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pr0j3c1 turbo 3800 71k mile guru wheelie machine by Justinbart
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It will feel slow soon enough, lol. I was always confused when I didnt feel like it was accelerating on 16psi... 23 did a bit better at scaring me, probably picked up 80whp.
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Still on 16psi ?
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yeah, I haven't messed with it much. I did get torque up and running on it though. This weekend I want to put the loud exhaust on and turn up the boost.
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I put the dump pipe on and messed with the boost controller a little bit. It is right at 21psi now. I only got to run it through 1st and part of 2nd so its hard to tell how much power it picked up. My butt dyno isn't very accurate because it always seems like quieter cars are faster when the drag strip and dyno say otherwise. The idle sounds pretty good with the dump pipe, it sounds a bit like a tractor when your actually driving though lol.
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thats why i have a electric cut out on mine....can you put one on your set up?
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I am going to use an exhaust silencer and just remove whenever I feel the need for moar speed.

Mine isn't too loud but I want it a lil' quieter for cruising around the neighborhood.
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My parents took some video at the flashlight drags, they didn't turn out very well because the sun was so bright they couldn't see the screen on the camera (only half of them are even viewable).









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"Oh my goodness he is going to kill himself"

It sounds like a jet taking off from a distance.

Get rid of that -supercharged- sticker!

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"Oh my goodness he is going to kill himself"



That would be my mom, lol
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Idle with the dump pipe. It started raining before I could take it out again. Maybe next weekend.
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Get rid of that -supercharged- sticker!


I'm waiting for it to warm up some, it's on there pretty good.
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I'm waiting for it to warm up some, it's on there pretty good.


I don't know if you noticed but I had some masking tape covering the 'super' and wrote "turbo" on it when I was at the track.

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I don't know if you noticed but I had some masking tape covering the 'super' and wrote "turbo" on it when I was at the track.



I might have to do that. Everybody kept saying it was supercharged while looking at the motor...
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I just found similar event next Saturday about an hour and half from me but there is also a car show meet and greet that day that I like to go to. hmmm...

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I just found similar event next Saturday about an hour and half from me but there is also a car show meet and greet that day that I like to go to. hmmm...



They are a blast, I actually like them more than the real drag strip. I think because it's not timed people have more fun with it.
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I took it around the block, but because it rained a few hours ago anytime it would get into boost it would spin the tires.
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Still on 16psi ?




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I put the dump pipe on and messed with the boost controller a little bit. It is right at 21psi now. I only got to run it through 1st and part of 2nd so its hard to tell how much power it picked up. My butt dyno isn't very accurate because it always seems like quieter cars are faster when the drag strip and dyno say otherwise. The idle sounds pretty good with the dump pipe, it sounds a bit like a tractor when your actually driving though lol.


 
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I'm running around 19 now, at 21 it was spinning through first gear on the street. 19 seems like a pretty good spot for it.
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Meh, I say disconnect the wg and see what they spark will hold. Once it blows out, back it down a psi or 2 and you're all set.
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I took it to the track tonight, but it was really windy so they made it 1/8th mile. On 18psi with the dump pipe it ran a 7.18@101.8mph. That was launching off the converter and it did spin some when the turbo spooled. I think the track was still a little moist from the rain we had yesterday. I was pretty happy with the mph.

edit: corrected time after looking at time slips

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I took it to the track tonight, but it was really windy so they made it 1/8th mile. On 18psi with the dump pipe it ran a 7.1@102mph. That was launching off the converter and it did spin some when the turbo spooled. I think the track was still a little moist from the rain we had yesterday. I was pretty happy with the mph.


Nice,what was your 60' ?

Why U not using the ALS?
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Nice,what was your 60' ?

Why U not using the ALS?


It would have just spun, here was my first run (7.22@102). I didn't get the other ones on video.

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Can you post the slip? It looks like its moving quite a bit better on the big end. Too bad they didn't have the full 1/4 running. Did you do a burnout?
Who says 3800 's sound bad!?
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I don't know what I did with the slip from the pass with the sti, here is the other run:

60' 1.88
330' 4.78
1/8 7.18
1/8mph 101.8

Just a small burnout to get the water off. Next time I go if it's 1/4 i'll do a bigger burnout. I didn't drop the tire pressure either, it was disappointing that they dropped it to 1/8th lol.
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Who says 3800 's sound bad!?


I actually got a ton of compliments on how it sounded going down the track. I really like the idle with the dump pipe. It's a little bit choppy and really deep.

I have my gopro videos uploading, they should be done in a few years.

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Looks good. Makes me want to drive mine. Can't wait to see some full passes from yours with the new converter.

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Looks good. Makes me want to drive mine. Can't wait to see some full passes from yours with the new converter.



X4....to all of what he (LFiero67) said to you (Formula) but it applies to me (Nosrac) too.

I'm really happy that JB and DH hooked you up very nicely. It turned out great. Way to represent the 3800 + Fiero.

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X4....to all of what he (LFiero67) said to you (Formula) but it applies to me (Nosrac) too.

I'm really happy that JB and DH hooked you up very nicely. It turned out great. Way to represent the 3800 + Fiero.


Its unbelievable how good of a job they did. It's definitely making Fieros popular up here.
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I hot lapped it about 10 times and melted the plastic part of the shift cable lol (I read thats a common problem with the 3800sc swaps). I'll order a wcf one to replace it. Came in 2nd place (1/8th mile not timed) behind a pretty much straight drag car that claimed it was a street car. It didn't do too bad, there were probably 30-40 10/11/12 second cars in the tournament. I should get the videos next week.
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I hot lapped it about 10 times and melted the plastic part of the shift cable lol (I read thats a common problem with the 3800sc swaps). I'll order a wcf one to replace it. Came in 2nd place (1/8th mile not timed) behind a pretty much straight drag car that claimed it was a street car. It didn't do too bad, there were probably 30-40 10/11/12 second cars in the tournament. I should get the videos next week.


I melted mine this weekend to. are you going to have to replace the entire cable or just the end. I'm on my way to the shop now to figgure out if I can fabricate some kind of all metal end for the shift cable, and then maybe drill a hole in the shift arm and use a nut & bolt to attach it. we shal see.

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I saw Rodney Dickman has a fix for it. Im going to email him and see what he thinks before I replace the whole thing.
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Im dang impressed you were able to get it hot enough to melt that.. Mine sits right on the exhaust and it has only given me minor issues if I dont slam it down on the peg right.

The trick is going to be replacing the "peg" on the shift arm with a hole that you can run a bolt through, as well as probably welding on a hunk of metal with a hole to the shift cable.

The old janky shift adapter that was on that swap orginally was a turd (was very hard to shift, and it didnt let you feel out the clicks between gears), and I would for sure just convert the current setup to an all metal setup if you can manage it easily enough. Any shop in town there would probably weld a chunk onto the shaft for you, and you could prepare the arm with a grinder and any drillmotor.
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I never got around to fooling with mine today, mine only melted because I wanted to do a longer burnout at the track without shifting into 2nd, so I popped it all the way down to L or 1st, did my burn out and made my pass and noticed my shifter wasn't working, when I parked I checked it out the end only had gotten hot and made the plastic soft and I guess there was a upward force that pulled the plastic up off the pin. It was fine until I drove home, at some point it popped back up and just layed on the X-over pipe. It's done now just a melted nubbin on a stock Fiero shift cable.

If there was an all metal solution all would be well.

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Rodney suggested something similar to dh except threading on a metal helm end instead of welding on a piece of metal. I kind of like threading it as I could do that while is in the car. He also said to replace the ball with a bolt.
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I was worried about how close it came doing the shiftier that way. I put some heat shielding tape around the shift cable. Was that still there?

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About a square inch of it. I don't think anything would have protected it, it was hot enough that you could feel the heat standing next to it. I'm going to avoid hot lapping it so much in the future.
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Where you scanning trans temps, knock, etc?

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Knock, it wasn't showing anything. I wonder if 1/8th isn't enough load on the motor. I should add trans temps, it cost as much as the car...

I still haven't ran the car more than 105mph, but it's a blast getting there.

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