, 12:45 AM
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There are 2700 to 3000 soldiers at Camp Carroll right now, and about 2/3 of them are US military personnel, with the rest being S. Koreans and US/Korean civilian contractors.
Going to be difficult to lock Carroll down, considering it is one of the major stocking/storage bases for every kind of rolling stock in that region...tanks, trucks, all mobile weapons for the Taegu area. People from other bases come and go from there every day.
This tonight, from someone (retired US military) that I correspond with about this time every night in Busan S. Korea:
(referring to the infected US soldier in S. Korea)
Donald, that guy is residing off base, and is now in self-quarantine. Not sure if he's living with someone. Anyway, it's reported he visited Camp Walker (wonder if he infected others there) a few days ago from Camp Carroll, and is now back in his off-base housing unit under self-quarantine. So Camp Carroll is under lock-down, and apparently won't let infected troops in. There was another US military dependent-type who died. She was a Korean widower. She was 61, and now has joined her hubby.
Korea is getting slammed by COVID-19 pretty bad.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-27-2020).]
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Patrick
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FEB 27, 12:56 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
How many of them have traveled to the Wuhan region of China in the last few months?
Just because they are Chinese it doesn't mean they've been anywhere to get exposed to Covid-19.
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When there are hundreds of thousands of Chinese living here in the Vancouver area, I'll hazard to guess at least two or three individuals have been to the Wuhan region in the last few months.  I mean, it's beautiful here and all... but people living in this city (Chinese or otherwise) do travel abroad!
I'm curious why Italy appears to be hit so hard. Typhoid Mary Wang make a visit there?
Mark, did you quote me by mistake Here? Your response doesn't seem to relate to what I had stated.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 02-27-2020).]
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maryjane
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FEB 27, 01:33 AM
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| quote | | I'm curious why Italy appears to be hit so hard. Typhoid Mary Wang make a visit there? |
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Open borders on a country that is mostly situated on the warm Mediterranean in mid winter. A European vacation mecca. One person comes from (or back from) China, infected but doesn't know it. Everyone on the commercial air plane is exposed. The taxi ride to his hotel exposes the cab driver that will probably be in close proximity to a 100 people the same day, each going their separate way afterwards. Checks into his hotel, hands the clerk his card with his snot besmeared hand, and that clerk will intermingle with dozens of people the same day. Chinaman goes to eat at a popular tourist filled restaurant and exposes dozens more, then that night out for cocktails or good Italian wine at some nice eatery and spreads it to 1/2 dozen waitstaffthat will interact with dozens more customers before the evening is over and each of the local people Chinaman interacted with in those few hrs go home and interacts with their own families, who next morning, go out and interact with no telling how many other people............. many of those that Chinaman interacted with will get on one of the modern but crowded passenger trains and take off back to their own European home cities....tick tock tick tock...5-7 days go by and there you are...like ChickenMan of the 60s, it's everywhere-it's everywhere!
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maryjane
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FEB 27, 01:42 AM
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Patrick
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FEB 27, 02:11 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
....tick tock tick tock...
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Sounds like a quote from The Expanse.
If you're watching that series, you'll understand. 
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maryjane
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FEB 27, 02:21 AM
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I don't watch much TV shows nowadays.
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Patrick
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FEB 27, 03:16 AM
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In the series I referred to, there's a dead detective that uses that phrase "tick tock tick tock..." whens he's deep in thought. 
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MadMark
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FEB 27, 07:34 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
When there are hundreds of thousands of Chinese living here in the Vancouver area, I'll hazard to guess at least two or three individuals have been to the Wuhan region in the last few months. I mean, it's beautiful here and all... but people living in this city (Chinese or otherwise) do travel abroad!
I'm curious why Italy appears to be hit so hard. Typhoid Mary Wang make a visit there?
Mark, did you quote me by mistake Here? Your response doesn't seem to relate to what I had stated.
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I must have.
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MadMark
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FEB 27, 07:47 AM
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Yep, its going to be hard to contain this virus. Especially in America's open society, where we move around at will and have lots of interaction with others.
But, this flight attendant might be like a Typhoid Mary. One who could have possibly infected hundreds if not thousands of people by themselves because of the number of people who they come into contact with on a daily basis. And then the progression just expands from there. I believe the normal rate of infection so far has been one to three people infected by each original infection. But, this might change that.
One of the reoccurring little comments I have heard in some of the reports from health officials is that they are worried that someone might be able to be infected, but not show symptoms, and then be a carrier and spread this disease to a large number of people. All while not knowing they have it.
Right now one of the key determinants is if you have a temperature. What if you got it and don't have a temperature? How would anyone know if you were infected if you don't show signs of having the disease?
And here is a report out of Japan today on Fox News referring to a patient who had the virus in January and then was "cured" but has it again. That opens up a lot of possibilities.
"Once you have the infection, it could remain dormant and with minimal symptoms, and then you can get an exacerbation if it finds its way into the lungs,” said Philip Tierno Jr., professor of microbiology and pathology at NYU School of Medicine, according to the news organization.
The virus can reportedly spread without symptoms showing up, which forces officials to play catch up and makes it far more difficult to manage.
Health officials analyzed the implications of a patient testing positive after having an initial recovery. Second positive tests have been reported in China."
Also, this: “I’m not certain that this is not bi-phasic, like anthrax,” Tierno Jr. said in regards to the disease being able to go away before reappearing."
https://www.foxnews.com/hea...first-in-the-country
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