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New nose emblems - ready to make, need a final design by trivet
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Hi all,

I have been looking for a new front emblem for my Fiero, something a bit more modern. I have had some prototypes made for myself to test quality and fit, and I'm happy with the results.

This is image I used for the prototype:


What I don't have is a final design. There are several I like, but I have been unable to get a hold of the creators to get permission to produce their design. And I won't without permission.

Such as ones from this thread Thoughts on this Fiero Performance Racing Emblem




I have been unable to reach 'My Username Is' for permission to use any of these. (I really like some of them)
I did use one of the designs to make a prototype for my own use (he gives permission in the thread to do so).

I have ZERO art/photoshop/imagination/skill - so....looking for some design suggestions to make a limited run of new emblems. Not looking to reproduce the original, as these are already available. I'm not using Cliffs logo, that is his (he is working on his own, I got his ok to make a different design)

These will be the emblem insert only - the original bezel will still be needed.

Gauging interest - not taking ANY money. If enough people are interested, and once I have a design, I'll have a small run made and go from there.

Tim

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Report this Post10-26-2016 09:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I don't see an image of what yours would be ( but sometimes my puter doesn't show pics), or which of the ones in the other thread is it like?
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Report this Post10-26-2016 10:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for trivetClick Here to Email trivetSend a Private Message to trivetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I was able to cut and paste some samples in my original post - These are what I had in mind. Or something similar.

Willing to look at anything though, if there is enough interest, and a general consensus on design, I can get these done in a week or 2. The first batch wasn't as thick as I would have liked, will have better results on the final run.

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Report this Post10-26-2016 10:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
They are very cool.
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Report this Post10-27-2016 06:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for trivetClick Here to Email trivetSend a Private Message to trivetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Here is the first one made - not the final design, just a prototype - still need help with the final design.


Comparison





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The wide/angled red/white/blue looks to much like a buick badge..
Now for those with a 3800s/c swap it might be just the ticket,, a hint, without any badges telling of the swap..

I do like the yellow horse and black background..

The yellow background I like but it also looks like another make , pshing that wannabe mindset many outside the Fiero club have of the car..

The horses mouth doesn't look natural.. somethings off..

I think a nose badge in the shape of the Pontiac arrow with the black background, and yellow horse would be killer.. sure it be larger than stock.. but allow you to loose the upper banner of red/white/blue..
That is more a buick badge trademark or Camaro than Pontiac..

Or the black background, yellow horse with the word Pontiac above where the red/white/blue is.. but g.m. might come knocking..
could always put g.m.80 there...

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Originally posted by E.Furgal:
The yellow background I like but it also looks like another make , pshing that wannabe mindset many outside the Fiero club have of the car..

Agreed - that's why it's only the prototype, not the final design. I wanted something different just to see what it looked like, but I agree, it's too much like a Ferrari emblem. (Might be cool for a MERA though )

 
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I think a nose badge in the shape of the Pontiac arrow with the black background, and yellow horse would be killer.. sure it be larger than stock.. but allow you to loose the upper banner of red/white/blue..

I like the sound of that. Anyone with Photoshop skills able to help out?

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Report this Post10-27-2016 09:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for E.FurgalSend a Private Message to E.FurgalEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I posted a link in this thread, maybe something will come up..

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...738-64.html#lastpost
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Report this Post10-27-2016 01:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for no2pencilClick Here to Email no2pencilSend a Private Message to no2pencilEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I like them both! Any idea price & when they will be available?
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I like it a lot, please change back ground to red with black horse so I can see if I like it even more.
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Originally posted by no2pencil:

I like them both! Any idea price & when they will be available?


Price will be $15-$20 each shipped. (Target cost is $16 shipped) Depends on how many are done at a time.

Availability will depend on how soon I can get a final design, then about 1-2 week turnaround. (Once I have a final design, including a high quality image to use)

I need some help with images!! Anyone with Photoshop skills?

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Trivet,
I'm glad you started this new thread of creating a new badge. I like the prototype you had made. I actually had a copy of that badge from another thread for a while. It looks nice, but I've always thought the kicking leg was sticking out a bit far. I think the horse's mouth looks okay to me. Maybe make the horse little thicker so it would be more noticeable.

Maybe change the banner style to vertical style. To be honest, I like the Ferrari badge too, but we don't want people laughing at us either. So, gotta make Fiero badge look cool like Ferrari, but separated at the same time. I still like the original Fiero's Pegasus. Maybe refine it & make it look better in 3D version.

Try color reverse with black & gold (gold on Pegasus & black background)....like Lamborghini & see how it looks. That's what Fiero looks like when it first came out.
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Report this Post10-28-2016 06:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for trivetClick Here to Email trivetSend a Private Message to trivetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
These are the ones I really like - I can't reach the person who created them though.
This image is from Fierosails website - they have permission to use them. I am hoping to get permission as well.

I really like the "sideways" Pegasus, much more modern looking. I keep getting suggestions for designs - But I don't have the skills or software to produce.



So.....still need some help with images. I can get these produced as soon as I have a high quality image to use.

I'm thinking of starting a contest - winning image gets the first 3 emblems produced - free. Thoughts?

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More from this thread



I like this one a lot as well.

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Personally, I like the design that FieroSails sells. That, and the same logo with the red, white, and blue diagonal stripes at the top or the original Fiero Pegasus with either horizontal or diagonal stripes on top. Unless it's to be used on a rebody, I'd stay away from the Pseudo-Ferrari design.
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Report this Post10-28-2016 10:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Are you ing to have a reflective chrome aspect to any part of it?
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Originally posted by 2.5:

Are you ing to have a reflective chrome aspect to any part of it?


It won't be a "true" chrome, no - but it is a glossy finish, so anything silver should reflect well.

What I want is a hybrid of these:




Colors from the top one, new Pegasus design from the bottom. If someone can Photoshop that - PLEASE DO.

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Report this Post10-28-2016 01:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for trivetClick Here to Email trivetSend a Private Message to trivetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Found these here- VERY close to what I'm looking for!



THough I am thinking of a black/dark background and FIERO or FIERO GT in text
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Report this Post10-31-2016 06:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for trivetClick Here to Email trivetSend a Private Message to trivetEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Ok - here's what I have so far....... Thoughts?

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I like it. Got any price ranges, yet?
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Probably about $16 shipped.

This is for the insert only, adhesive back - no bezel.
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A couple more - can add color, just wanted to get input on these.

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Originally posted by trivet:


It won't be a "true" chrome, no - but it is a glossy finish, so anything silver should reflect well.

What I want is a hybrid of these:




Colors from the top one, new Pegasus design from the bottom. If someone can Photoshop that - PLEASE DO.



How would it look if the red, white and blue lines were brought together with FIERO dropped out?
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How would it look if the red, white and blue lines were brought together with FIERO dropped out?


Not sure what you mean.......So put "Fiero" and the red/white/blue on top?
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Yes. Using the stock Pegasus image, as above, bring the red, white and blue horizontal bands together so there's no space between them. Then put Fiero imposed over those bands in silver or black. Pretty much a stock logo except with the addition of the 3 color bands behind the copy. Same could be done with Fiero GT. All the Fiero nose badges used initial caps with the remainder in lower case rathr than all caps.

Possible legends with any design could be Fiero GT, Fiero SE, Formula or other custom copy, depending upon how hard it is to change your production and how many of each you would need to produce to make it cost effective.

Without reading back through the thread, will these have a clear overlay?

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Originally posted by fierofool:
Possible legends with any design could be Fiero GT, Fiero SE, Formula or other custom copy, depending upon how hard it is to change your production and how many of each you would need to produce to make it cost effective.

Without reading back through the thread, will these have a clear overlay?


I need to keep it to 1 or 2 designs max - otherwise the price per piece would not be worth doing. To get decent prices (about $16 shipped) I need to order 100+

And yes, they have a clear overlay - they are not a "flat" decal, but not as thick as the originals are either. Once I have a design finalized, I will have another prototype batch run and send a few out for testing, fit, and review. If satisfactory - I will offer them for sale in the mall.

I prefer the "new" logo, as I am looking to "update" the emblems look. I'll try the 'Fiero' on top of the red/white/blue (w/o spaces) to see how it looks,
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You do realize that the more people you ask, the more "input" you will get. You will not find everyone agreeing on one design. Just pick one and go with it.
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Originally posted by qwikgta:

You do realize that the more people you ask, the more "input" you will get. You will not find everyone agreeing on one design. Just pick one and go with it.


You make an excellent point

However, I did want some input, as I plan to have a decent size run made to keep costs down. So, I would like to see some interest in what I presented before I spend the money on a large(ish) production run and hope I get back my investment.

But I get your point, I've narrowed it down to a few designs, just working on getting a decent image with good resolution (what I've posted so far is nowhere near the quality I need).

I hope to have a final (or 2) by the weekend - then do one more "prototype" run. I will then send off a few badges to forum members to inspect, test fit, and review. If all goes well, I'll have a large batch made and post in the mall.
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Ok - these are the designs I'm going with:

New - updated Pegasus (Emblem 1)


And this:

Original Pegasus (Emblem 2)


Should have these ready by next weekend - I'll be starting with Emblem 1, and if there is enough interest, I'll do a run of Emblem #2
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First production run under way. Posting in The Mall to follow soon.....

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