2023 F-150 lightning with extended range battery runs right around $92,700. The el cheapo version is $60K.
What are you picturing now?

Well... I was reacting to this remark, from MidEngineManiac:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...HTML/128223.html#p38

I think he was saying that the dealbreaker for him would be the time that he would need to recharge an EV battery. He wasn't very specific, but that's how I interpreted what he was saying. That if he were trying to do this with an EV, he expected that the recharging process would be cumbersome and time consuming, compared to filling up with gasoline.

He didn't make any reference to what he would have to put out financially to own or lease an EV.

quote Originally posted by rinselberg: Well... I was reacting to this remark, from MidEngineManiac: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...HTML/128223.html#p38 I think he was saying that the dealbreaker for him would be the time that he would need to recharge an EV battery. He wasn't very specific, but that's how I interpreted what he was saying. That if he were trying to do this with an EV, he expected that the recharging process would be cumbersome and time consuming, compared to filling up with gasoline. He didn't make any reference to what he would have to put out financially to own or lease an EV.

Wellllll.....DUH....

Here is an idea.....you enviro-folks want me to use an EV so bad ??? Buy me one, pay the charge fees and triple the pay to put up with it. Money talks. Bullsheet walks. Use you own wallet for that pipe-dream. Ya aint using mine.

Until then, go rub your own belly, scrath the top of your head and tickles you own feet all at the same time

Cant be done ???? well that sucks. Disappointing. Almost as bad a treating an EV as anything besides a kids ride-on toy.

Or cooking a bacon-steak pizza in an electric oven instead of wood-fired. Thats just barbaric.

[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 09-01-2023).]

Like many other things in the world, many of the proponents of this don't want to do the deed themselves, they just want everyone ELSE to do it.
Electric vehicles may be a fine thing one day, but not at the current (or near future) buy-in prices, power needs, and lack of infrastructure.

"It's a lot of money, but it's a lot of light duty EV pickup truck"

2024 Rivian R1T starting at $74,800
https://www.caranddriver.com/rivian/r1t

And 90% of the light duty pickup truck drivers will never use much less need the torque and HP that is available in that (or any other) elec truck. That kind of HP and Torque cost $$ to build in and $$ to purchase and most people just aren't going to lay out that kind of $$ to run to the grocery store every week and to Lowes 3-4 times/year. Even if I were still hauling cattle and round bales of hay I still couldn't justify that kind of outlay.

i do think that electric cars are the future but we WILL need more nuclear power plants.

Lithium... it's already come into the discussion on the first page of this thread.

"America Just Hit the Lithium Jackpot"

quote The world’s largest known deposit was just discovered in Nevada. What does that mean?

Ross Andersen for The Atlantic; September 14, 2023.
https://www.theatlantic.com...-geopolitics/675325/

Key paragraph:

quote Venkat Srinivasan, the director of a special task force on energy storage at Argonne National Laboratory, told me that having more lithium deposits, especially large ones, on U.S. soil is very important. Lithium Americas, the company that funded the research that identified the deposit, says it expects to begin mining at the site in 2026. But it still isn’t clear how easy that will be. Because the lithium-rich clays are just underneath the extinct crater’s surface, there isn’t much rock to rip up in order to access them, at least relative to other kinds of deposits. But no one knows how expensive or carbon-intensive it will be to extract usable lithium from the clay—and someone has to pay to find out

I'll just post these links to other recent online reports about these lithium deposits.

https://www.chemistryworld....ound/4018032.article
https://cleantechnica.com/2...argest-in-the-world/
https://www.popularmechanic...sit-found-in-nevada/
https://www.theverge.com/20...ne-mcdermitt-caldera
https://www.sciencetimes.co...era-game-changer.htm
https://www.hagerty.com/med...nder-nevada-volcano/

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 09-16-2023).]