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Banning nurses for your health. Nat Guard will save NYers. by sourmash
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There is much lesser evil to choose from.


What do you recommend?
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Voting for much lesser evil.
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Voting for much lesser evil.


Yes which? Yout must mean any that arent the two major parties?
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I voted for Trump in 16, and it wasnt a mistake. But voting for him in 2020 would've been, so I didn't.

The Republicans aren't going to reverse policies and they obstruct a conservative resistance. Nothing will change as long as there is a Republican Party, because they are owned.
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I voted for Trump in 16, and it wasnt a mistake. But voting for him in 2020 would've been, so I didn't.

The Republicans aren't going to reverse policies and they obstruct a conservative resistance. Nothing will change as long as there is a Republican Party, because they are owned.


I feel like there is a lot that you arent telling us.
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This is all to protect your health. They're going to fire pure blooded healthcare workers and replace them with the National Guard and foreign healthcare workers.

https://www.theguardian.com...overnor-kathy-hochul



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The governor of New York, Kathy Hochul, is considering using the national guard and out-of-state medical workers to fill hospital staffing shortages, as tens of thousands of workers are unlikely to meet a Monday deadline for mandated Covid-19 vaccination.


Foreign? Out of State does not imply Foreign........

But regardless, I'm curious as to which National Guard Soldiers are being activated and what they will be doing. It only makes sense that those soldiers being activated would already be medical staff and most likely also working as medical staff in their civilian jobs. So, all that such an action is likely to do is shuffle the personnel around within the state. Doesn't make much sense to threaten using the NG to me.

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Your statement implies there aren't any foreigners working outside the state of NY. Like I said, there are lots of foreigners working for companies that contract in the healthcare field.
Out of state also doesn't mean 'from another US state, only'.

Using the National Guard opens a door to using federally commanded troops inside the USA.
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Originally posted by 2.5:I feel like there is a lot that you arent telling us.


Just what, precisely, are you implying or attempting to affix to me?!
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Just what, precisely, are you implying or attempting to affix to me?!


I just mean it seems like you are stating little tidbits but not plainly saying what you mean. I feel like you avoid agreeing or clarifying?

"Vote 3rd party" is that it? "other"?
In your opinion.

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You won't get you freedoms back voting Republican. Their goal is how many Dems they can draw instead of standing on conservative values.
I've been very clear. You must be looking for a different answer or motivation.
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Your statement implies there aren't any foreigners working outside the state of NY. Like I said, there are lots of foreigners working for companies that contract in the healthcare field.
Out of state also doesn't mean 'from another US state, only'.

Using the National Guard opens a door to using federally commanded troops inside the USA.


The implication of "foreign" would not indicate out of state but, out of country. Doesn't matter to me, we apparently live in different worlds, at least different dictionaries/languages.
Additionally, the Governor of New York only commands that state's NG personnel. Other states might loan their medical guardsmen/women but, that would be up to those other state's governors. Federalization of National Guard is at the discretion of the POTUS.

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If you didn't know, hiring foreigners is bad for your countrymen. If you didn't know, we have opened our borders to dregs from other countries. If you didn't know, companies recruit illegals and accept false paperwork. If you didn't know, 3rd worlders don't have the same standards that we require in certifications and education. If you didn't know corporations will bribe politicians to inact something that will profit them.

You're almost there in regards to using federal troops after a precedent setting move of using the Guard. You repeated what I alluded to but it doesnt seem you're ready to acknowledge it fully.
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You won't get you freedoms back voting Republican. Their goal is how many Dems they can draw instead of standing on conservative values.
I've been very clear. You must be looking for a different answer or motivation.


No you've been clear saying don't vote republican, and thats it. Even when I asked for more you just again said don't vote republican.

Am I the only one that isnt clear on what you are trying to say to do instead?
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So that can't be all I mean, huh? Wth?!
You're chasing your own tail.
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So that can't be all I mean, huh? Wth?!
You're chasing your own tail.


I'm not chasing anything, you brought it up. Clearly this is all you will reveal. Ok if thats it thats it.
Even though I would think everyone can see you are avoiding something, what I cant tell.
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I'm not chasing anything, you brought it up. Clearly this is all you will reveal. Ok if thats it thats it.
Even though I would think everyone can see you are avoiding something, what I cant tell.


You are definitely full of crap. Are you calling me a liar?
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You're triggered because it's the Republicans being exposed. Keep supporting the enemy. You'll get what you're supporting.

We all know what the bulk of the Democrat Party represents. They're fairly honest about it and you can support it's distorted and ruinous agenda or not. They don't care about the middle class, ethical behavior, traditional people nor values.

What I know through observation and experience is that the GOP is a lying, phony, dishonest organization that sells out conservative principles and has one goal, and that is to make the GOP the only avenue available other than the Democrats. They aren't concerned with morals and character because they know demographics is destiny and they want those votes anyway they can.

With them in the way, we have no hope and no remedy.
Ray b is actually right about Prager U and Dennis Prager.

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What I know through..................................



Yeah, right................

Your grasp of reality is at most, slippery.
I've had several PMs and emails from other members telling me you're a returning/banned member. Don't really care, that's Cliff's problem in that I rarely read what you post and it makes so little sense that what I do read, I don't care about. It's mostly for entertainment purposes anyway. I'm not sure if you overdosed or are off your meds but, it's obvious you're reaching out for help. Sorry, I'm not qualified to help you but, I do hope you are safe when alone and harm no family members when unsupervised.

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Hey, when can't dispute nor counter what someone's position is just do the dullard ad Hominem thing and prove that your opponent is right.
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Hey, when can't dispute nor counter what someone's position is just do the dullard ad Hominem thing and prove that your opponent is right.


If that response makes you feel better, then go for it. LMAO.
Check your watch, it's very likely time for you to take your medication(s).

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I always figured you needing medications for conditions caused by poor diet and weight gain. I'm probably wrong, though.
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I'm probably wrong, though.


Yep, you're wrong again.
Tell ya what, let's move past this and just try to ignore each other. Pretty sure we'll both be happier.

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I don't hold any Ill thoughts or will to you. None at all. You don't like my positions and approach. We won't agree on the Republican issue. But this position developed over many Pres cycles.
How about we just keep it fun and not take it so seriously?
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I don't hold any Ill thoughts or will to you. None at all. You don't like my positions and approach. We won't agree on the Republican issue. But this position developed over many Pres cycles.
How about we just keep it fun and not take it so seriously?


Unfortunately, I can't agree, I'll just ignore your posts as much as possible. I take some things and the future of this nation very seriously. I don't buy much of the you spout as racist and much of it as conspiracy theory. Your politics don't really concern me. Sometimes I'm way too honest for my own good. When I see I normally call it. But, in your case, it's usually obvious so, as I said, I'll just try to ignore it and hope other's see it for what it really is. I'm quite sure you'll have some SAR as a comeback and that's OK. I'll just ignore it also. Sounds like fun, huh?

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You are definitely full of crap. Are you calling me a liar?


No, not sure where you get that idea. I was pretty clear, I asked questions you avoided. Calling me full of crap is quite off base. Id suggest rereading our dialogue, if that doesnt clarify things so be it I guess.

 
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We all know what the bulk of the Democrat Party represents. They're fairly honest about it and you can support it's distorted and ruinous agenda or not. They don't care about the middle class, ethical behavior, traditional people nor values.

What I know through observation and experience is that the GOP is a lying, phony, dishonest organization that sells out conservative principles...



Maybe this is getting to the point. So I was right when I said you are saying you would vote something not republican and not democrat? That being the least evil? If so thats clearly what I was asking, your opinion.

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You're fishing for some ideology or conclusion I've made but am hiding it from you. That's crap. My conclusion doesn't have an alternative party. It requires making the Rep Party irrelevant so a conservative movement can exist. One that doesnt promote pansies like Romney, Ryan, McCain, any Bush family member.

I've voted for a Constitutuon candidate. Probably twice. Last time it was Buchanon as a write-in, not Trump. I supported Texas Representative Ron Paul in primaries in the past.

It's all academic. It's too late to save the country already.
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My conclusion doesn't have an alternative party. It requires making the Rep Party irrelevant so a conservative movement can exist. One that doesnt promote pansies like Romney, Ryan, McCain, any Bush family member.


Thanks, I get your point more now. Repubs are watered down and you don't like that. Didnt mean to make it seem like an interrogation but I like to understand.
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They're intentionally trying to be the lesser of 2 evils while preventing an alternative lesser evil to exist.
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They're intentionally trying to be the lesser of 2 evils while preventing an alternative lesser evil to exist.


That was always a problem, the impression that the two big parties making a vote that wasnt for one of them not count.
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A radio commentator is pushing the notion that we don't want an incompetent Joe replaced with a more competent dirtbag who might be more capable of pushing the agenda. Of course he's right.
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A radio commentator is pushing the notion that we don't want an incompetent Joe replaced with a more competent dirtbag who might be more capable of pushing the agenda. Of course he's right.


I agree with the thought. Is it just me or has the vice been silent and not done anything since the election? Lying low and distancing herself?
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Are they coaching her up, is she not an asset or are they trying to distance her from.Joe?
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Are they coaching her up, is she not an asset or are they trying to distance her from.Joe?



There is no chance in hell that Joe runs in 2024... absolutely no chance in hell. I think Joe is too stupid to realize what's going on, but they're willing to dump all of these failures on him, and just chalk it up as "Trump was so bad, we had to vote for anything but him..." and then say that Biden suffers from mental decline, and he'll get a lot of sympathy, etc... and then Harris and / whomever will run in his place and they'll say... "We'll do it right this time."
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A radio commentator is pushing the notion that we don't want an incompetent Joe replaced with a more competent dirtbag who might be more capable of pushing the agenda. Of course he's right.


I can't disagree more. I think she will be MUCH less effective at rallying the troops. She will brake the glass ceiling, only to have it crash down on her.
She is most despised of any modern American VP. Good luck getting anything done. She is as lame as a duck can get.
Look at her VP record.....what has she done to add to a list of accomplishments?
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There's a meme about the cookies she gave away that look like her. Her face is covered with icing squirted all over it.
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"Former [San Francisco] Mayor Willie Brown writes about dating Kamala Harris, appointing her to posts"
William Cummings for USA Today; January 27, 2019.
https://www.usatoday.com/st...e-letter/2695143002/

From the horse's mouth? These are some of the remarks as quoted in the article from Willie Brown:
 
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"I have also helped the careers of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Gov. Gavin Newsom, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and a host of other politicians," he added.

"The difference is that Harris is the only one who, after I helped her, sent word that I would be indicted if I 'so much as jaywalked' while she was D.A.," Brown wrote. "That’s politics for ya."


I think it's a good little read. A "refresher." It's not very long.
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"Former [San Francisco] Mayor Willie Brown writes about dating Kamala Harris, appointing her to posts"
William Cummings for USA Today; January 27, 2019.
https://www.usatoday.com/st...e-letter/2695143002/

From the horse's mouth? These are some of the remarks as quoted in the article from Willie Brown:

"I have also helped the careers of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Gov. Gavin Newsom, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and a host of other politicians," he added.

"The difference is that Harris is the only one who, after I helped her, sent word that I would be indicted if I 'so much as jaywalked' while she was D.A.," Brown wrote. "That’s politics for ya."


I think it's a good little read. A "refresher." It's not very long.

I sincerely hope that is not the only difference.

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