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[Edited by Cliff Pennock: "Removed an unecessary remark."] by Toddster
Started on: 12-26-2007 12:34 AM
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This is in fact what I wrote, not a blanket statement, but simply an observation.

 
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and from what I have seen, Bill does not need anyone to come to his rescue.




 
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Originally posted by 84Bill:

Did anyone stop for one second and even consider asking Bill?


Ok, well do you?

As of late I would say you have been kind of picked on BUT I have certainly seen you twist planty of nipples in the past.


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As of late I would say you have been kind of picked on BUT I have certainly seen you twist planty of nipples in the past.


Right.. so because you think I deserve it, it's okay for them to do it?

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Right.. so because you think I deserve it, it's okay for them to do it?




Well there you go, I never said that.

Sorry, but you are just not the little angel of PFF and I am certainly not surprised by any of this. Did I say deserved? Nooooooooooop, just not surprised.
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I suppose if I asked Todd to remove my name all of this would have been avoided..

I'm so dumb... and slow...I think I'll just take my lamp and go sulk in a corner... And my remote.. thats all I need is my lamp and my remote... and my dog.. My lamp, remote and my dog, thats all I need.. now I'll go eat worms and die... and Todd will feel sorry.


And that's it and that's the only thing I need, is this. I don't need this or this. Just this ashtray. And this paddle game, the ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need. And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need. And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control and the paddle ball. And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game and the remote control and the lamp and that's all I need. And that's all I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one - I need this. The paddle game, and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches, for sure. And this. And that's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, this magazine and the chair.
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"Bill does not need anyone to come to his rescue."


IOW Screw Bill..

 
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Well there you go, I never said that.


Okay... lets keep it really short and sweet.

I know you never "said" that verbatim.. this is what you said.

 
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I have certainly seen you twist planty of nipples in the past.


IOW Bill You deserved it.

 
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you are just not the little angel of PFF

Dont lie, you aren't sorry.

IOW Bill you deserve it.

Please let me know if I'm connecting the dots in the wrong order.
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i forget, who is this thread about?
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For Christ sakes! what a fricken victim, now I suppose I am the one DOING it to you. I take it all back, you definitely need help or to be rescued or whatever from all the big meanies that you of course NEVER EVER poked with a stick.

The question has to be,,,,,, who the hell do you think you are fooling?
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For Christ sakes! what a fricken victim, now I suppose I am the one DOING it to you. I take it all back, you definitely need help or to be rescued or whatever from all the big meanies that you of course NEVER EVER poked with a stick.

The question has to be,,,,,, who the hell do you think you are fooling?


The answer is you arent fooling me. You were the one that brought my name into this. Now you have to deal with explaining yourself. If you dont like explaining yourself to the person you were referring to in your post then dont mention it.

So WTF do you mean by "Bill does not need anyone to come to his rescue"? Am I like a ghost or something? What did you mean?

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Originally posted by 84Bill:
So WTF do you mean by "Bill does not need anyone to come to his rescue"? Am I like a ghost or something? What did you mean?


Once again,,,,,,,,,, without you snipping it this IS what I wrote

"and from what I have seen, Bill does not need anyone to come to his rescue."

Geeeze let me spell it out again for you! You seam to take care of yourself JUST FINE!


 
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The answer is you arent fooling me. You were the one that brought my name into this. Now you have to deal with explaining yourself. If you dont like explaining yourself to the person you were referring to in your post then dont mention it.


Ah, thee ole misdirection strategy you seem to fall back on so often when YOU won't answer a simple question, yet again.


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Ah, thee ole misdirection strategy you seem to fall back on so often when YOU won't answer a simple question, yet again.



Says the man employing misdirection to avoid the question.

Again... what did you mean?

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Again... what did you mean?


 
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...You seam to take care of yourself JUST FINE!


That's how I took it, too.

Paranoid much, Bill?

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That's how I took it, too.

Paranoid much, Bill?



Bingo.

Really the point was quite obvious. This is just another case of Bill wanting to play.
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...You seam to take care of yourself JUST FINE!


 
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That's how I took it, too.


 
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Did anyone stop for one second and even consider asking Bill?


 
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Paranoid much, Bill?



Not at all... but thanks for asking.

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Originally posted by Red88FF:


Bingo.

Really the point was quite obvious. This is just another case of Bill wanting to play.


Again....

 
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Did anyone stop for one second and even consider asking Bill?
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Sorry, but I think you are going to have to play with yourself. No interest form the group.
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The answer is you arent fooling me. You were the one that brought my name into this. Now you have to deal with explaining yourself. If you dont like explaining yourself to the person you were referring to in your post then dont mention it.

So WTF do you mean by "Bill does not need anyone to come to his rescue"? Am I like a ghost or something? What did you mean?



When I read that remark, to me it meant you are fully capable of defending yourself and didn't need anyone's help. You actually seem to prefer defending yourself. Just a perception from the posts I've read. What a person "deserves" didn't come into it. But since your brought it up, if a person walks down the street in a bad neighborhood with $100 bills hanging out of his pockets, I'm not going to say he "deserves" to be mugged, but I wouldn't be surprised. It doesn't excuse the mugger, but you have to recognize his behavior made him a target.

If not, then suffer, victim.
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When I read that remark, to me it meant you are fully capable of defending yourself and didn't need anyone's help. You actually seem to prefer defending yourself. Just a perception from the posts I've read. What a person "deserves" didn't come into it. But since your brought it up, if a person walks down the street in a bad neighborhood with $100 bills hanging out of his pockets, I'm not going to say he "deserves" to be mugged, but I wouldn't be surprised. It doesn't excuse the mugger, but you have to recognize his behavior made him a target.

If not, then suffer, victim.



 
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Did anyone stop for one second and even consider asking Bill?
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Originally posted by Toddster:

I have been on the receiving end of the worst and most vile insults and profanity there is.




Actually, I think I have at least a tie with you on that one.

But I don't remember ever starting a thread to start trouble either.
Like many have already said, it's Cliff's house and he does whatever he wants.
We are just visitors to his domain.
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I disappear for 10 days and everything goes to hell!

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Hi, Fiero5. Ah yes, the old days. :wince:

The year is now new and I hope its a kick ass year for you.

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Originally posted by Toddster 12/26/07@10:58AM: " Just repeating what Hugh threatened me with. Take it up with him."
I just got back from a cross country trip to visit my oldest son for the holidays,that is why I've waited so long to respond to your charge.
In what way or thread did I threaten you?In one thread I told you I didn't like you,and that still stands.I consider you a liar,who will lie to reach an end which favors you.I have little doubt that you are an intelligent individual,but the way to show your intelligence would be to not tell people about it.You must have some people skills,but they are not used on this forum. I as well as the majority of the people on this forum do not,I repeat"DO NOT" need you to protect us.Also when you post a reply to my first sentence give a thread and even more specific give the post so anything I've said (That you consider a threat) is not taken out of context.When I don't like a person,It is very easy to pick them apart. I won't since enough has been said already!
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I'm not going awayTodd,so you might as well answer me.Are you going to ignore this thread and hope it goes away so you can lie again with impunity? You never answered my question in the Euterpe thread either !
In rereading Cliff's response in this thread I noticed that you were the one who accused Cliff of taking money to let a banned member back.I defended you in PM's because I thought that even you would not stoop that low,I was wrong.The wrong you do far outweighs the good,it's a good thing for you that Cliff is as laid back as he is or you would probably be gone by now.

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The above quote is in a response by Cliff to Toddster !
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dont hold your breath, hugh. this post sums it up:
 
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Actually, no, we don't have a history and I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about.

maybe he doesnt actually remember it. more likely, things that he doesnt want to exist simply dont exist in his world.

buddycraig's post was from a thread in which todd asserted that he was a better fiero mechanic that any ASE certified mechanic in the country, which is patently absurd. when called on it, he responds in the familiar pattern:

a series of ridiculous, self-promoting and rude posts.
assertion that the original statement is true, with arguments to "back up" the claim
claims of innocence and victimization
ignoring the thread altogether, hoping it will go away,(which it usually does, since most people are not mean-spirited or interested enough to keep badgering).
lay low for 2 weeks, maybe a couple of light posts.
a good, helpful thread on a technical subject (current entry, cradle dropping).
lather, rinse, repeat, including unproven claims from previous incidents as assertions of fact. the entire cycle takes two or three months. if i were a psychiatrist ... but i'm not. solution? since we're not in charge of his medication, all we can do is save the links and help remind him of reality, whether he likes it or not.

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I have been on the receiving end of the worst and most vile insults and profanity there is.

this is the best part of all. apparently all those "stupid"s, "idiot"s and similar remarks are irrelevant, or simply didn't happen. it seems you can dish it, but you can't take it.
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I am waiting for the manual v8 guys to accept my challenge, I will race for whatever, money/pinks, heads up best of 5 races pinks style anywhere in the midwest.


 
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I never saw that challenge before, but you're on.

We will be racing for $5000.00 cash, just like on Pinks. (bring cash or Money Order)

We will be racing at Great Lakes Dragaway.

We can run in late April or early May whatever day you can make it into town.

Bring proof that the car you are racing belongs to you.

Put up or shut up.

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I do stuff other than watch threads on here...I do go to school full time, and pay for it myself without loans.

I dont think I am about to agree to a race without knowing anything about the car I am racing. I have information on every single part of my car available on the net here, and I dont even have an idea of what he wants to bring.

On the otherhand, knowing I will take crap for this, but I am not going to call archies bluff here, as I dont have 5000 to risk, nor do I want to take my car into the drag racing direction at the moment. i like driving it around town, and the fact I have already gotten back what I invested in it.
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Do you guys think my sig is too long? It's just so funny, I had to try it...

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86 Fiero GT
-Stage eleventy billion...(pieces, that is!)


04 Mustang "Terminator" Cobra
-K&N FIPK
-DiabloSport Performance Tune
-MGW T-56 Shifter


 
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Originally posted by darkhorizon:

I am waiting for the manual v8 guys to accept my challenge, I will race for whatever, money/pinks, heads up best of 5 races pinks style anywhere in the midwest.


 
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Originally posted by Archie:


I never saw that challenge before, but you're on.

We will be racing for $5000.00 cash, just like on Pinks. (bring cash or Money Order)

We will be racing at Great Lakes Dragaway.

We can run in late April or early May whatever day you can make it into town.

Bring proof that the car you are racing belongs to you.

Put up or shut up.

Archie


 
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Originally posted by darkhorizon:


I do stuff other than watch threads on here...I do go to school full time, and pay for it myself without loans.

I dont think I am about to agree to a race without knowing anything about the car I am racing. I have information on every single part of my car available on the net here, and I dont even have an idea of what he wants to bring.

On the otherhand, knowing I will take crap for this, but I am not going to call archies bluff here, as I dont have 5000 to risk, nor do I want to take my car into the drag racing direction at the moment. i like driving it around town, and the fact I have already gotten back what I invested in it.
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It is too long, it is funny, and you might be able to condense it with some work.
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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

And aren’t you the guy who said in a previous thread that home prices will never go down?


 
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Originally posted by Toddster:

Yep, I gotta clear it all out and that means all the rarest, most highly sought after, most awesome Fiero stuff in the world will be SOLD.


Coincidence? I think not.
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