Not that they aren't trying mightily, but fortunately for this country, the media does not determine election winners.
The ignorance of many people to that fact is evident in the number of fools gathering in the streets to celebrate today.
Nobody thinks the media decides the winner.
Some people think the media calling states means something more than it does. That’s why we saw so many Trump supporters (including Guilliani) upset at when certain states were called.
But everyone knows what’s going to happen now, it’s just a matter of if you will accept it or not. Considering how Obama was treated on this forum, I doubt you’ll ever accept it, but that’s on you, not the media.
I am all for addressing that vote counting machine "glitch" and following it to the end. I would like to believe that it will be thoroughly analyzed in such a way as to eliminate all but the most infinitesimal possibility that Biden's as yet unofficial Electoral College majority is an artifact of vote counting machine malfunctions or misguided or unexpected operator interfacing with the machines.
I would like to think that it can and will be eliminated as a credible possibility, and preferably in very short order.
I would like . . .
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None of the anomalies are going Trump's way, I suppose? They all went the other direction? Sounds legit. Every county in the swing states needs a look for any similar possibilities.
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Trump's total deficit in all four states combined is 85,768 votes. That is smaller than his margin of victory in any single state. Every state that he won was won by well over 100,000 votes except Montana which was 98,000 plus for Trump. But of course there are more people in Phoenix than in the entire state of Montana.
Now remember that a "computer glitch" in one county in Michigan took 6,000 Trump votes and gave them to Biden. That is 65% of Trump's deficit in Georgia or 33% of his deficit in Arizona, and 7% of his deficit in all four above mentioned states combined. From one county, in one state.
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Beyond that you don't have a single clue what I will accept or won't and if you think you can come up with a single quote from me anywhere on this forum where I've even hinted anything about the legitimacy of Obama's presidency then SHOW IT
or else STFU and stop LYING about it.
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a) Biden will win the election. b) O/T will be awash with excuses. c) Trump will eventually be looked back upon by Democrat and Republican alike as an abject failure of a President.
unable to take effective action; helpless or powerless.
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Speaking of impotent;
China Joe MIGHT make it to the White House but the Republican Senate, headed by reelected Senator McConnell, "holds the car keys" so the best the dotard Biden will be able to do is just sit behind the Resolute desk and make "vroom vroom" noises and try to remember who he is and where he is.
There WON'T be any "Supreme Court packing" or any filibuster breaking, or ending fracking and gas & oil production or higher corporate taxes or any expanded Obama care or "Green New Deal" or any other dumb-sh*t socialist legislation.
230 brand new Trump appointed Article III federal judges, 53 US Court of Appeals judges, 2 US Court of International Trade judges and THREE new Trump SCOTUS Associate Justices will help keep Ol' China Joe from issuing moronic EO's and ramming through new, illegal, regulatory hand cuffs on businesses.
OH. and the, reelected Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican led, Senate Judiciary Committee can STILL see to it that Hunter Biden ends up wearing an orange jumpsuit and maybe his daddy too.
PLUS General Michael Flynn will get the preemptory Presidential pardon that he rightly deserves which will be followed by his filing of a nice big multi-million dollar civil suit which he will absolutely win.
FUN TIMES ahead.
Just so we're clear, China Joe is NOT president yet. He's not even the "president elect" yet, You and lot of other larval Marxists obviously don't understand our electoral system. I would also be remiss in not reminding you and every other Leftist chuckle-monkey celebrating right now that President George W. Bush won his 2000 election after 36 days of litigation past election day.
We're now on day 5 with this one...and SCOTUS Justice, Alito, has already ruled in favor of the Trump campaign in the PA. ballot sequester and count.
MI, AZ, NV and WI are also on for litigation as well.
I'm content to wait.
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As of this morning, there are just over 108,000 ballots left to count in Arizona. Each additional count has yielded 59% Trump to 41% Biden. We should get more data in about 41/2 hours. If the trend continues, Arizona will flip back to Trump.
I find it interesting that Trump had a comfortable lead in Arizona, then data stopped coming in. When data resumed a few hours later, the "news media" called us for Biden even though there were only about 60% of the precincts reporting. Since then, every additional count has brought Trump closer and closer.
So, when data is reported, Trump leads. When no data was reported, Biden suddenly jumped ahead, and by just enough to overcome the trend.
Appropriately, the Maricopa county recorder, Adrian Fontes is losing his reelection bid.
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As of this morning, there are just over 108,000 ballots left to count in Arizona. Each additional count has yielded 59% Trump to 41% Biden. We should get more data in about 41/2 hours. If the trend continues, Arizona will flip back to Trump.
I find it interesting that Trump had a comfortable lead in Arizona, then data stopped coming in. When data resumed a few hours later, the "news media" called us for Biden even though there were only about 60% of the precincts reporting. Since then, every additional count has brought Trump closer and closer.
So, when data is reported, Trump leads. When no data was reported, Biden suddenly jumped ahead, and by just enough to overcome the trend.
Appropriately, the Maricopa county recorder, Adrian Fontes is losing his reelection bid.
It took the election of Ron DeSantis (R) as our Florida Governor and his subsequent firing of the Broward county elections supervisor, Demorat, Brenda Snipes, and the forced resignation of the Leftist, Palm Beach county elections supervisor and PRESTO!
No more dozens of boxes of ballots mysteriously moving from unmarked vans into the trunks of cars in the middle of the night and blockaded, secret, ballot counting like 2018.
No more "hanging chads" and thousands of mutilated beyond recognition Republican ballots like 2000
NOBODY, not even the Demorats, are complaining about the integrity of the Florida ballot results this year.
Florida also had our elections results in ON ELECTION NIGHT and we are the 3rd most populous state in the US.
It's amazing how smoothly, transparently and honestly elections go when you remove Leftists from controlling the process.
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Originally posted by williegoat: So, when data is reported, Trump leads. When no data was reported, Biden suddenly jumped ahead, and by just enough to overcome the trend.
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories. But I wonder if certain people are hoping Trump will get discouraged and concede before all the results are tallied. I also wonder if there's a conscious effort to make Americans lose trust in the electoral system.
I know it sounds like tin-foil-hat stuff. But lately, the leftists have been desperate to regain control of the government.
It took the election of Ron DeSantis (R) as our Florida Governor and his subsequent firing of the Broward county elections supervisor, Demorat, Brenda Snipes, and the forced resignation of the Leftist, Palm Beach county elections supervisor and PRESTO!
No more dozens of boxes of ballots mysteriously moving from unmarked vans into the trunks of cars in the middle of the night and blockaded, secret, ballot counting like 2018.
No more "hanging chads" and thousands of mutilated beyond recognition Republican ballots like 2000
NOBODY, not even the Demorats, are complaining about the integrity of the Florida ballot results this year.
Florida also had our elections results in ON ELECTION NIGHT and we are the 3rd most populous state in the US.
It's amazing how smoothly, transparently and honestly elections go when you remove Leftists from controlling the process.
Exactly. It's not a "swing state" problem. It's a cheating problem where they are waiting until the Republican areas turn in their numbers, then rush to make up the votes they need.
There is no solution now that I see without bloodshed. This should have been the first thing ANY Republicans focused on, but the GOP doesn't care because they make more money being the underdog. Losing elections gets them rich.
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories. But I wonder if certain people are hoping Trump will get discouraged and concede before all the results are tallied. I also wonder if there's a conscious effort to make Americans lose trust in the electoral system.
I know it sounds like tin-foil-hat stuff. But lately, the leftists have been desperate to regain control of the government.
WHO is telling us that Dementia Joe has won?
Reminder: He's not legally the *president elect* yet.
"The truth always eventually comes out and it is NEVER what the Leftist media originally told you.".....randye
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Exactly. It's not a "swing state" problem. It's a cheating problem where they are waiting until the Republican areas turn in their numbers, then rush to make up the votes they need.
There is no solution now that I see without bloodshed. This should have been the first thing ANY Republicans focused on, but the GOP doesn't care because they make more money being the underdog. Losing elections gets them rich.
19 of the past 29 presidents since Lincoln (16th president), have been Republicans so I can't agree with your "losing elections to get rich" idea.
The Republicans, (Trump Campaign), DID focus on the Leftist ballot shenanigans prior to Nov. 3 but they were unsuccessful, chiefly due to legal "prior restraint" issues and because nothing nefarious had happened....yet. So it wasn't for lack of trying.
That's different now and the Trump campaign has already secured an important win from the US Supreme Court with Justice Alito's ruling on PA. ballots.
That win likely sets precedent that will apply to other contested states now.
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funny how some think the election is over but it is not as all the votes have not even come in as the military's vote in GA has not come in yet and the media has a projected winner it is not a official winner as recounts could change who won not that they will so it is not over until it is certified .
Well, it appears that Trump has tightened the gap by another 2,000 votes and is now 0.5% behind in Arizona.
I can't find any numbers about how many ballots remain to be counted, but one site said that today's numbers include an additional 8,000 ballots. That would align with the trend, so far.
If the current trend continues, Trump will flip AZ back.
No provisional ballots are in any of the numbers yet.
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I am all for addressing that vote counting machine "glitch" and following it to the end. I would like to believe that it will be thoroughly analyzed in such a way as to eliminate all but the most infinitesimal possibility that Biden's as yet unofficial Electoral College majority is an artifact of vote counting machine malfunctions or misguided or unexpected operator interfacing with the machines.
I would like to think that it can and will be eliminated as a credible possibility, and preferably in very short order.
I would like . . .
Agreed... I think we know the outcome... it will have been a very slim margin that allowed Biden to win, but I think in many of the states he did win... there's enough probable cause to suspect voter fraud. It wouldn't be the first time, and it certainly won't be the last.
In the end, the Democrats effectively pulled out all the stops, and had the weight of the entire media on them. Most people are dumb, and couldn't tell you the difference between Trump or Biden just that one is bad and one is good. Most people don't look at policies like you and I do... and contrive our viewpoints based on them.
But we have to honor the legal challenges as we have for Democrats in the past. The outcome is likely already understood... but unless we go through with this, there will always be a lingering doubt.
Exactly. It's not a "swing state" problem. It's a cheating problem where they are waiting until the Republican areas turn in their numbers, then rush to make up the votes they need.
There is no solution now that I see without bloodshed. This should have been the first thing ANY Republicans focused on, but the GOP doesn't care because they make more money being the underdog. Losing elections gets them rich.
I should not afford myself another online research project--at this moment, more than ever--so this as much or more questioning than answering.
How many of these closely contested or "swing" states that are still counting the votes had Republican-majority state legislatures, prior to this election?
Pennsylvania, for sure.
Georgia? I would be surprised if it were otherwise.
The voting rules and procedures are mostly organic to each separate state. Of course, that does not run counter to Fat's thinking here. But it's an important observation.
Early on, President Trump set up a national Voting Integrity commission (probably had some other formal designation than "Voting Integrity") chaired by Kris Kobach, but it wasn't received with widespread enthusiasm at the state level. Even from states that had Republican Party-affiliated state level Secretaries of State, which is commonly the state level office that is directly responsible for that state's elections. "You're trespassing on state level responsibilities and asking for information from our state and about the voters in our state that the federal government has no proper right to ask for." (In so many words.)
Conspiracies or schemes that involve more than one state? Lots of "moving parts." Lots of people that would (seem) to have to had had knowledge of it or a hand in it. Kind of a large "object" to successfully conceal from prying eyes.
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Give your head a shake.
