The world is not black and white, the right is not always correct and neither is the left. I don't know how many times I have to say on this forum that there is a balance between the two parties that must be maintained in order for the country to move forward. Yet I get called out for "partisanship".
The honest truth is that you and your buddies here preach nothing but the republican party line, you claim everything the democrats do is bad and they are the biggest idiots and blah blah..then you yell at the first democrat you see and claim he is trying to divide us.
*This falsehood highlights a big problem with the left. They will not accept that some things are enduring truths and that most lies are evil.
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The world is not black and white, the right is not always correct and neither is the left.
*This is true, it is not a lie (see above)
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I don't know how many times I have to say on this forum
*You only need to say something once. After that, it's just noise.
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that there is a balance between the two parties that must be maintained in order for the country to move forward.
*When both parties are wrong, the balance is also wrong.
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Yet I get called out for "partisanship".
*You are absolutely partisan. You echo the leftist line, unequivocally.
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The honest truth
(truth?...see above.)
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is that you and your buddies here preach nothing but the republican party line, you claim everything the democrats do is bad and they are the biggest idiots and blah blah..then you yell at the first democrat you see and claim he is trying to divide us.
*The truth is that many of us are not Republicans and do manage to think independently as demonstrated by this very thread.
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Look in the god damn mirror.
*This blasphemy will certainly offend some religious groups. That is not very inclusive of you. Hang your head in shame at the next AntiFa rally.
The "truths" claimed are are mostly opinions. Mine included. Right Wing Values: Budget control
Right Wing Subjective Opinions: Debatable (as is everything)
Left Wing Values: Spending Other People's Money and out of control
Left Wing Subjective Opinions: Debatable? Worth debating when they figure out there ain't enough money to pay for their folly
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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
My wife told me to grow up. I told her to get out of my fort!
The world is not black and white, the right is not always correct and neither is the left. I don't know how many times I have to say on this forum that there is a balance between the two parties that must be maintained in order for the country to move forward. Yet I get called out for "partisanship".
The honest truth is that you and your buddies here preach nothing but the republican party line, you claim everything the democrats do is bad and they are the biggest idiots and blah blah..then you yell at the first democrat you see and claim he is trying to divide us.
Look in the god damn mirror.
I have thus far been kind, and accurate in my approach towards you.
The first two paragraphs written by you here are truthful. In parts. Although I have never called "partisanship". This is inaccurate and a lie.
I enjoy the "Republican party line". I do not yell at anyone. My gawd, is that the way you believe I live my life? You are VERY ignorant.
Mirrors? Ha, I can wear the finish off of a mirror! Besides a Republican azzhole, I have taken care of my body since before high school. Longer than you have been on this planet. I know this concept escapes you, but it is what it is. Truthful.
Many of my customers are liberal leaning. They continue to call upon me because of my strong moral compass, attention to detail, honesty, and friendship. I carry conversations with these adults. I respect them all, and feel that they respect me. We are neighbors, and all seem to treat each other accordingly. I have by passed jobs that are the extremes of both sides of the isle. I have freedom and choice. What have you got today?
The immigration debate was absolutely included in this continuing resolution, it was the reason many Democrats would not agree to it. They wanted a promise from Mitch that there would actually be an open debate on it. Why did they want that? Because last time there was major legislation(Tax plan), Senate republicans did not even let the Democrats see the bill before they voted.
Democrats needed some kind of assurance that the republicans were going to have a discussion with them regarding the issues. This whole thing could have been avoided if Trump had just kept his word in the first place and listened to the bipartisan committee that had come to him with a solution to DACA.
It didn't NEED to be... that's the point. Democrats made it one.
Trump specifically cancelled DACA as an executive order stating that it was illegal to do so as an executive order and said... "Congress, figure it out." so he had already stated that Congress needed to work it out. You are spreading mistruths. This needed to be a "clean" CR... nothing more, nothing less. It didn't NEED to have immigration in it, but Democrats insisted... and they were just played by Trump, and lost hugely.
Trump specifically cancelled DACA as an executive order stating that it was illegal to do so as an executive order and said... "Congress, figure it out."
For YEARS Obama himself said that bypassing Congress and changing the law himself by executive order was ILLEGAL.
...and then he did it anyway.
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The "truths" you claim are truths here are mostly opinions.
I will admit, there are truths which are certain. On O/T, they are not discussed. The standards on this forum are as follows:
Right Wing Values: Championed Right Wing Friendly Facts: Truths Right Wing Subjective Opinions: Reality
Left Wing Values: Shamed Left Wing Friendly Facts: "Fake News" Left Wing Subjective Opinions: Bigotry
How it should be:
Right Wing Values: Valued Right Wing Friendly Facts: Truths Right Wing Subjective Opinions: Debatable
Left Wing Values: Valued Left Wing Friendly Facts: Truths Left Wing Subjective Opinions: Debatable
Change either left or right wing to Nazi or tyrant. Does the logic still work? Should we value Antifa's values? How about ISIS? What about twitter's value of censoring conservatives?
The problem with valuing left wing opinions, "facts", and values is the majority of them involve tyranny, theft, and bigotry.
"tyr·an·ny ˈtirənē/Submit noun cruel and oppressive government or rule." Like the IRS targeting conservatives under Obama.
"theft THeft/Submit noun the action or crime of stealing." Like any number of socialist wealth redistribution programs.
"big·ot·ry ˈbiɡətrē/Submit noun intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself." Like facebook, twitter, youtube, college campuses, antifa, and any number of SJW, that attack conservatives in a attempt to silence their opinion.
When you want to discuss something other than robbing peter to fund paul for great social justice, there might be something worth listening to.
Taking the natural rights of others is also not a legit view point. That is called tyranny or fascism.
Natural rights include Life, Liberty, property, the pursuit but not guarantee of happiness. This extends to religious, property rights, self defence "lethal force, guns, knives, etc", and freedom to decide what is best for you, not a government agency doing that for you.
Feeling safe and not being offended are not rights.
"Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce that came to prominence in early 20th-century" - wikipedia
Remove nationalism and replace with globalism. You now have the lefts play book.
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I hope that someone has taught threedog's students not to trust someone just because he is in a position of authority, because if those kids are buying what he is selling, they are in for a rough life.
I hope that someone has taught threedog's students not to trust someone just because he is in a position of authority, because if those kids are buying what he is selling, they are in for a rough life.
He is the result of other "teachers" just like him.
"The Closing of the American Mind" by Alan Bloom is worth reading to understand how the left has intellectually "impoverished" students and stifled their critical thinking ability in our schools and universities.
(...and yes, I have read it.)
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Originally posted by randye: He is the result of other "teachers" just like him.
As dumb as the DUMBs are, they are pretty smart. They were able to co-opting the public education system from kindergarden, oops, pre-k, throughout high school. Not good enough, they even added Head Start. They even gained total control, almost, in the higher learning collages.
We can't blame threedog. He was indoctrinated. We are supposed to go to re-education camps.
The DUMBs also were successful in co-opting the media, even though they can not attract an audience on talk radio, hence Net Neutrality.
We, are, behind the eight ball. Just like when the DUMBs let Germany almost conquer Europe and beyond.
I am talking known truths. From mathematical equations, to defined terms and words. Truths that cannot be disputed.
I can stay away from a conversation regarding fantasy. Fine, have that little poser world. Spend a few moments there, but get back to reality, honestly perform duties paid towards you, and leave others alone. The folks that we are arguing with are not only insane, but they are also our neighbors. I just wish those neighbors would allow me to live my life. But no, I have to have internet stalkers, real life stalkers, court proceedings due to extreme liberal thought, shat sent to my home, being called racist and evil for living a very clean life, and so forth. Yet, I am the one that should keep a calm and cool head?
I may not be perfect, but there is no pizz on my toilet right now. I have worked hard to keep my name good, and not hide behind an avatar. I will not eat my own to survive.
Cliff, I like you, and if there is anything that I could ever do to make your life easier or happier, feel free to call upon me. You are my neighbor. A little insane, but a good neighbor non the less.
The Democrats wanted to do something for DACA and Trump wants the wall. Neither wants to give an inch. Trump was willing to let them write a law for DACA and said he could sign it...if they gave something on the wall. They refused anything so he retracted the offer. Democrats threw their chance away. Tough luck. They closed down the government to get their way and ended up opening it back without getting a single thing in return. They ended up just looking like the fools they are. I hope they either close the government down for an extended time or redo it every two weeks if they want. Its on them. Theyre a dying breed and have to have illegals and blacks to survive. They have never done anything good for either and just use it as a political fighting point.
Live your life for you, your ... family, for our Country, for God. For me.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tony Kania: I have worked hard to keep my name good, and not hide behind an avatar. I will not eat my own to survive.
Tony, I can't think of who it was. Someone credited his father for his success. He, the father, told the son, "I don't have much to leave you but my good name. Don't ruin it". That father gave his son something more valuable than gold !
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Originally posted by Tony Kania: Cliff, I like you, and if there is anything that I could ever do to make your life easier or happier, feel free to call upon me. You are my neighbor. A little insane, but a good neighbor non the less.
Now you just done it. Don't play kiss azz with me. I can not give you another positive. A little insane ? I am a full fledged card carrying lunatic, .
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The world is not black and white, the right is not always correct and neither is the left. I don't know how many times I have to say on this forum that there is a balance between the two parties that must be maintained in order for the country to move forward. Yet I get called out for "partisanship".
The honest truth is that you and your buddies here preach nothing but the republican party line, you claim everything the democrats do is bad and they are the biggest idiots and blah blah..then you yell at the first democrat you see and claim he is trying to divide us.
Look in the god damn mirror.
“Democrats currently hold fewer elected offices nationwide than at any time since the 1920s.”
The Progressives and extreme leftists have destroyed the Democratic party. Socialism has failed in every attempt since it was invented. And yet you cling to this philosophy?
You are the one who needs to look in the mirror. Your beliefs, while honorable, are simply untenable. IT DOES NOT WORK. (and NEVER has)
Mine included.
I do not yell at anyone. My gawd, is that the way you believe I live my life? You are VERY ignorant. 
Besides a Republican azzhole, I have taken care of my body since before high school. Longer than you have been on this planet. I know this concept escapes you, but it is what it is. Truthful. 
