Well figured I would start a build thread for the 3.4 motor I'm putting in my car. Since the 2.8 finally spun a bearing or something(haven't pulled the pan on it yet) but the 2.8 didn't have much longer with the knocking and noises it was making.Anyway pretty much all of yesterday me and my buddy went to two junkyards with no luck for finding a engine we decided to call it quits and return home,well I came home and started looking around on CL and found a guy parting out a 93 Firebird with a 3.4.Anyway I got this great running 3.4 out of a 93 Firebird with a 5 speed at a deal I couldn't pass up.Pics to follow of the lucky engine thats going in my car and a few of the donor car.
How to pull motor mount bolts and trans bolts lol


engines coming out

Engine out an at home

Tomorrow i'm getting a engine stand from John (Fiero Redux) and can start working on it.
Not using the 3.4 engine anymore
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Korey "Plastic Makes It Possible"
86 Pontiac Fiero SE gold on black options incl luggage rack,power windows,power door locks,sunroof,4 spd,body colored wheels
86 Fiero sport coupe 2.5 4cyl/5speed
86 Fiero GT black,grey ground effects (in pieces)
86 Buick Grand National bone stock
93 GMC Typhoon #1710 black on black bone stock

[This message has been edited by NCTyphoonKid (edited 12-28-2010).]

I have a toolbox just like that.

quote Originally posted by L67: I have a toolbox just like that.

lol I was going to get 3800 but pretty much all the ones at PAP had the oil fill caps taken off of them l;etting water and trash get in the engines.

I told you one week was a long time in junkyard relativity.

quote Originally posted by L67: I told you one week was a long time in junkyard relativity.

Yea I know lol.I'm still trying to figure out why they leave the oil caps off on some of there engines though

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People walk down the rows and pull them off to check for oil buildup and grime, then forget to put them back on.

quote Originally posted by L67: People walk down the rows and pull them off to check for oil buildup and grime, then forget to put them back on.

True or they leave them off when they drain the fluids

Go watch the staging lanes, they don't drain oil from the valve covers.

quote Originally posted by L67: Go watch the staging lanes, they don't drain oil from the valve covers.

True

I just realized this was your build thread. Sorry about the single sentence floods. Get back to work.

Been tearing the engine apart on the 3.4 getting it ready for a good cleaning.

I'll be watching this thread

p.s. U shoulda cut those hood vents out too while u were there, I could see them lookin pretty cool on a fiero

Korey what was on the other end of the chain...eric....that is a unique way to do trans mounts....

quote Originally posted by bigals: Korey what was on the other end of the chain...eric....that is a unique way to do trans mounts....

I assume you mean when it's on its side? A 4x4 80 something chevy blazer

Today I got the 3.4 on the stand(Thanks John) Got the heads pulled off and the cylinder walls look pretty good.

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Sure got it torn apart pretty quick, let's see how fast you can get it in and running

Swapping over all the 2.8 parts, or converting it to use a 7730 ECM and DIS? I vote for the latter

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1984 Fiero SE

I think he's planning to swap over the 2.8 stuff.
John

7730 would be better.

I'm using pretty much all of my 2.8 parts.I thought about doing 7730 but wanted to keep my new distributor parts I've put on and I don't want to do any serious wiring.

The 7730 upgrade is minimal wiring if anything. If you're not comfortable with it, pay me to build you something. I've heard that with only the addition of the newer computer, the car felt a decade newer. I'd seriously consider this if I was you, now's the time to do it.

quote Originally posted by L67: The 7730 upgrade is minimal wiring if anything. If you're not comfortable with it, pay me to build you something. I've heard that with only the addition of the newer computer, the car felt a decade newer. I'd seriously consider this if I was you, now's the time to do it.

I'll think about it

Today I got the two cradle bolts the back ones (near the exhaust tips) loosen up.I'm hoping to have the cradle,engine,trans and etc pulled out by Sunday.Still need to unhook the shifter cables,run the wiring through the firewall, undo the coolant hoses, get the other two cradle bolts ready to go and a few other things pics within the next few days!

Use the 3.4 injectors if planning on a 7730 upgrade. Use the 2.8 injectors if using the stock computer.

quote Originally posted by NCTyphoonKid: Also if I did the 7730 ecm can I use my stock distributor?

If you use the $88 code mask, yes.

Please use the 7730 and DIS. You will thank yourself later.

John is right, per usual. Although I'm not sure you're prepared to use DIS.

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quote Originally posted by Jncomutt: Please use the 7730 and DIS. You will thank yourself later.

Yea, I have this setup. I'm still having some idle/fuel issues but i'm sure it'll just take some tweaking. The DIS coils/electronics generate a stronger spark and are a lot more durable/reliable then the factory stuff. It also cleans the look of engine bay up quite a bit.
Wiring changes to the 7730 aren't that hard, changing to DIS only makes it a tiny bit harder, not that big of a deal. You are going to need to use that EGR that came with that 3.4 if you want to use an EGR, the factory vacuum one won't work.
Here is my engine.

quote Originally posted by mattwa:

Jeez, I learn something new every time I log in here. NOW I see how to route those damn plug wires so they don't look like an afterthought! Nice engine, man!!

Thanks for the info guys!

quote Originally posted by mattwa: You are going to need to use that EGR that came with that 3.4 if you want to use an EGR, the factory vacuum one won't work.

Worth it just for this, lol. That stupid code 32 has pissed me off more than a few times..

quote Originally posted by Jncomutt: Worth it just for this, lol. That stupid code 32 has pissed me off more than a few times..

Yea, my Dad's GT has that problem pop up every time on the highway. I removed my EGR system totally so no problems for me. Hope it passes emissions.

quote Originally posted by mattwa: Hope it passes emissions.

Ermm... yeah, good luck with that.

quote Originally posted by L67: Ermm... yeah, good luck with that.

Collector Plates. FTW

No emissions testing on OBDI cars in North Carolina FTW.

quote Originally posted by L67: No emissions testing on OBDI cars in North Carolina FTW.

They don't have e-Check in all parts of Ohio any more either. It's only in some parts of the north near Cleveland, and some counties around Columbus. I think they had trouble keeping it running, vs. money made from the eCheck itself and whatever other taxes there are that went toward it.

quote Originally posted by Midnight: Collector Plates. FTW

Yea, I could do that, but if it has collector plates it can't be a daily driver, which mine is (my only car).

quote Originally posted by dobey: They don't have e-Check in all parts of Ohio any more either. It's only in some parts of the north near Cleveland, and some counties around Columbus. I think they had trouble keeping it running, vs. money made from the eCheck itself and whatever other taxes there are that went toward it.

They still got it in Lorain county.

Got the front cradle bolts ready to come out (Thanks Galen) Hoping to have the motor out either today or tomorrow

Today is the day I hope almost have the engine ready to come out pics soon