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Hudini...from your unique perspective, thoughts on the new Chinese corona virus (Page 36/146) |
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 21, 12:40 PM
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maryjane
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FEB 21, 01:05 PM
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The new Canadian case is a presumptive one for now. She has not had the lab test results back ..yet.
The coronavirus cases in Lake Charles La that I linked to in an earlier post turned out to be not coronavirus, but a pretty common norovirus. One of the gambling places where they were originally reported to have started is a cruise ship that spends most of it's time docked at Lake Charles and the other is the land based L'Auberge Casino Resort .
The new cases in Iran should come as no surprise. China is pretty much Iran's last trading partner in everything from China buying their petroleum products to selling them their Chinese military arms. Some call the islamic sino relationship ChiRan.

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MadMark
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FEB 21, 03:06 PM
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South Korea is now in the headlights for this virus. The number of people with the disease has quadrupled in a couple of days. In the tight confines of Daegu it could spread quickly and be hard to contain. Apparently a woman came down with the virus, but had attended her large church twice during the time she could have been contagious.
https://www.foxnews.com/hea...rea-outbreak-spreads[This message has been edited by MadMark (edited 02-21-2020).]
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maryjane
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FEB 21, 03:13 PM
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That particular church is known as a minor cult in S. Korea...very secretive and closed off from much of society's eyes. Many of the members won't wear the masks. One of it's members is thought to be responsible for dozens of infections transmitted to other people...began to be symptomatic on Jan 31 thus the moniker "Patient 31".
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maryjane
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FEB 21, 03:44 PM
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quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
That particular church is known as a minor cult in S. Korea...very secretive and closed off from much of society's eyes. Many of the members won't wear the masks. One of it's members is thought to be responsible for dozens of infections transmitted to other people...began to be symptomatic on Jan 31 thus the moniker "Patient 31". |
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BTW, years ago, when I was in S. Korea, Daegu was called and spelled Taegu. Romanization changed the spelling. (D & T are interchangeable in Korean but they had to officially pick one or the other once computers and binary began to surface.) Inchon, became Incheon too. Kimpo, site of a major battle during the Korean War, and the base most of the USAF Sabre Jets were based , became Gimpo (actually Gimpo-si which means Gimpo City)
trivia alert over[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-21-2020).]
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MadMark
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FEB 21, 04:30 PM
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quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
That particular church is known as a minor cult in S. Korea...very secretive and closed off from much of society's eyes. Many of the members won't wear the masks. One of it's members is thought to be responsible for dozens of infections transmitted to other people...began to be symptomatic on Jan 31 thus the moniker "Patient 31". |
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It might be considered a minor cult in Korea, but there are at least 1000 members in the one church in where the infections are coming from.
I don't know how effective the masks would be, but it can be surmised that it does offer some protection. So not using the masks would be a problem. I also just read that the virus has hit the prison systems in China. The way people are packed into prisons, it would be a breeding ground for the virus.
I have business relations with South Korea, so this might just affect me and my business. I didn't expect that.
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maryjane
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FEB 21, 06:48 PM
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quote | Originally posted by MadMark:
It might be considered a minor cult in Korea, but there are at least 1000 members in the one church in where the infections are coming from.
I don't know how effective the masks would be, but it can be surmised that it does offer some protection. So not using the masks would be a problem. I also just read that the virus has hit the prison systems in China. The way people are packed into prisons, it would be a breeding ground for the virus.
I have business relations with South Korea, so this might just affect me and my business. I didn't expect that. |
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1000 member in that one church in a city of nearly 3 million is not surprising or even very impressive.There is a preacher Joel Olsteen, in Houston Tx (population 2.3 million) with a non-denominational church that is filled each week to capacity of 17,000 members and total # that 'attend' either in person, on-line, or via TV is 52,000.
It would take 3000 more churches, each with that 1000 person membership, in Daegu to 'use' the city's entire population. Daegu is not a small city by any means, and is very modern...like most of S. Korea is.

I am participating in a similar discussion on a military board with several of the members living in S. Korea (American expats) . They are concerned, but not panicked and say the govt has clamped down on lots of public activities, but so far, business and manufacturing goes on about normal. No movement back and forth between S. Korea and N. Kporea is allowed, and there is very very limited movement between S. Korea and China. The bottleneck in any S. Korea production, is going to be because of a shortage of parts from Chinese supply chain to S. Korea.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-21-2020).]
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MadMark
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FEB 22, 09:54 AM
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South Korea's number of cases doubled again last night. This is bad news. That is the very definition of an exponential increase if it keeps going. Along with that the number of total cases is creeping up again. It was as low as about 489 new cases world wide on Thursday with most being in China. That was the day they changed the way they count the cases. But today's number shows it going up 1100 new cases. Surely the new cases in South Korea are a part of that increase but don't come anywhere near that increase day to day. However if the new cases in South Korea keep expanding exponentially, they very well could take the lead on new cases in a just a couple of days.
So far even though there were cases of transmission that occurred in countries other than China, it was pretty tightly controlled. I would need to add here that there was one exception of a particular case with the cruise ship in Japan, which looks like it was more of a Petri dish than a quarantine. Now though South Korea looks like it has inadvertently allowed the virus to break quarantine. I just hope that they can get it under control.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51596665
Edited to include a link to the report.[This message has been edited by MadMark (edited 02-22-2020).]
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 22, 02:51 PM
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maryjane
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FEB 22, 09:57 PM
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As usual, that article is pure feces. That "offgrid' suvivalist' bunch of conspiracy nut jobs linked to the WP article but conveniently left out what the WP story actually said. I don't know which is worse...the people that write this garbage or the gullible lamebrains that read it and pass it off as fact when it's so clearly a baldfaced lie.
https://www.washingtonpost....abac6674f_story.html
quote | But Robert Kadlec, assistant secretary for preparedness and response for the Department of Health and Human Services and a member of the coronavirus task force, pushed back: Officials had already prepared the plane to handle passengers who might develop symptoms on the long flight, he argued. The two Boeing 747s had 18 seats cordoned off with 10-foot-high plastic on all four sides. Infectious disease doctors would also be onboard. |
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The gullibility of a certain demographic of morons never ceases to amaze me...[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-22-2020).]
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