Originally posted by AaronZ34: My family has a lot of cars I don't share.
Well, by your own standards of proof, if you don't post pics of everything on Pennock's, it doesn't exist. I see a Lumina and what may be a 55 Chevy. I don't see a DOHC Fiero or you, so they can't be yours.
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Well, by your own standards of proof, if you don't post pics of everything on Pennock's, it doesn't exist. I see a Lumina and what may be a 55 Chevy. I don't see a DOHC Fiero or you, so they can't be yours.
It also takes logic. I don't find it hard to believe that someone's father can own a rust bucket, gutted interior 55. But making 400hp with a really mild cam, terrible heads, and a stock block is stretching the truth.
Originally posted by California Kid: Just like the one clown who posted he had talked to Keith Huff who converted my car, and claimed Keith said " I sold Tom a Fiero with a "Stock" L98 ". Well guys, they didn't make stock L98's with 1.6:1 roller rockers, aftermarket cam, modified injectors, and two burned performance chips as standard equipment. What are you going to post next? That Keith lied to the two magazines that published articles on the car, stating it had 330 HP !!!
That was me. At the WCF BBQ at the beginning of this month I SPECIFICALLY asked him what was done to your motor, because of the debates that have been going on about it here on PFF. Why would he lie to me about it? There was no money involved in my transaction. I even asked him again to be sure I heard it right. "So the motor was stock when you sold it to him?" and he confirmed it. Perhaps there's some logical explanation for this. The only reason I didn't post it before was because he said thats how it was when he sold it to you.. and you had no claims about things done to it when sold. Now that I mention it you come up with something? Coincidence? I don't know why you would make up something about how it was when you bought it, since that has no bearing on how it is now, but that doesn't help fix the discrepancy here. Only one of you is right... please explain why Keith would tell me a different story.
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RFT running off at the mouth again: [ Quote from Shaun]
No you prove it!!! The member that saw your single valve cover is a well respected member in the fiero community and has no reason to lie. He mentioned he saw your car at the michigan fiero show(20th?) back when the car was still black in color. It had one valve cover on it he said. Now when did Lingenfelter ever only put one of their valve covers on an engine? You have tons of pics of your car. I am sure you have some proving you had 2 LPE valve covers on both banks so post them up. end of quote
Well here ya go Shaun, front cover in question is the same as the back one:
Just goes to show that your sources for information aren't worth a sh$t, and you'll say anything to get to tick someone off, before confirming the information.
Here's another gem; [my post]
This was all before I purchased the car, brought it back to Michigan, tore the engine down for more improvements, some of which weren't purchased parts like porting, and re-did the entire car.
[Shaun's post] So ported heads added 70 hp? end
So where does it say all I did was port the heads, seems you forgot to mention I modified (enlarged the lower intake runners) port matched to heads and new TPIS Runners purchased from Lingenfelter, modified the intake plenum inlet, floor, opened ports to match new runners, added new 52mm throttle body from Lingenfelter, had injectors modified for increased flow and re-balanced (yes it can be done) to support 400 hp range, added a new adjustable fuel regulator, and had a new chip burned for the car. I haven't tried to hide any of this information from anyone on Pennocks, it's all been posted at one time or another. By the way to don't need a dyno to get close to your target if you know some very talented people in your area, working at the GM Tech Center, I know a bunch of them.
Since you seem to be avoiding me, I'll ask it flat out.
Why did you pass up the free dyno?
You should be able to "own everyone hardcore" pretty easily, right? When you're putting 350hp to the wheels, that would shut everyone up pretty quick, wouldn't you say? Unless there's something you know that I don't.................
In an effort to establish credibility, my current project:
55 Bel Air 2 door post. 406 cubic inch, 4 bolt main, forged steel rods, forged aluminum pistons, Comp Camshaft, P&P 2.02 heads, Weind blower, Demon Carburetion, full MSD boost-regulated ignition-coil-distributor-wires, Equal length long tube headers, and a few other supporting parts.
Then you admit it isn't your car:
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Originally posted by AaronZ34: My Dad drives it, and it is his car.
So in other words, Your Dad restores cars and you help out.
So with respect to your credibility, You just ride on the back of your Dad's credibility. So that means your Dad built the engine and you handed him a wrench so now you know how to build an engine. (Guess who's "credibility" just got shot down by his own words.)
I have many family members with cars that I have helped with as well but you don't see me taking credit for their cars.
So now a 200ft burn-out is a measure power? I had a 79 Grand Prix that could do that and it had the stock 301 V-8 with only around 120hp. It sounds more like the 55 needs help with suspension/traction. Oh wait, It's a "a rust bucket, gutted interior 55" so without weight you could spin the tires all day long with minimal horsepower.
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Hey Cali Kid, how about posting the dyno sheet that supposedly already exists? "This engine was originally in a '91 Vette (350)and pulled out with 6,000 miles on it. It went through numerous performance modifications before being installed in the car in '93 (dyno'd 330 HP @ Tires). I'm the second owner of this car since conversion, don't have stats, as more improvement modifications were made to engine in the last 3 years. Based on claimed horsepower improvements of all the performance parts added, it should be over the 400 HP mark, and certainly feels like it." - California Kid from this thread: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20011127-1-008757.html Hopefully you still have the documentation for that. Would shut some people up. Who had it dynoed?
That was me. At the WCF BBQ at the beginning of this month I SPECIFICALLY asked him what was done to your motor, because of the debates that have been going on about it here on PFF. Why would he lie to me about it? There was no money involved in my transaction. I even asked him again to be sure I heard it right. "So the motor was stock when you sold it to him?" and he confirmed it. Perhaps there's some logical explanation for this. The only reason I didn't post it before was because he said thats how it was when he sold it to you.. and you had no claims about things done to it when sold. Now that I mention it you come up with something? Coincidence? I don't know why you would make up something about how it was when you bought it, since that has no bearing on how it is now, but that doesn't help fix the discrepancy here. Only one of you is right... please explain why Keith would tell me a different story.
First of all, I didn't buy the car from Keith, I bought the car from Charlie Williams, was storing the car at Keiths shop, as he was moving between houses. Maybe for some unknown reason, Keith didn't know what Charlie had done to the car, it could be changes were made to the engine after Keith had installed it. Fact of the matter is the parts are in there, and I wasn't the one that put them in. Charlie told me the parts were in there and also that it was putting out 330 Hp, that's contained in an article on this car in Kit Car January 1996 captioned POWER SWAP, that Keith provided some of the information for. So it certainly appears the either Keith wasn't fully in the loop on all modification to this car, or he loosing his mind. There another mag with making the same statements on this car build up as well. I can tell you one thing for sure, Charlie is an ex-pro Porsche Race Car Driver, there's no way he would settle for a stock L98 in his car, and he did race it for 3 years on road courses before I bought it from him.
Originally posted by California Kid: By the way to don't need a dyno to get close to your target if you know some very talented people in your area, working at the GM Tech Center, I know a bunch of them.
Come on, Tom. You may work at the GM Tech Center, but Aaron held the droplight while his dad worked worked on daddy's 55. (assuming it even belongs to anyone in his family)
He's got you beat there. There is no way you could possibly compete with the wealth of knowledge Aaron has, no matter how many engineers you know at the GM Tech Center. I mean, it's not like you do anything technical for a living, right?
Seriously. 1.17g? How could you possibly test that at the GM Proving Grounds. You'd need a facility with pavement and stuff.
Originally posted by California Kid: First of all, I didn't buy the car from Keith, I bought the car from Charlie Williams, was storing the car at Keiths shop, as he was moving between houses. Maybe for some unknown reason, Keith didn't know what Charlie had done to the car, it could be changes were made to the engine after Keith had installed it. Fact of the matter is the parts are in there, and I wasn't the one that put them in.
Thanks!
How about the 330 HP dyno chart? It must have been published in one of those mags or something..?
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Hey Cali Kid, how about posting the dyno sheet that supposedly already exists?
Hopefully you still have the documentation for that. Would shut some people up. Who had it dynoed?
I don't have the sheet, and I don't know who dyno'd it. I was told by Charlie that the engine, as pulled from the Corvette dyno'd 270 or 275 in stock form, and that later after the cam and 1.6 rockers, injector work , and new chips burned the car dyno'd 330, also supported in Fiero Owner Magazine under article " Wanna Run For Pinks !!??"
In all this digging around I did blow up a picture of the engine in one of the Keith's build up articles where it shows the engine with the valve covers off during the conversion into the car, the pictures shows stock rocker arms, which weren't in the car when I bought it, so maybe Keith didn't know the engine had been worked on after he installed it. I could almost swear the Keith supported everything that Charlie has told me, but that was a long time back, and I haven't gotten any younger in the process. I mean Keith no dis-respect at all, he shared a lot of love for this car.
This is a little interesting to me, but kind of a mute point, since I pulled everything down, added new parts, and made modifications to it.
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So in other words, Your Dad restores cars and you help out.
So with respect to your credibility, You just ride on the back of your Dad's credibility. So that means your Dad built the engine and you handed him a wrench so now you know how to build an engine. (Guess who's "credibility" just got shot down by his own words.)
I have many family members with cars that I have helped with as well but you don't see me taking credit for their cars.
So now a 200ft burn-out is a measure power? I had a 79 Grand Prix that could do that and it had the stock 301 V-8 with only around 120hp. It sounds more like the 55 needs help with suspension/traction. Oh wait, It's a "a rust bucket, gutted interior 55" so without weight you could spin the tires all day long with minimal horsepower.
The second comment was in reference to our Lumina Z34, not the 55. My dad rarely drives it, it really isn't streetable in its present condition. And I built the motor, like I said I did. The car came with a 350, which was pulled, junked, and replaced with a bored 400 (406), at which point I found the crappy blower and expensive carb/ignition and installed them. As for the Lumina, I don't post pics of it because it really is his car. He drives it to work everyday, drives it on vacation, etc. I simply found it, and put the new motor/tranny in for him. And I have a few pics, just not very many, and none of the outside.
I never said the 200ft burnout was a measure of power. Just said that the 55 did that, and it did, I was driving it.
I never realized that 3650 lbs qualifies as "without weight." By this definition, Fieros weigh negative 800 lbs. Gravity that huh? Yah, that's right, we weighed the car upon purchasing it, out of curiosity. I shouldn't have said gutted interior, the interior is present, just not something to be proud of. The seats are cheap buckets, the rear is only half present, there is no carpet, and the dash isn't very pretty, but its there.
Since you seem to be avoiding me, I'll ask it flat out.
Why did you pass up the free dyno?
You should be able to "own everyone hardcore" pretty easily, right? When you're putting 350hp to the wheels, that would shut everyone up pretty quick, wouldn't you say? Unless there's something you know that I don't.................
Hey, I cut you a little slack because you live in Florida, but there's salt on the roads here in Michigan, and this car doesn't leave the garage between Nov and end of March (sometimes into April depending on weather).
Secondly, I'll pay for my own dyno run , if and when I ever decide to do it, the money isn't an issue with me at all. Just because some people here are pressuring me to get a slip, just isn't enough reason.
Ya All have fun, thinking what you want to think about my car, I'm done defending it, cause nothing is going to please the one's crying out the loudest, and this is getting pretty old.
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I never realized that 3650 lbs qualifies as "without weight." By this definition, Fieros weigh negative 800 lbs. Gravity that huh? Yah, that's right, we weighed the car upon purchasing it, out of curiosity. I shouldn't have said gutted interior, the interior is present, just not something to be proud of. The seats are cheap buckets, the rear is only half present, there is no carpet, and the dash isn't very pretty, but its there.
I meant without weight on the back wheels idiot. You just stated it has half the rear missing now as well. So tell us again how the 200ft burn-out is suppose to improve your "credibility"?? I find it very funny how you think we're suppose to be impressed by it as well. Oooh you can spin the tires. Does that make you feel better?
Anyhow, were getting off-topic so please quit trying to establish your "knowledge", It makes you look worse.
Can we put up guesses about Aaron's IQ? I'm gonna say 34.
And guesses about when he'll actually have a DOHC 88 GT to match his sig: 2017
And maybe even guess about how old he'll be before he touches his first real tit, excluding family members: 37
And how about guessing when he'll be banned: Jan. 5, 2006. Jan. 17, 2006 Feb 2, 2006 Feb 24, 2006 (and pretty much within 24 hours of his registering a new username from then on)
327 with Dart iron angle plug heads. Airgap intake with a 650 Holley, Competition Hydraulic Cam Patriot ceramic coated headers. Griffin radiator. MSD, Richmond six speed with Lakewood bell and centerforce clutch. 9" Ford rear end with with new Eaton Tru Track posi unit. Moser axles. 4.56 gears
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Can we put up guesses about Aaron's IQ? I'm gonna say 34.
And guesses about when he'll actually have a DOHC 88 GT to match his sig: 2017
And maybe even guess about how old he'll be before he touches his first real tit, excluding family members: 37
And how about guessing when he'll be banned: Jan. 5, 2006. Jan. 17, 2006 Feb 2, 2006 Feb 24, 2006 (and pretty much within 24 hours of his registering a new username from then on)
Guessing is fun.
Your being nice LOL.
Im going to do some guessing as well
Aaron's IQ 20 Everytime he makes a post 5 IQ
Aaron's credibility 2 ? Everytime he makes a post 0
Dates when Aaron's will actually have a 3.4 in his fiero
2020 ?
2030 ?
2050 maybe ? fuel might be obsolete by then LOL, I can see him now at 70 something years old..... My fiero is da fastest fiero that runs on fosil fuel, The 3.4 pwns joo all !!!
And maybe even guess about how old he'll be before he touches his first real tit, excluding family members: Aaron won't ever touch a tit, He's gay.
Dates to when he will STFU
Same date when he finally gets the boot off of car forum number 21.
i really wish you guys would be more encouraging towards aaron and his engine swap. the sooner he starts his swap is the sooner he can't finish it and the sooner i can buy it off of ebay for 5 cents on the dollar.
i really wish you guys would be more encouraging towards aaron and his engine swap. the sooner he starts his swap is the sooner he can't finish it and the sooner i can buy it off of ebay for 5 cents on the dollar.
Why would you want it?
I dunno man... who would buy a car from someone that typed this earlier...
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Originally posted by aaron, teh bish: The things I love most about dynoes. I love watching the whole car torque up when it starts making good power. It is sweet looking, and then they let off, and it falls forward. It is awesome. The sound(s) are also crazy. It is so loud and powerful! Even Hondas sound good on teh dyn0. I also like watching everyone else run their cars, and watching the numbers. Plus, and best of all, you get to meet a lot of people, with actual interest in the powerplant of their cars. Not just folks who say yah it's got 5 gajillion horses or whatever, but the guys who spend every weekend tweaking. You can get into some really good discussions, and form connections very useful later on. I love going to dyno, and it is the best $25, and $50 I have ever spent I think. I could have made 20hp and been happy.
It is the same situation as 1/4mi. Even when I go and the track is so busy that I only get a run or two, it is still a blast. Most fun I've had in a long time no doubt.
Reminds me of a prepubescent with his first playboy. Just cant take someone of this ilk seriously.
You ppl have fun on the forum... count me out. I come from the day that we could take each other at their word, and that was good enough. We didnt have to measure our penises to prove our manhood.
Originally posted by FieroMojo: You ppl have fun on the forum... count me out. I come from the day that we could take each other at their word, and that was good enough.
there are still plenty of people who are honest and sensible. but you dont see them posting in the trash can all that much.
April it is. Everyone, mark your damn calendars, and save any California Kid bashing or instigation until then.
There better not be any more threads in here... *shakes fist*
Ryan, I may be wrong, but from what I read of Calikid's post....
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Originally posted by California Kid:
Secondly, I'll pay for my own dyno run , if and when I ever decide to do it, the money isn't an issue with me at all. Just because some people here are pressuring me to get a slip, just isn't enough reason.
a dyno is still out of the question and not going to happen
327 with Dart iron angle plug heads. Airgap intake with a 650 Holley, Competition Hydraulic Cam Patriot ceramic coated headers. Griffin radiator. MSD, Richmond six speed with Lakewood bell and centerforce clutch. 9" Ford rear end with with new Eaton Tru Track posi unit. Moser axles. 4.56 gears
327 with Dart iron angle plug heads. Airgap intake with a 650 Holley, Competition Hydraulic Cam Patriot ceramic coated headers. Griffin radiator. MSD, Richmond six speed with Lakewood bell and centerforce clutch. 9" Ford rear end with with new Eaton Tru Track posi unit. Moser axles. 4.56 gears
I'll guess 350-375 HP How close I'm I
I don't normally come in here, kinda funny and sad at the same time reading this.
