If, you knew that a terrorist was from your home town and the price for his terrorism was the destruction of the town unannounced, there might just be more folks reporting terrorist suspects. I'll admit, I'm still looking for a better way but, the fact stands that it is impossible to stop a dedicated person from killing/dying for his/her beliefs. So, is it worth it to take all your family and friends with you? Only the terrorist can make that decision.
Cool, are you going to use the same tactic for the homegrown terrorists as well, gonna be interesting when you advocate wiping out a American town to punish a terrorists fellow citizens because they missed the warning signs.
I see so we should kill innocent people so that Muslims realize that we mean business! Wow that makes such great sense. Muslims have no skin in the game???? Honestly, go do some reading to see who the main victims of Islamic terror groups are.
IF, if one, two or more of the victims of this terrorism was from your family or circle of friends, you might see this differently on why innocents are being slaughtered. I honestly don't like the idea of killing innocent people but, show me a better way to stop terrorism, I'm very willing to look at it. Oh, and don't even think of offering up one of Obama's ideas. They have already been shown to be a failure.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
Originally posted by newf: Cool, are you going to use the same tactic for the homegrown terrorists as well, gonna be interesting when you advocate wiping out a American town to punish a terrorists fellow citizens because they missed the warning signs.
Home grown terrorists do provide a different problem to resolve but, their actions must also be addressed with the prior knowledge that even though they are dead, there will still be a high price to pay.
As I said, show me/us your way to end this insanity.............. Go ahead, I'm waiting.... ------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
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I see so we should kill innocent people so that Muslims realize that we mean business! Wow that makes such great sense. Muslims have no skin in the game???? Honestly, go do some reading to see who the main victims of Islamic terror groups are.
Edit: I get the sentiment but not very well thought through IMO.
Harboring terrorist is not being innocent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're a pussie, just like them they hide behind innocents.. instead of being an milt. army.. Tell this **** to the mother of her son that is killed by a woman that walks up to a post and goes boom.. or a child,, that does the same and goes boom.. Why do you point the finger at those that are the cause , that hide behind innocents like cowards.. that send women and children to go blow something/people up.. Why is it, that you think we want to harm innocents!!!!!!!!!!!!.. I guess in your mind. we should do nothing as long as they are hiding behind others like cowards..
I see so we should kill innocent people so that Muslims realize that we mean business! Wow that makes such great sense. Muslims have no skin in the game???? Honestly, go do some reading to see who the main victims of Islamic terror groups are.
Edit: I get the sentiment but not very well thought through IMO.
Yeah, we wouldn't want any 'collateral' killings. Who amongst their victims isn't 'innocent'?
I laughed. When I saw the pic, and read your words, I pictured a drunk fisherman with his head in the sand being butt raped by a peaceful muslim. Both mysteriously had bacon sandwiches on their person while this was transpiring.
Home grown terrorists do provide a different problem to resolve but, their actions must also be addressed with the prior knowledge that even though they are dead, there will still be a high price to pay.
As I said, show me/us your way to end this insanity.............. Go ahead, I'm waiting....
Why would you think I have a solution? I've said this countless times that issues like this are big ones, there are no quick and easy solutions. It's disgusting when innocent people are killed but unfortunately people have been killing others as far back as humans existed. One of the things that may help is to try and understand what motivates a person or people to do such a thing, another key IMO is education. There are plenty of other things that can be tried to attempt to curb the killing of innocent lives but I doubt you or I ever see the end of it.
Harboring terrorist is not being innocent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're a pussie, just like them they hide behind innocents.. instead of being an milt. army.. Tell this **** to the mother of her son that is killed by a woman that walks up to a post and goes boom.. or a child,, that does the same and goes boom.. Why do you point the finger at those that are the cause , that hide behind innocents like cowards.. that send women and children to go blow something/people up.. Why is it, that you think we want to harm innocents!!!!!!!!!!!!.. I guess in your mind. we should do nothing as long as they are hiding behind others like cowards..
I'm unsure what you are spouting off about. You may want to project your hate on someone else.
I laughed. When I saw the pic, and read your words, I pictured a drunk fisherman with his head in the sand being butt raped by a peaceful muslim. Both mysteriously had bacon sandwiches on their person while this was transpiring.
You really do seem to have a fixation with gay sex, are you sure there's not a closet you'd like to come out of?
Then you'd think the 'peaceful' Muslims could bring the 'violent' ones under control, rather than bankrolling them.
There really are no such things as "radicalized muslum", " islamic terrorist" and any other forms of politically correct words or terms for jehadists. They are VERY proud to be called jehadists, that is even how the quaron defines them.
There is an easy soloution, Newf the left just doesnt like it.
Owtlaw Islam, round them up and ship them back where they came from to sort out the good ones from the bad ones on their own time and their own territory AND their own money.
Clean out the Western world and dont let them back in. You know, pretty much what any of us would do if we didnt like the way somebody was behaving in our own homes.
Problem solved.
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Not all Muslims are terrorists... But lately all terrorists are Muslim. Let's compare.
Left wears masks and wants to fight anyone they disagree with. ... So do terrorists. Left kills babies.... So do terrorists. Left removes any monument they don't agree with.... So do terrorists.
If you find yourself defending terrorists... You are probably on the wrong side of history.
So Newf says we shouldn't hold the average Muslim responsible for the actions of the "radicals", yet 66% of British Muslims say that they would not give the police any terror related tip offs. With the British Muslim population at 2,900,000, this means that 1,914,000 Muslims would have protected the coward responsible for yesterdays attack. This is beyond defensible, and shows the peaceful majority garbage spouted by the left to be utter garbage.
"Astonishing" two in three British Muslims would NOT give police terror tip-offs"
There is a fight in Federal Court in Detroit going on at this very moment to allow muslims to practice genital mutilation on young girls due to religious beliefs.
Good times yo!
The only time that Newf will understand is if it happens to him or his family. Sadly that is what it will take. For many even that will not do it.
I am back on the glass parking lot train. Choo choo mother ****ers! I am Manchester bound and rolling coal!
Ive heard today that British have arrested a 23 year old muslim guy. ISIS took credit. All these european countries let the muslim 'refugees' flood in by the tens of thousands and now their reaping what they sowed. I personally heard some news programs blame Trumps speech. Using that same old type of excuse Hillary tried on Benghazi. Just more made up BS.
Why would you think I have a solution? I've said this countless times that issues like this are big ones, there are no quick and easy solutions. It's disgusting when innocent people are killed but unfortunately people have been killing others as far back as humans existed. One of the things that may help is to try and understand what motivates a person or people to do such a thing, another key IMO is education. There are plenty of other things that can be tried to attempt to curb the killing of innocent lives but I doubt you or I ever see the end of it.
Newf, I don't expect you to have an answer. But, here's what I do believe. If we make the price high enough, those that wish us harm in the future will weigh their decisions carefully before they act. We need to make this personal. Every terrorist has a mother and a father and potentially sisters and brothers, family and friends. If, we took a hard line and actually did follow through, some of those potential terrorists would re-consider. We should never just pick some town, it needs to be where the terrorist is from and we need to wipe it off the face of the earth. Leave nothing standing. Such action won't stop all of the attacks and for a while it might make the situation worse but, eventually, they'll run out of places to hide, eventually others will start to turn in/over names. Winning the hearts and minds of our enemy has never worked to my knowledge. But, they do understand hard lessons.
It won't surprise me if there isn't an attack in the US or Canada in the near future. Know your enemy, they hate us. Those who won't stand against the terrorists are not your friend.
Edited: Let me say again, I am open to other ideas but, so far, no one has offered squat that has worked. I'm still waiting, not just on you but all of those who think we're a bunch of hard assed meanies. You haven't seen hard assed yet.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
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Not all Muslims are terrorists... But lately all terrorists are Muslim.
If you find yourself defending terrorists... You are probably on the wrong side of history.
The quoron teaches that not all muslums are called the fight jehad (physically), but all mulims can contribute, with various support mechanisms such as money, encouraging, shelter and other means.
So....21% are responsible for 100% of terrorist attacks. Seems pretty clear that removing that 21% would totally eliminate them so everyone in the world would be safe to walk the streets again...well except for the 'normal' regular crimes.
Saw Richard Clarke on Cooper 360 last evening. He made some great points about the current state of terrorism and the reasons behind much of it IMO.
I noticed you dodged my question regarding the 66% Muslim's whom would not report one of their peers for planning or committing an act of terror. Do you not find this troubling?
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I noticed you dodged my question regarding the 66% Muslim's whom would not report one of their peers for planning or committing an act of terror. Do you not find this troubling?
No, he is too busy crying about my 5% difference in numbers that I conceded to.
Here is how I feel about cucked muslim sympathizers...
NSFW. Should be played at very high volumes...
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I noticed you dodged my question regarding the 66% Muslim's whom would not report one of their peers for planning or committing an act of terror. Do you not find this troubling?
Never read it yet to be honest. If true, of course troubling I will read it and comment in the next while if you like. I will also try and find the comments made by Richard Clarke last evening which I agreed with. As for the others here saying I am defending ISIS or any type of terror group. PROVE IT. In fact if you actually read my posts you'd see the opposite.
Never read it yet to be honest. If true, of course troubling I will read it and comment in the next while if you like. I will also try and find the comments made by Richard Clarke last evening which I agreed with. As for the others here saying I am defending ISIS or any type of terror group. PROVE IT. In fact if you actually read my posts you'd see the opposite.
I am not saying that you are the one defending isis. Nothing to prove on my end.
I would like to see the Clarke interview. I searched it, but came up short as to what you described. I am not blaming you.
The comical part of the whole mess is liberals are all for it.. yet if you study what muslim sharia law entails , And liberals think the conserves are a pain in their agenda..
Originally posted by newf: A future terrorist says what?
Couldn't tell you precisely but, within any group the radicals are known. You should recognize this even within the groups you entertain. Says? Hard to say but, those potentially future terrorists will be known within the community. My suggestion may just influence the members of that community to out the "problem" children who are future murders/terrorists.
No doubt, what I have said in this thread would tend to make some think I am an extremist. I fully recognize that. Yet, I only wish the insanity to stop. I'm willing to suggest ways to bring this to a halt or at least reduce the number of attacks.
So far, the normal defenders of the culture, the religion and region are silent. Would love to hear how they believe we should react and what they think should be done but, all I'm hearing is crickets and of course, yourself.
Yes, I'm angry, I admit it. I see no way anyone could justify such actions. When, something like this occurs in your neighborhood, eventually it will come to your community. Let us know how it effects you.
Edited: Should there be any responses, I will be delayed in responding to them. I'm about to undertake a couple of significantly longer transports. Leaving this morning for West Virginia and returning home late tonight, changing out trailers and heading to Wheeler, TX with a 53 Chevy five window PU. Dropping that vehicle and then to Chandler, OK to pick up a another vehicle and returning to KY. Will be home and working my normal job for a couple of days and then off to NY with a 48 Ford PU, then south to King of Prussia, PA to pick up two heavy cruiser Valkyries that I will bring to KY and hold for two weeks until I take them and two other Valkyries to Billings, MT. So, I may be off the grid for a while. ------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
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..............Yes, I'm angry, I admit it................
If only more "normals" would get angry. It is the first step to fighting back.
The West must stop accepting radical Islam.
Those terrorists are our enemy and there is only one appropriate reaction to the kind of people who strap on bomb vests packed with nails and blow up a bunch of kids. Retribution upon the Islamic state.
Of course, that's not going to happen. The enemy doesn’t fear us. They laugh at us and they should, because we are ridiculous.
We are fools who think that with just a little more submission they will accept us as friends.
We are fools whose response to spilled blood is flowers, cards, Facebook posts and tweets.
We are fools for not having a fraction of the faith in ourselves that the terrorists have in themselves. They blow themselves to smithereens for their cause while we shop at Walmart and fret about Katy Perry's latest love interest.
We are fools for inviting them into our countries, sacrificing our own values so they can remain what they always have been, 7th century savages and we do it on our dime.
You know, we elected a president who wants to slow down the refugee surge so we have a chance to figure out who the hell they are and the Liberal elite went to court and used sanctimonious legal reasoning to ensure that our people are kept defenseless.
Why did the Libs do this?
So they can feel good about themselves. Which means that "Normals" are dying due to narcissism.
The answer to this madness is not fake solidarity, social media memes and sacrificing a few little girls here and there. The answer is to destroy the enemy, to take up arms and crush them and scare the survivors so that their descendants talk in awe about the vengeance of Western Civilization for ten generations.
I laughed. When I saw the pic, and read your words, I pictured a drunk fisherman with his head in the sand being butt raped by a peaceful muslim. Both mysteriously had bacon sandwiches on their person while this was transpiring.
I would like to put my John Hancock on that sheet of papyrus.
