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eBay Fiero Turbo Kit, wish me luck. by JCircs
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The guys at turbocharger.com were talking about a Chinese knock-off one day. They couldn't find any real difference between in and th actual brand it was imitating, and it was about half the cost. Hopefully this will work out.

Dark what Honda engine do you have boosted?
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That's good to hear..I have searched the internet for info on this type of turbo and it seems that most people are very happy with them, and the people that aren't happy have never owned one.
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The guys at turbocharger.com were talking about a Chinese knock-off one day. They couldn't find any real difference between in and th actual brand it was imitating, and it was about half the cost. Hopefully this will work out.

Dark what Honda engine do you have boosted?


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I've got a B18C in my Del Sol I've been playing with the idea of boosting (either JRSC or turbo).

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Report this Post09-21-2012 05:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JCircsClick Here to Email JCircsSend a Private Message to JCircsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Well I received somthing today, it's a pipe that wouldn't fit in the box with the turbo and other parts. It looks good, not sure where it goes but it looks quality made.

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Looks like the down pipe. That's one expensive pipe if thats all you get.

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Looks like a pretty well made exhaust pipe/Down pipe what about the other turbo stuff?
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Report this Post09-21-2012 06:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JCircsClick Here to Email JCircsSend a Private Message to JCircsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
System was sent in two separate packages due to weight and size. It should be here tomorrow, I hope......
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Report this Post09-22-2012 08:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for revinSend a Private Message to revinEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Is that where the electric lawn blower hooks up to...oops I mean the turbo

Waiting to see and hear about the kit! good wishs your way!

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Originally posted by JCircs
Well I received somthing today, it's a pipe that wouldn't fit in the box with the turbo and other parts. It looks good, not sure where it goes but it looks quality made.


In simple terms that is the exhaust pipe for the tubo. Appears to be a standard Garrett T3 downpipe. I agree it looks well made. So far so good.

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Report this Post09-24-2012 07:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JCircsClick Here to Email JCircsSend a Private Message to JCircsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The rest of the parts were delivered today and it looks like a really nice setup. Everything was shipped out on the day he said, and everything he said would be included is here (I think)..... So far so good, Let's hope it works.




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Did the seller include instructions???? Kit looks nicely done. Far better looking than my one off creation. It should provide a very significant power boost. What does the oil pan return bung look like or do you just weld a steel fitting to the pan? The 3.4L oil pan is already threaded for an oil lever sensor so perhaps that spot can be utilized for the turbo oil drain.
If you DIY call me and I'll walk you through the process.
When you get this up and running, its advisable to use 100% synthetic oil as it will not coke up the turbo like standard petroleum oils do.


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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Powerlog manifold, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Flotech Afterburner Exhaust, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

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No instructions, but I have your phone number and that's better......

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Ace,
That's exactly what I told him, if all goes well I'm sure the Fiero community will line up for this kit.


And...if it doesn't go well, with the Forum watching the outcome, you should have a bit of leverage.
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No instructions, but I have your phone number and that's better......



I'm sure that the installation can be figured out but no instructions? I guess that for $1050 complete, the seller feels that no instructions are necessary. I am going to the Englishtown Auto Show on Friday Oct 28th. iI you want I can stop over and give you my thoughts on how the kit should be installed. Lemme know.

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That kit dosn't look to bad , How do you plan on tuning it? If i were closer id love to give you hand
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Do you plan on putting on Blow Of Valve?

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turbo looks tiny, maybe its all the youtube 76mm billet turbos I'm use to seeing.
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J,
that doesn't look bad at all. can you put more pics up? the pipe the turbo is bolted to looks small in diameter, but then again i don't know much about turbos other than basics. if it works out i might grab one. might be fun to drop in a 3.4 and set it up with a little boost. heck might even put it on my 2.8 which eventually would give me a reason to swap out the motor...lol
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You should probably order brand new 19# injectors as part of your install. I can send you 6 used ones for $30 but I recommend sending them out to be cleaned as they have been sitting around.

Basically, if you bolt that on with stock injectors, you risk a lean condition when you get on it. Send me an email if you are interested in used injectors.
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I'm impressed with what I see now - watching this VERY closely...


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I am watching quite closely aswell...
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Figures the crossover came pre-wrapped to hide the merge welds that I kept asking about in the previous post.
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Ok it looks like Sinister Performance will be doing the tune and should have a tuned chip in the mail shortly, Thursday I am having my local shop drop the oil pan to install the oil return line and refill with synthetic oil, it's supposed to be better for the turbo. I will probably be installing the turbo over the weekend, I need to order a blow off valve, a wideband fuel air ratio and boost gauge. Any suggestions on hiding the gauges? I don't want to change the stock appearance of the interior, I like the clean look. Ideas anyone?
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Jerry, before you go ordering more stuff, just know that the added components mean more work. I know I said I would highly recommend a wideband air/fuel kit, but this also means adding another O2 sensor bung in the downpipe and having it welded in. Adding a BOV means getting the proper adapter pipe to mount it in the pipe going from the turbo to the throttle body. A boost gauge means either running a pressurized reference line from the engine bay into the cabin or a cable if you go with an electronic boost gauge...but then that means finding a place either on the manifold or in the charge pipe to mount the sensor.

I'm not trying to scare you, it's really not much added difficulty, but it is more work. As far as hiding the gauges goes...you can only hide them to a certain extent. You need to be able to monitor and see them while driving, so that right there limits your options. http://www.fierostore.com/P...rowse.aspx?d=252&p=1 The Fiero Store sells single and dual gauge pods for the pillar, although they are not an exact fit but they're the cleanest looking solution in my opinion. Again though, this requires taking apart some of your interior, tapping into wires for power, routing all the wires nicely, and attempting to button it all back up.

Did you talk to the guy about the BOV situation?
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Wouldn't the sunfire boost gauge work? Also why dont you get everything working well before adding gauges? just my 2 cents

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I'd rather not add any gauges, wish I could just set it and forget it.....
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Run OBD 2, smart phone/tablet etc, torque app. /gauges.

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Ive been weighing the same ebay turbokit myself, waiting and watching to see where this goes.
And personally, I'd do this right the first time, and put in whatever now instead of later.
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Ok, after many hours online searching for the most hidden AFR and boost gauges I thought I finally found it, The AEM X-WiFi. It is wideband with an O2 sensor and a module that mounts under the dash and wirelessly displays on my iPhone. Perfect right? Wrong, it will NOT show boost, so I would STILL need a gauge. Now I found the next best thing,

Same concept but instead of using the iPhone it has a 2" touch screen gauge that's just over a half inch thick. It can be pluged in and hand held, mounted or double sided tape or even Velcro. If I don't want to see it I can unplug the single plug and put it away. It also is a multi gauge that can show boost with the addition of this,

I called PLX Devices direct and they hooked me up with everything needed to make this work with my setup. Once this gets here and my 2 bar map sensor shows up along with my Sinister Preformance tuned chip I will start the install. In my down time I will be learning about blowoff valves.... Stay tuned

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If you're not running an intercooler than a BOV isn't necessary.

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Im running 7lbs of boost on my turbo 3.4 setup.. You may think 7lbs isnt much, but trust me, with even only 7lbs, a 3.4 turbo fiero will scream! I hope your "china kit" works out for you, if it does you definatly made out, i paid like $3k for my garret kit.. But it was worth it, car really picks up and goes! Just make sure it breaths good too, get good headers and exhaust, maby a y-pipe if you need one, or you wont get the full potential of your turbo!

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If you're not running an intercooler than a BOV isn't necessary.



Not enough volume to do damage? I've heard "not needing a bov" referenced before and still don't understand it.
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I'll be watching this to as well... I know i said it was cheap but if it works out well I have an 88 GT that is just itching for something fun done to it..
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Not enough volume to do damage? I've heard "not needing a bov" referenced before and still don't understand it.


Yeah its only like 1 cu ft of air. There is hardly ever damage to worry about even if you have some long charge pipes. It just might slow you down a tiny tiny bit when you shift and that air starts to move the opposite direction.

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If you're not running an intercooler than a BOV isn't necessary.



Not true at all. If its a gas engine, it needs some kind of venting for boost. I have no idea why you would think that. It can be driven without a BOV but all kinds of horrible noises and damage will result.
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Not true at all. If its a gas engine, it needs some kind of venting for boost. I have no idea why you would think that. It can be driven without a BOV but all kinds of horrible noises and damage will result.


I guess dozens of car manufactures have been doing it wrong for decades.

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Yeah, the grand nationals obviously didnt work.
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A diverter valve can serve as an alternative to a BOV. It's true that many factory turbocharged engines don't utilize BOV's but a majority use a diverter valve to reroute pressurized air back into the intake tract.
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