We are under attack! Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. My friends and neighbors are preparing for the worst. Don't see a outcome with out a major conflict.. This was brought on by non stop BS from media, big tech and Corp. for 5 years. Only ones I can trust is friends, family, and God. ( opps! I hope its ok to say God here)
Legitimacy of electronic voting has been suspect by large numbers for decades.
IMO, voters no longer have an avenue to determine the direction of the country. The path belongs to oligarchs, just like so many other nations have belonged.
The path belongs to oligarchs, just like so many other nations have belonged.
I'm quoting this specifically because of how true it is. We have more wealthy in this country than any other nation, and that occurred largely as a result of everyone else failing (millionaires fleeing other countries), and Trump providing a free and prosperous economy.
But most countries are in fact run by oligarchs. They are the ones who control the flow of political donations, and ensure the passage of legislation that creates a barrier to entry for others to reach their level. Europe is run by oligarchs both in past and in present, India was always run by oligarchs, Russia is OWNED by oligarchs (many of whom reside in Sunny Isles Beach, FL), and China is controlled by oligarchs.
This country is now not only being influenced by oligarchs (foreign and domestic), but they've actually "installed" a government that they control.
This is really key, and I want everyone to read what I say here... the intent for control of the United States is to subdue it. The United States is the single greatest threat to a globalist agenda. Its free and democratic principles allow it to not only skirt all "globally imposed" ideology, but actually resist it. The actions of the Biden administration are not to improve the United States and make it successful. These things are simply too obvious and too easy to accomplish.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I'm quoting this specifically because of how true it is. We have more wealthy in this country than any other nation, and that occurred largely as a result of everyone else failing (millionaires fleeing other countries), and Trump providing a free and prosperous economy.
But most countries are in fact run by oligarchs. They are the ones who control the flow of political donations, and ensure the passage of legislation that creates a barrier to entry for others to reach their level. Europe is run by oligarchs both in past and in present, India was always run by oligarchs, Russia is OWNED by oligarchs (many of whom reside in Sunny Isles Beach, FL), and China is controlled by oligarchs.
This country is now not only being influenced by oligarchs (foreign and domestic), but they've actually "installed" a government that they control.
This is really key, and I want everyone to read what I say here... the intent for control of the United States is to subdue it. The United States is the single greatest threat to a globalist agenda. Its free and democratic principles allow it to not only skirt all "globally imposed" ideology, but actually resist it. The actions of the Biden administration are not to improve the United States and make it successful. These things are simply too obvious and too easy to accomplish.
I did not watch the video. Mike Lindel claims to be a conservative, but I care about his opinion as much as I do that of Martha Stewart or Brittany Spears.
It is my opinion that the election was stolen. You should not care about that.
Originally posted by olejoedad: I suspect that there are more people that disagree with this statement than agree.
The people that agree are of sound mind. The people that disagree have been sleeping on Mike Lindell's pillows.
Here's something I posted yesterday on another thread. It fits right in with this thread.
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Elections technology provider Smartmatic has filed a $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit against the Fox Corporation (Fox News) and Fox News on-air personalities Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo and Jeanine Pirro, along with lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell.
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Smartmatic claims Giuliani and Powell, who were guests on Fox News and Fox Business, “created a story about Smartmatic” and that “Fox joined the conspiracy to defame and disparage Smartmatic and its election technology and software.” They allege their company has been “decimated.”
The “story” Smartmatic is referring to is the false claim that the election was rigged for Joe Biden and against Trump and that Smartmatic participated in a fraudulent election. Smartmatic said Fox made “100 false statements and implications” on air and that has damaged its business and future prospects.
Meanwhile, lawyers for Dominion Voting Systems may have MyPillow CEO and Trump loyalist Mike Lindell in their lawsuit crosshairs. (Don't sleep on that one.)
Fox Business Network's long-running "Lou Dobbs Tonight" show has just been canceled and replaced with a new business focused offering, which a Fox News spot has described as a move that was already in the works before the newly reported mega-sized defamation lawsuit that's just been filed by Smartmatic.
Mike Lindell has said repeatedly that he absolutely looks forward to Dominion Systems suing him for defamation. If so, he intends to discuss all of the evidence in court. As far as I know, they've only threatened to sue him, and he's encouraged them to go ahead and do it.
For the record, there are several lawsuits still pending, quite a few actually, and the Supreme Court is looking to possibly take them up (we won't know for another couple of weeks). If they do, it won't be until summer.
The biggest problem in all of this, is that there has never been a precedent for overturning an election based on voter fraud. The way it always works is the election ends the way it does, and those responsible (if found) for voter fraud are charged and convicted after the fact. There were... what, 1 or 2 courts that actually allowed any submission of evidence of voter fraud? All the other courts basically threw the cases out before evidence was submitted.
I thought all this was settled when the cia and the US spec ops Army troops fought in Germany and the Army secured all the servers because we keep all that kind of electronic stuff in Europe...
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Mike Lindell has said repeatedly that he absolutely looks forward to Dominion Systems suing him for defamation. If so, he intends to discuss all of the evidence in court. As far as I know, they've only threatened to sue him, and he's encouraged them to go ahead and do it.
It's amusing how much importance that Leftists place on just the filing of such inconsequential civil lawsuits and threats of filing such lawsuits.
Mr. Lindell properly observes that civil discovery is what usually breaks the backs of these ill advised plaintiffs.
Once their original hubris is dampened by that process, the specter of having to pay the defendants considerable legal costs when he prevails usually ends their fantasy.
Why Leftists have so much trouble understanding American jurisprudence is baffling.
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I thought all this was settled when the cia and the US spec ops Army troops fought in Germany and the Army secured all the servers because we keep all that kind of electronic stuff in Europe...
No?
There's that holier than thou arrogance we talked about...
They keep talking about a "paper record" that they used in a hand recount (in Georgia) that debunks the theory that the Dominion vote counting machines were hacked.
Is this "paper record" that was used in the hand recounts the original ballots that were received, or is it a record that is created by the Dominion machines, when the original ballots are fed into the machine and the machine converts the ballots into digital electronic images of ballots that the machine's software is programmed to interpret? Digital electronic images of ballots that can then be printed out and used for auditing and hand recounts?
That's the first thing that jumps out at me.
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When the mail in ballots are received, the signature on the outside envelope and the signature on the inside of the envelope are to be compared and matched. Once the signatures are checked and verified, the envelope and the ballot are separated.
There is disagreement as how well the signature comparison/verification process was performed, especially in the few precincts that determined the outcome of the election.
If that process was corrupted by improper signature verification, recounting those ballots would not do anything other than recount possibly fraudulent ballots.
The recounts of the mail in ballots do not prove that those totals are correct, as there are questions concerning the veracity of the signature verification process.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: There's that holier than thou arrogance we talked about...
It's also the strawman argument. The same as cvxjet does with his Putin finger pointing that really doesn't apply to anyone here. It's a way to say nothing of substance except "poo-poo head".
Michael M. Grynbaum talked "defamation lawsuit" earlier today on MSNBC, referencing the column that was published in Saturday's New York Times.
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Michael M. Grynbaum is a media correspondent for The New York Times, covering the intersection of business, culture and politics. Since starting at The Times as an intern, he has served as City Hall bureau chief, Metro political writer, transportation reporter and economics writer during the 2008 financial crisis.
Tags and keywords: Smartmatic, Dominion Voting Systems, Lou Dobbs, Jeanine Pirro, Fox News, MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell.
After watching the first few minutes in which he displayed the tables of illegitimate votes in key states it was clear there is absolute proof. It was also clear the video needed just a little better development for the viewer to comprehend it.
I just got through 26 minutes and put it on stand by. Needs better editing/cutting. Maybe I'll revisit it if it's possible I'd be debating an alternative opinion, but that's not likely.
Oh Ray, get used to it. That happens a LOT here in OT.
Yeah, THAT is why I left. The echoes were giving me a headache.
I only came back because I think it's time Trump supporters need to get more focused. We're way too scatter shot in our approach to exposing what happened and we're very prone to killing messengers.
I think he's very much delivered on the promise of that message.
I think of August 15, 2020 as a landmark day in the recent history of the forum, when a large measure of civility was restored to this Totally O/T section of Pennock's, which had decayed over so many recent years into a Dante-esque hellscape of totally uncivil anarchy, or if not quite that, a lawless frontier outpost with all of the Old or "Wild" West's dangers and inequities and none of its historic value.
I think it would be no great exaggeration to remember that day as the beginning of a cultural renaissance for Pennock's Totally O/T; even analogous, in an Earth climate frame of reference, to the transition from the most recent of the Pleistocene glaciations or "Ice Age" periods, almost 12,000 years ago, to the much balmier and more human-friendly Holocene epoch which we live in today.
"What say you?"
------------------ Viva la revolución del 15 de agosto
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If the Liberals out-smarted all of the new TRUMP!!!! "Conservatives".....Well, shouldn't they run everything? I don't think that a group of people who were so completely outsmarted should have any power at all.......You must all be mentally deficient. You have always said that leftist/liberals are fools, so if you were outsmarted by those Leftist/liberals then you must really be low on the intelligence scale.....
As we saw all of the TRUMP!! appointed judges, etc go against trump, it becomes obvious that they have been converted....Maybe by some form of evil liberal ray-gun........
So, to feel better about the situation, maybe you should ask your local evil leftists to shoot you with that liberal ray-gun......
If the Liberals out-smarted all of the new TRUMP!!!! "Conservatives".....Well, shouldn't they run everything? I don't think that a group of people who were so completely outsmarted should have any power at all.......You must all be mentally deficient. You have always said that leftist/liberals are fools, so if you were outsmarted by those Leftist/liberals then you must really be low on the intelligence scale.....
As we saw all of the TRUMP!! appointed judges, etc go against trump, it becomes obvious that they have been converted....Maybe by some form of evil liberal ray-gun........
So, to feel better about the situation, maybe you should ask your local evil leftists to shoot you with that liberal ray-gun......
If the Liberals out-smarted all of the new TRUMP!!!! "Conservatives".....Well, shouldn't they run everything? I don't think that a group of people who were so completely outsmarted should have any power at all.......You must all be mentally deficient. You have always said that leftist/liberals are fools, so if you were outsmarted by those Leftist/liberals then you must really be low on the intelligence scale.....
As we saw all of the TRUMP!! appointed judges, etc go against trump, it becomes obvious that they have been converted....Maybe by some form of evil liberal ray-gun........
So, to feel better about the situation, maybe you should ask your local evil leftists to shoot you with that liberal ray-gun......
Rinse, is this the new civility you were referring to?
