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The first 2020 'official' election prediction thread..... by maryjane
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Originally posted by williegoat:

I hope everyone is listening to the press conference. Sydney Powell is absolutely right. This is big.

https://www.c-span.org/vide...nce-legal-challenges





Surprise surprise, It finally hit a main "news" network.

Now that tons Americans apparently already think its a done deal and there is no evidence of fraud though, its going to take some uncorrupt media to talk about and report this legitimately.


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Originally posted by 2.5:


Surprise surprise, It finally hit a main "news" network.

Now that tons Americans apparently already think its a done deal and there is no evidence of fraud though, its going to take some uncorrupt media to talk about and report this legitimately.




Good luck with that.
This is in my news feed as 4 hours old
https://www.theguardian.com...mp-to-win-presidency

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Here is a short version of part of it, (on top of the traditional types of fraud that there is evidence of) easier to share.


link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREHZrawXa8

The long version again on CSPAN:
https://www.c-span.org/vide...tates-plans-lawsuits

The long version vid on youtube:

link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTEkcV6gKXQ

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Youtube feels the need to put a warning on all videos dealing with the election.

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Here's another part of the problem. Rudy's statement at the 1:25:40 minute mark, they have to act as private citizens without subpoena power, if they were the governent there would be people arrested by now.

referring to the vid at this link
https://www.c-span.org/vide...tates-plans-lawsuits

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Originally posted by LitebulbwithaFiero:

Youtube feels the need to put a warning on all videos dealing with the election.


This ties into the 'Silencing Dissent' thread, about Big Tech engaging in social engineering.

In related news, the New York Times is now trying to convince people the election is over, and Trump is trying to overturn it. They even go so far as to say it's "unparalleled in US history".

https://www.nytimes.com/202.../trump-election.html

It's basically a propaganda piece.

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Some data analysts are contacting voters themselves, to see if there are any discrepancies. Spoiler alert: there are.

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Either there are a whole bunch of people lying to us or there are a whole bunch of people lying to us, it's got to be one or the other. There is no other answer.

Let's see....should I believe the people that brought us Hillary Clinton, Adam Schiff, LBJ and Jimmy Carter; or should I believe the people who brought us Trey Gowdy, Rand Paul, Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan

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Jade Helm


All military ops have a covert part to them, for instance, the Army Rangers and Seal teams secretly went into Iraq even before the air war began.
The 1st 'shots' of Jade Helm were fired in Texas on April 20 2015, and not on July 15, 2015 as was reported by the leftist news.

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Originally posted by Blacktree:

Some data analysts are contacting voters themselves, to see if there are any discrepancies. Spoiler alert: there are.



They should show all of this “evidence of illegal activity” in their many lawsuits that keep getting tossed for lack of evidence.
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At this point in time, patience and faith in the legal system is paramount.

The media does not elect the President.
Although they sure act like they do......
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The media does not elect the President.
Although they sure act like they do......


I keep hearing this parroted, like the media is doing anything other than their exact job.

The media is not saying "Biden has been elected by the electoral college, the process is done," but they are saying "the result of the election is clear." When they call a state, they are not saying "this elector has cast a vote," they're saying "the outcome of the election in this state is clear enough for us to put our name out there and call it."

Electors in many states have laws governing their actions. We have known the outcome of the election since November 6/7. Biden won the election. No, he has not yet officially been elected by the electoral college. At this point, though, it's just a waiting game. It is as clear today as it was when Trump was elected and Hillary conceded.

Trump's team filed a ton of lawsuits. They keep getting tossed out for a myriad of reasons, and none of them are going to have any impact on the final result. If any of you think Biden has not won, then I'm willing to put down as much money as you'd like that he will win.
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There are reasons for the lawsuits, one of them being the constitutional responsibility of the President to ensure a legal election.

Many people in this country feel doubt about the integrity of this particular election.

My interest is to have more clarity as to the circumstances.

For that to happen, patience is in order.

Our country thrives when we are optimistic, we do no need doubt as to the integrity of the election process hanging over our nation.

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

My interest is to have more clarity as to the circumstances.


Would you have been as concerned about the "circumstances" if the roles were reversed, and it appeared that Trump had won?
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Originally posted by Patrick:

Would you have been as concerned about the "circumstances" if the roles were reversed, and it appeared that Trump had won?


Do you think there would have been no drama if it had gone the other way?
Yes I would be just as concerned. There is no win here, there will always be doubt but this election has issues we have never had to deal with before.
Either way this is not going to be good for our country.
But for the last 4 years the media and parts of our own government have done nothing except try to remove a lawful elected president.
That is why it is best left to the courts, this is just the first round as the cases are appealed to a higher court.

Either way the next 4 years are going to be rough, I see the divide growing larger as those that seek to leverage that divide are getting bolder.
Hold on to your ass the next 4 years is going to be bumpy.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Do you think there would have been no drama if it had gone the other way?


No, but that doesn't pertain to my question.

 
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Yes I would be just as concerned.


I suspect either you're a liar ... or you aren't as politically right-wing as most members appear to be in O/T.
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I suspect either you're a liar ... or you aren't as politically right-wing as most members appear to be in O/T.


Well I think you can be a bull headed ass sometimes that likes to stir up trouble but that's just me.
I am more of a knuckle dragger and we tend to not have wings either right or left.
Does it matter what way you look if all you see is **** ?
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Would you have been as concerned about the "circumstances" if the roles were reversed, and it appeared that Trump had won?


Oh hell yes, and I find your insinuation otherwise offensive

Our system works on trust in the system.
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I find your insinuation otherwise offensive.


Don't feel picked on. It applies to about 80% of O/T's regular contributors.

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Apparently Sidney Powell is no longer with the Trump legal team. She was gullible enough to have fallen for the QAnon type disinformation. Her wild claims are the reason why several lawsuits have been thrown out.

I believe voter fraud did occur, however it was not this massive widespread craziness that got Ms. Powell fired. It was simple, targeted fraud in counties where one could get the benefit of the doubt. Wayne County, Michigan. Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania. Fulton County, Georgia. Trump was leading all night as the counts were coming in until election officials called off the count late at night. Once it became clear just how many votes were needed for the win then all these mail-in ballots arrived via cargo van in the middle of the night and counting restarted.

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And Trump will not win with the recount either.

The fraud is easy to detect because the signatures on file will not match the mail-in ballot. How do you get around that? You tell the election worker to accept the ballot as is and you push the poll watchers back far enough that they cannot see the signature. Now when the inevitable recount comes you start with a pile of mail-in ballots with "already verified signatures". The recount simply counts the fraudulent ballots once again and nothing changes.


Georgia: 6.5% rejections in 2016 to a mere 0.2%, more than 30 times lower.
Pennsylvania: 1% in 2016 to 0.03% this year.
Nevada: 1.6% in 2016 to around 0.75% this year.
Michigan: 0.5% in 2016 to 0.1% this year.
North Carolina: 2.7% in 2016 to 0.8% this year.

The race was decided by razor thin margins. You don't need "widespread fraud" as the MSM characterizes it. You only need very specific fraud in a few places.

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Originally posted by williegoat:

I have heard several interviews with Sydney Powell on this subject over the last few days and she says evidence is pouring in "like a fire hose". From what I know about her, I would not want to argue against her. She is pretty solid.

I am counting on her.



 
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Apparently Sidney Powell is no longer with the Trump legal team. She was gullible enough to have fallen for the QAnon type disinformation. Her wild claims are the reason why several lawsuits have been thrown out.


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And your reaction is exactly why she was fired. Once she made the wild claims then ALL of the arguments could be discounted, even the valid ones.
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This thread is now reeking of desperation.
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So...My question is....why has President Trump never sent troops down to Texas to release the 28 million Texans from the ONE Walmart that they were confined to during the Jade Helm......"ATTACK"...?

Also, how did any Texans vote from that Walmart?
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This thread is now reeking of desperation.


Reeking is a good descriptor. It's not a valid argument, but it sounds really awful. So the ideas presented must be awful because it reeks of desperation.
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So the ideas presented must be awful because it reeks of desperation.


If you wish to put a spin to my words, how about this then...

"So the ideas presented must be awful because" they would never have been presented if Trump had won the election.
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Originally posted by cvxjet:

So...My question is....why has President Trump never sent troops down to Texas to release the 28 million Texans from the ONE Walmart that they were confined to during the Jade Helm......"ATTACK"...?

Also, how did any Texans vote from that Walmart?

1. Trump was not president during jade helm. It ended Sept 15 2015.
2. My comment regarding the '1st shot was fired on April 20 2015 was tongue-in-cheek.
That's the date Blue Bell Ice Cream recalled all products nationwide and shut down production. One of the rumors at the time was that Obama had ordered the FDA to make it so, in preparation for Jade Helm.
https://www.armytimes.com/n...conspiracy-theories/

https://www.texasmonthly.co...-woes-and-jade-helm/


I don't know anything about a Walmart imprisonment.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Don't feel picked on. It applies to about 80% of O/T's regular contributors.


Picked on, by you?

That's a good one.

I consider the source....
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This thread is now reeking of desperation.


What are you desperate about?
You've already got a dumbass for a prime minister.

Edited for punctuation, not content.

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You've already got a dumbass for a prime minister.


Compared to the utter embarrassment you've had as a president the last four years, Trudeau's looked pretty damn good. lol
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Originally posted by Patrick:

If you wish to put a spin to my words, how about this then...

"So the ideas presented must be awful because" they would never have been presented if Trump had won the election.


You are correct in that they never would have been presented because the fraudulent effort would have failed. You see the mail-in ballots went 97% Biden, not Trump. 97% to one candidate is statistically impossible.
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"Pennsylvania, Michigan and Arizona Legislatures Will Hold Hearings on Election Fraud"

https://www.lifenews.com/20...s-on-election-fraud/
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Compared to the utter embarrassment you've had as a president the last four years, Trudeau's looked pretty damn good. lol


We will have to disagree about the current POTUS.

However, the media's presumptive President-elect will certainly out-dimwit your dimwit, whether he is confirmed or not.
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Originally posted by Hudini:

"Pennsylvania, Michigan and Arizona Legislatures Will Hold Hearings on Election Fraud"

https://www.lifenews.com/20...s-on-election-fraud/


And the political party affiliation of each body will determine the outcome of the decision.

We're supposed to believe that a man lost while setting a record for votes cast, and was beat by a man who could only get staffers to come to his press rallies.

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Report this Post11-25-2020 09:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashClick Here to Email sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I don't think there's a major news outlet that's worth watching/reading/listening to. The independent media has some decent content, but it's not package for easy delivery. Republic Broadcasting and Rense Radio Network have some shows worthy of evaluating. They also have some irritating and/or ridiculous shows.
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