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pr0j3c1 turbo 3800 71k mile guru wheelie machine by Justinbart
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I think that heat shield is a good idea. Not for the heat though. I bet that shield would keep a lot of road crap off the filter making cleanings less frequent.


Ding Ding Ding.....Bingo !!!

Pointless to some .... Useful to others...
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Nothing to see here, coulda had a V8
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yea man, would have been cool. 3800's are weak
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Yeah man who would want a Turbo 3800 swap anyways......................I DO I DO I DO!!!! LOL

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Nothing to see here, coulda had a V8


We have speed limits around here...
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We have speed limits around here...


Coulda used the V8 on one of Pete's cruises in the lehigh valley area

How are you supposed to pull wheelies on the street with a 3800 anyway
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Added some more pictures to the first post.

and audio clips

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it does sound like the blazer...
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it does sound like the blazer...



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Added some more pictures to the first post.

and audio clips


sounds good, but what's all the white crap on the ground???

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This looks like BV's motor AFTER he got it back from Whodeanie's, lol.

Nice build, I like the fact that it's not all chromed out or powder coated up.
Chrome don't get you home (or to 10 second 1/4 mile times) Ray

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Nice build, I like the fact that it's not all chromed out or powder coated up.
Chrome don't get you home (or to 10 second 1/4 mile times) Ray



I like the purpose built/used look. I think Justin did a great job executing it

I had a car that everything in the engine bay was completely painted/chromed/polished and it was a pita to keep up with.

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Does the BOV need some adjustment or does that style just flutter like that? Build looks great! I like the air bleed on the IC.

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Does the BOV need some adjustment or does that style just flutter like that? Build looks great! I like the air bleed on the IC.



There is no adjustment on the BOV. I have a new spring to put in. Right now it stays open at idle. I think it sounds like that because of the way I was moving the gas pedal. My feet kept wanting to shift like a manual. I've never driven an auto fiero before.

Tires came!

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My feet kept wanting to shift like a manual.


I cringed watching the video more than a few times....
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Idk why you say that. I wasn't giving it any power. Tires are mounted. Let's get some road turning going...

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Wait until you go back to your car now and accidentally no lift shift it a few times.
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Was that a curb at 1:25 in the last video????

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Was that a curb at 1:25 in the last video????



Wut? The whole subdivision area is curbs.

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So the car will only make maybe 1psi of boost on the brake before it starts to push the front tires. With antilag it will make at least 12psi, maybe more. It wasn't even trying to push the tires. Did a bit of tuning tonight. It feels pretty fast on 14psi.



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So the car will only make maybe 1psi of boost on the brake before it starts to push the front tires. With antilag it will make at least 12psi, maybe more. It wasn't even trying to push the tires. Did a bit of tuning tonight. It feels pretty fast on 14psi.



What RPM is it stalling @ with NO antilag?
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What RPM is it stalling @ with NO antilag?


about the same as mine, but Justin doesnt really know how to push it and he wouldnt let me drive it. I expect it could make 2 psi without it... but full boost comes in at 4500 or so anyway so its enough lag to stay on the threshold of traction in this 20 degree weather. Antilag in the summer will be enough to smoke the drag radials from a stop... so I dont really know why anyone cares what "no antilag" does.
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he wouldnt let me drive it.

LOL...I wonder why?

 
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so I dont really know why anyone cares what "no antilag" does.

I would like to know the ACTUAL stall RPM of the TQ converter in a FIERO.
So I can make my decisions on real world performance data rather than spec sheets.

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I would like to know the ACTUAL stall RPM of the TQ converter in a FIERO.
So I can make my decisions on real world performance data rather than spec sheets.


I didn't pay attention. Next time I'm driving it i'll see what it does.

Having a problem with the TCC lock up right now. At cruise the rpm fluctuates up and down. Any ideas?

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I didn't pay attention. Next time I'm driving it i'll see what it does.

Having a problem with the TCC lock up right now. At cruise the rpm fluctuates up and down. Any ideas?


My car did the same thing after I got it on the road years back with the 3K stall. It was in the tune as it was tuned out. Of course I have no clue what was changed but that will give u a start.
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I would like to know the ACTUAL stall RPM of the TQ converter in a FIERO.
So I can make my decisions on real world performance data rather than spec sheets.


I have said it a BILLION times... Even if you could stall at 4000 rpms it isnt going to create insane crazy spool.
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Antilag in the summer will be enough to smoke the drag radials from a stop... so I dont really know why anyone cares what "no antilag" does.


Going to need some bfgoodrich prius tires for summer!
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I have said it a BILLION times... Even if you could stall at 4000 rpms it isnt going to create insane crazy spool.


Correct, I used the wrong term what I was meaning was boost threshold RPM.

I am still trying to decide if I should keep the stock converter or go with the 3K stall.

I ASSUMED a higher stall, .68AR housing, and better flowing heads would give me ~3psi at the line.

Right NOW I can't get any PSI at the line. I may go for better brake pads too.

I really don't want 10+PSI at the line as I DO NOT want to break my stock trans.

Can you limit the PSI with anti lag? I had the dual stage boost controller but sold it to Formula so that option is out....
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Correct, I used the wrong term what I was meaning was boost threshold RPM.

I am still trying to decide if I should keep the stock converter or go with the 3K stall.

I ASSUMED a higher stall, .68AR housing, and better flowing heads would give me ~3psi at the line.

Right NOW I can't get any PSI at the line. I may go for better brake pads too.

I really don't want 10+PSI at the line as I DO NOT want to break my stock trans.

Can you limit the PSI with anti lag? I had the dual stage boost controller but sold it to Formula so that option is out....


A boost controller is still not going to "limit" launching boost, you can only set boost as low as your base spring pressure (usually at least 10). Antilag builds pretty slow so if you just go when you want to you can "launch" on whatever you want to launch on. With a stock converter it will probably march up at 1psi per second or so... This car goes from 0-10 in about 1.5 seconds.
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I didn't pay attention. Next time I'm driving it i'll see what it does.

Having a problem with the TCC lock up right now. At cruise the rpm fluctuates up and down. Any ideas?

I assume the TCC settings. Do you have higher line pressure on cruise tables?

 
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My car did the same thing after I got it on the road years back with the 3K stall. It was in the tune as it was tuned out. Of course I have no clue what was changed but that will give u a start.


Is it still doing it after the mini tuning session we had? I though it was driving better but I don't think the tune completely fixed the issue.
I know you were throwing trans errors but I am NOT sure what was causing them. I'm sure I can figure it out IF I can play around with the various settings and see how they respond.
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I really don't want 10+PSI at the line as I DO NOT want to break my stock trans.

Can you limit the PSI with anti lag? I had the dual stage boost controller but sold it to Formula so that option is out....


I wouldn't want to put such a small wastegate spring in to make something like that work with the boost controller.

You can just adjust the negative timing to make it build boost slower and easier to control with your right foot.

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Right NOW I can't get any PSI at the line. I may go for better brake pads too.

I've read on a few forums to get worse brake pads, the racing ones need heated up to work properly. The cheap ones work better at colder temps (like at the drag strip). I've never tested this but it makes sense, I always see the shiny racing ones and get those


 
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I had the dual stage boost controller but sold it to Formula so that option is out....


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Antilag builds pretty slow so if you just go when you want to you can "launch" on whatever you want to launch on. With a stock converter it will probably march up at 1psi per second or so... This car goes from 0-10 in about 1.5 seconds.


Anti-lag sure solves the lag problem but "HOW" it works makes me feel uneasy. I guess I just need to man up....LOL

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Anti-lag sure solves the lag problem but "HOW" it works makes me feel uneasy. I guess I just need to man up....LOL


A little heat on the exhaust valves never hurt anyone.

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Anti-lag sure solves the lag problem but "HOW" it works makes me feel uneasy. I guess I just need to man up....LOL


I had something similar on my mustang. Instead of negative timing it cut spark completely. It acted more like launch control though because it was supercharged (but people say they build boost off the line with a turbo using them).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx6V8k-2kkk

It was neat because it would also cut spark in between shifts (it was a standard) so that it pretty much cut torque and you could no lift shift without killing the transmission. It was called the n2mb box. Lots of mustang people use them.

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A little heat on the exhaust valves never hurt anyone.



Stock, SI, ZZP, or Manley valves? All valves are NOT created equal.
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Stock, SI, ZZP, or Manley valves? All valves are NOT created equal.


Magnesium

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LOL! I'd love to see that!
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Wut? The whole subdivision area is curbs.




Looks like you ran the curb at that point, the camera shifted.

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