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The first 2020 'official' election prediction thread..... by maryjane
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Originally posted by Hudini:


Why are my generalizations unfortunate?

Of the people I know who hate Trump it's all about his word usage. I do think he is his own worst enemy in that regard. He never acted Presidential and that upset many folks. I do agree with most of his policies though. If only he could have left Twitter alone and not attacked everyone who attacked him. Let the policies do the talking and stop bragging. Oh well. He accomplished more than you and I ever could.


You always knew what he was about. He may have had skeletons in his closet but he damn sure liked to talk about them.
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Is that three, or just two strikes against?


It's irrelevant. One is all it take to count him out. You're not willing to expose your position are you? Why?
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

You always knew what he was about. He may have had skeletons in his closet but he damn sure liked to talk about them.


Oh, I dunno. Trump was uncharacteristically tight-lipped about his buddy, Jeffrey.


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Prior to being exposed and convicted of being a child molester. At that point he was just a rich man digging the ladies and wasn't known as a spy getting dirt on important rfgures for future use.

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Originally posted by sourmash:

...just a rich man digging the ladies


Yep, just a couple of rich men digging the ladies...

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The question I asked you?
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Well, that says you probably don't want to admit any leftist views.

The original Constitution includes the Bill of Rights. That's the centerist starting point. Supporting it makes you a centerist. If you don't support it in full, you are left of center.
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Well, that says you probably don't want to admit any leftist views.


Jump to conclusions much?

I'm not familiar enough with the US Constitution to comment on who I believe fully supports or doesn't fully support it. Geez man, give it a rest.

I have some "leftist views". I have some right-wing views. My opinions vary depending on the topic. Makes it difficult to attach a label, eh? So sue me! lol
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Wow. Defensive, much?!

 
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Jump to conclusions much?


No. It was formed over multiples of posts from your evasiveness. And I even asked if you are familiar with the topic and still you ignored and ignored while addressing and introducing other deflections.

You won't answer if you support the first 10. I have an uber liberal friend who won't allow anyone to ask him questions and most of us know it's because he knows he doesn't really have the foundation for his beliefs, which are easy to disprove. He just wants free stuff. He really doesn't like admitting his position.
 
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I have some "leftist views". I have some right-wing views. My opinions vary depending on the topic. Makes it difficult to attach a label, eh? So sue me! lol


Yeah, the majority do and the first 10 are in some ways more liberal than our current code allows. My socialist liberal friend likes smokage, excessive drinkage, govt subsidies. It wouldn't bother me if he was allowed to grow what he smokes. He doesn't care that I don't smoke.
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Originally posted by sourmash:

You won't answer if you support the first 10.


I don't know the first 10.

Shall I start badgering you about the The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms as well?

I'm not sure why you're so desperately trying to direct this conversation. Give it up.
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Disbelief in the integrity of the presidential election outcome was etched, as if by a sculptor, on the face of South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham as he presided over the Senate Judiciary Committee on November 17. Photo credit: Chip Somodevilla for AFP.


A depiction of the Roman goddess Veritas, associated with the concept of truth. Veritas was a Romanization of the classical Greek deity Aletheia.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Oh, I dunno. Trump was uncharacteristically tight-lipped about his buddy, Jeffrey.



So do you think he had him killed?
I would like to know what you think. (cant believe I just typed that)
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Interesting how famous people tend to take pictures with other famous people.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

I don't know the first 10.

Shall I start badgering you about the The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms as well?

I'm not sure why you're so desperately trying to direct this conversation. Give it up.


It wouldn't surprise me if you did and it wouldn't compare to my approach. I'm polite enough to answer the question when asked by someone I'm engaging with and not dodge as though I don't want to be exposed. You complained about being called leftist here. I still don't know your stance on key American freedoms.

So why are you still complaining about the topic while asking me questions about it? Isn't that insane? I accepted your answer which is that you don't have the practical knowledge to judge our President based from a Constitutional standing.

You stated that it's because Trump is a pig, but nothing of his politics. Donald was always a Democrat which is why he was invited to Hilary 's private family functions and why he was frequently with other Dem donors like Epstein.
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Interesting how famous people tend to take pictures with other famous people.


They were all just Democrats at that time. I have to remind my TDS family members that Donald was a Democrat and Dem donor most of his adult life.
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Interesting how famous people tend to take pictures with other famous people.


Oh for sure, yeah yeah, that's all it was. Just a picture or two of Donald and Jeffrey together after randomly bumping into each other at a party. Right. Now for some facts.

From Here.

 
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For the better part of two decades starting in the late 1980s, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump swam in the same social pool. They were neighbors in Florida. They jetted from LaGuardia to Palm Beach together. They partied at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and dined at Epstein’s Manhattan mansion.

<Read the rest at the link.>





Trump and Epstein go back a long way.

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So do you think he had him killed?


No.

I suspect the cretin was given the opportunity to off himself.

Did someone perhaps suggest he do so? We'll never know.
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Originally posted by sourmash:

I still don't know your stance on key American freedoms.

Isn't that insane?



What's truly "insane" is your persistent badgering. Is this the Sourmash Inquisition brought back 542 years later?

If you want to know my stance on anything I've discussed, you've got 20 years worth of my posts here to dig through. I don't go out of my way to hide or lie about my beliefs, but I'm sure as hell not going to be interrogated by some random guy on a car forum.
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Trump and Epstein go back a long way.


Guilt by association. Cool.

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You don't know how to get over yourself do you, Pat? Much like Trump, you think you have to keep going to get the last word. Guess what? I'm not asking you so stop flattering yourself at someone else's expense.
I quit wondering when I posted last night about what a centrist truly is, which triggered you to hiss some insults.

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Originally posted by Hudini:

Guilt by association. Cool.


You've obviously chosen to ignore the history (not just a photo or two together) that Trump and Epstein have shared. Fine.

I also think it's pretty funny that you think I give a hoot about Bill Clinton.
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You've obviously chosen to ignore the history (not just a photo or two together) that Trump and Epstein have shared. Fine.

I also think it's pretty funny that you think I give a hoot about Bill Clinton.


History, huh? Because they're all Democrats, historically.
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Ok guys and gals, put on your best and brightest tin foil hat. This was sent to me by a friend who very much believes the QAnon source.

Situation Update – Nov. 27th – DoD vs. CIA firefight in Frankfurt as covert war against the deep state RAGES across the globe

https://www.naturalnews.com...cia-covert-war.html#

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You don't know how to get over yourself do you, Pat? Much like Trump, you think you have to keep going to get the last word. Guess what? I'm not asking you so stop flattering yourself at someone else's expense.
I quit wondering when I posted last night about what a centrist truly is, which triggered you to hiss some insults.



Project much?

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No, insight was given as a gift from God to me.
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Guilt by association. Cool.





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Ok guys and gals, put on your best and brightest tin foil hat.

Situation Update – Nov. 27th – DoD vs. CIA firefight in Frankfurt as covert war against the deep state RAGES across the globe

"Sidney Powell is about to roll out expert witnesses in the Georgia and Michigan lawsuits."



I thought Sidney Powell was out of the picture. I might need more tin foil.
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She's acting on her own. Try again later.
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No, insight was given as a gift from God to me.


It's all starting to make sense now. I think we're done here. Thanks for the discussion.
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You've obviously chosen to ignore the history (not just a photo or two together) that Trump and Epstein have shared. Fine.

I also think it's pretty funny that you think I give a hoot about Bill Clinton.


I never said you give a hoot about Clinton. I am just using your logic to convict him of guilt by association.

Also, "Trump barred Jeffrey Epstein from Mar-a-Lago over sex assault: court docs "

https://nypost.com/2019/07/...-assault-court-docs/

So yeah, there's that
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It's all starting to make sense now. I think we're done here. Thanks for the discussion.


There was no discussion. It was a guy afraid to respond to a question. The question answer was over last night. Thank God you're catching up though.
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Also, Epstein did not have a portrait of Donald Trump in a dress hanging in his home on his private island.

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I am just using your logic to convict him of guilt by association.


Guilt of doing what? I might question Trump's wisdom in choosing to party with cretins such as Epstein, but I've never suggested that Trump himself was banging underage girls.
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Epstein was a guest at Trump's hotel. Trump was a conscientious host and businessman. We have been over this before.
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Ok guys and gals, put on your best and brightest tin foil hat. This was sent to me by a friend who very much believes the QAnon source.

Situation Update – Nov. 27th – DoD vs. CIA firefight in Frankfurt as covert war against the deep state RAGES across the globe

https://www.naturalnews.com...cia-covert-war.html#


It's 2020...I wouldn't be at all surprised at this point......
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Epstein was a guest at Trump's hotel. Trump was a conscientious host and businessman. We have been over this before.


With all due respect Willie, Epstein was far more than simply "a guest at Trump's hotel".

We can agree to disagree. Going over and over this doesn't change the facts.
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Guilt of doing what? I might question Trump's wisdom in choosing to party with cretins such as Epstein, but I've never suggested that Trump himself was banging underage girls.


Oh yes you did. You wrote they were "buds" which implies Trump knew and approved of Epstein and that Epstein was engaging in the illegal behavior at that time.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

With all due respect Willie, Epstein was far more than simply "a guest at Trump's hotel".

We can agree to disagree. Going over and over this doesn't change the facts.

Yeah, I have been neighbors with Sonny Barger and Louis Farrakhan, and we all flew out of Sky Harbor. So what?

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Oh yes you did. You wrote they were "buds" which implies Trump knew and approved of Epstein and that Epstein was engaging in the illegal behavior at that time.


Is that how being "buds" works?

I don't know what Trump was or wasn't aware of... and neither do you.
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