"Ultimately, the Trump team decided against filing a formal request for military vehicles. Instead, they asked for multiple flyovers of fighter aircraft."
Earlier in the article, it states
"The month after Donald Trump won the presidential election, his staff asked the Pentagon to send photographs of military tactical vehicles that he could include in his inaugural parade,..."
So, more accurately, they thought about it, asked for pictures, found out it wasn't usually done and abandoned the idea without filing a formal request.
OK.
Sounds like some of that ' fake news'.
A G E N D A
Certainly not from an unbiased source like the Huffington Post.
How can we trust the President to tell us the truth when he lies on every little thing like this?
Sure Obama lied about a few things, Bush lied about a few others, but no one lies as much as this guy does..
Who is "this guy" ?
NOWHERE in that article YOU cited does it say that "Donald Trump lied".
Did you even bother to read it or did you just latch onto the headline and run with it ?
Trump’s Team Said It Didn’t Ask For Military Vehicles At Inauguration.
his staff asked the Pentagon The Presidential Inaugural Committee a Trump aide It’s not clear whether the aide was aware The author of the Dec. 13 email, whose name was redacted, The Pentagon typically works closely with presidential inaugural committees to plan the parades. Trump’s team floated Trump’s inaugural staff Trump’s inaugural planning committee
Good God kid! Save your histrionics for something that *actually happened*
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It looks like neither the HuffPoo nor the OP actually checked the facts before jumping to their conclusions. olejoedad did a great job at cutting to facts and exposing the lie that is that article and the original post.
How can we trust the President to tell us the truth when he lies on every little thing like this?
Sure Obama lied about a few things, Bush lied about a few others, but no one lies as much as this guy does..
My Lord, I wish you could back away from your bias and keep just a bit of an open mind.
I guess if it makes you feel better, go for it but, I suspect it won't do much more than another stress reliever like exercising.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
If you wish to upset a Conservative, lie to him. If you wish to upset a Liberal, tell him the truth.
Bush told some lies, Obama told nothing BUT lies. Trump has told some too.
Just locally, I see military vehicles all the time in Memorial Day and 4th of July parades. They have jeeps with 50 cals, trucks, half tracks and tanks (with rubber pads). I even participated in a few with my Bush Presidential armored limo. They have military fly overs at even Nascar events. Id have had no objection to them being used for the Presidential Parade. At an Ohio governors inauguration they had a whole squadron of Cobra gunships overfly the parade route.
"Can you send us some pictures of the military vehicles we could add to the parade?"
They were definitely asking about it. And if you read full context of the email, the author says
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...before we provide pictures which might be considered binding."
Had they responded by providing the photos they would have found themselves "bound" by them. That's a denied request. The only reason the Trump team didn't file a request officially, is because the pentagon official didn't respond with pictures.
Had they responded by providing the photos they would have found themselves "bound" by them. That's a denied request. The only reason the Trump team didn't file a request officially, is because the pentagon official didn't respond with pictures.
Serious question... can you admit for us for a minute, that you're a life-long Democrat and that you would have much rather a Democrat won? Once we get that question answered, it'll make all future discussions with you, easier, for most of us.
might1 mīt/Submit verb modal verb: might 1. past of may1, used especially. in reported speech, expressing possibility or permission. "he said he might be late" expressing a possibility based on a condition not fulfilled. "we might have won if we'd played better" expressing annoyance about something that someone has not done. "you might have told me!" expressing purpose. "he avoided social engagements so that he might work" 2. used in questions and requests. tentatively asking permission. "might I ask one question?" expressing a polite request. "you might just call me Jane, if you don't mind" asking for information, especially condescendingly. "and who might you be?" 3. used to express possibility or make a suggestion. "this might be true"
"might" is this case would be as defined in 1. above, as in might be late.
There is a difference in the English language between 'might' and 'will'.
Your position is untenable.
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Originally posted by Threedog: The Trump team requested:
Had they responded by providing the photos they would have found themselves "bound" by them. That's a denied request. The only reason the Trump team didn't file a request officially, is because the pentagon official didn't respond with pictures.
Great.
So in all of that, where did PRESIDENT TRUMP lie?
You claimed that *he* lied.
There isn't any way for you to weasel out of that by saying it was "context", "comprehension", "parsing" or anything else. Your claim was very clear and unambiguous:
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Originally posted by Threedog:
How can we trust the President to tell us the truth when he lies on every little thing like this?
Sure Obama lied about a few things, Bush lied about a few others, but no one lies as much as this guy does..
Honestly kid, you've had your rhetorical butt handed to you so many times around here, I'm thinking maybe you might want to glue a handle on it.
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I've noticed that it's ok to blame the actions of subordinates on the man in charge, but not always.
It just depends on whether the man in charge is the current guy or the previous guy.
Of course, the example has been set by the folks higher up. Watch a House or Senate hearing or committee meeting on CSpan.....
In this case it isn't even clear that the person(s) in question were/are even part of the actual administration. Much reference is made to the inquiry being made by the Inauguration Parade Committee. Let's see who was on the main inaugural committee:
Threedog, I gotta be honest, you're really reaching on this one. A request for information and pictures on what might be available for display or parade consideration and you consider that a request for it to actually happen? I'm still trying to figure out the lie accusation................
Let me ask you this, if I asked for the next chapter of what ever you teach and possible areas that I should study for an exam, would that be considered a request for an A grade? Or, would that be asking for information that might help me make a decision on what I should study?
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
The next thing you know, they'll be using motorized vehicles to mow down pedestrians. Wait, that's already happening. OK, ban vehicles......
If you wish to upset a Conservative, lie to him. If you wish to upset a Liberal, tell him the truth.
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Threedog, I gotta be honest, you're really reaching on this one. A request for information and pictures on what might be available for display or parade consideration and you consider that a request for it to actually happen? I'm still trying to figure out the lie accusation................
Let me ask you this, if I asked for the next chapter of what ever you teach and possible areas that I should study for an exam, would that be considered a request for an A grade? Or, would that be asking for information that might help me make a decision on what I should study?
The team wasn't studying for a bloody exam. The request was about what military vehicles could be available for the parade.
You don't ask for information about what would be on an exam, unless you're planning on taking it. Likewise, you wouldn't ask for information on what military vehicles would be available for a parade, if you don't want to have them in the parade.
The blame of asking the question isn't being placed on Trump. The blame of lying about the question having been asked, on Trump, when he was asked about it and denied, is.
Originally posted by Tony Kania: I really love following people around on the Internet and trying to stalk them. It's my favorite thing to do. It's even better when I keep telling them how much they don't matter, and nobody likes them. I really hope I can drive them to suicide, because that would make me really feel like a man, since I am incapable of cogent discussion with human beings who might have views which differ from my own hate filled vomiting defecation.
Yeah, that is totally how you are. Obsessive regressive indeed.
The team wasn't studying for a bloody exam. The request was about what military vehicles could be available for the parade.
You don't ask for information about what would be on an exam, unless you're planning on taking it. Likewise, you wouldn't ask for information on what military vehicles would be available for a parade, if you don't want to have them in the parade.
The blame of asking the question isn't being placed on Trump. The blame of lying about the question having been asked, on Trump, when he was asked about it and denied, is.
Bubba, First, the point is, asking for information is NOT the same as requesting the actual equipment. If you don't see the difference, I can explain it all day long but, I can't make you understand. It's a freek'n anology. Look it up.
Secondly, I didn't even suggest who the blame was placed on. But, I will thank you for not insulting myself or anyone else in this response.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
The next thing you know, they'll be using motorized vehicles to mow down pedestrians. Wait, that's already happening. OK, ban vehicles......
If you wish to upset a Conservative, lie to him. If you wish to upset a Liberal, tell him the truth.
Originally posted by dobey: The team wasn't studying for a bloody exam. The request was about what military vehicles could be available for the parade.
I guess you have never studied for a bloody exam. If you had half a brain cell you would know no request was made. Don't be a lemming believing everything your propaganda sources tell you. If anything it was but just an inquiry. A new Commander in Chief could order up any military vehicle he wished.
I ve requested all kinds of unclassified info on some AF planes I was building as scale R/C models...namely F4 and SR 71. They sent me what they could. ie/ pics of instrument panels so I could resize them to install in the models. They didnt send the FBI or CIA to check me out, or did they think I wanted to buy one.
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Originally posted by cliffw: I guess you have never studied for a bloody exam. If you had half a brain cell you would know no request was made. Don't be a lemming believing everything your propaganda sources tell you. If anything it was but just an inquiry. A new Commander in Chief could order up any military vehicle he wished.
Why do you insist on making life so hard ?
Seriously man. Are you on meth? Or are you really that illiterate? No, the President cannot order any military vehicle he wants to be anywhere he wants. That would be a dictatorship, not a President of a republic. Do you really not understand the difference here?
Originally posted by blackrams: Bubba, First, the point is, asking for information is NOT the same as requesting the actual equipment. If you don't see the difference, I can explain it all day long but, I can't make you understand. It's a freek'n anology. Look it up.
Secondly, I didn't even suggest who the blame was placed on. But, I will thank you for not insulting myself or anyone else in this response.
Bubba, Did you even read what I wrote there?
Do you know what the difference between intent and action are?
I very clearly stated that the request of information shows intent. I did not say that a request of information is the same as the act of requesting the vehicles. If you don't see the difference, I can explain it all day long, but I can't make you understand. English really is not this hard.
And yet, you still include your attacks in your signature, and in every single post you make on here.
Seriously man. Are you on meth? Or are you really that illiterate? No, the President cannot order any military vehicle he wants to be anywhere he wants. That would be a dictatorship, not a President of a republic. Do you really not understand the difference here?
Why do you insist on making life so hard?
Seriously? You don't think the Commander and Chief can order something like that? When it comes to the military, he is the BOSS.
That does not suggest he shouldn't listen to his military advisors. But, the caveat here is, up to the time he was actually sworn in, Donald J. Trump was not the President so.......................... I'm not really sure of the process but, I'd bet if requested by the President Elect, the "military" would do everything they could to comply.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
The next thing you know, they'll be using motorized vehicles to mow down pedestrians. Wait, that's already happening. OK, ban vehicles......
If you wish to upset a Conservative, lie to him. If you wish to upset a Liberal, tell him the truth.
Do you know what the difference between intent and action are?
I very clearly stated that the request of information shows intent. I did not say that a request of information is the same as the act of requesting the vehicles. If you don't see the difference, I can explain it all day long, but I can't make you understand. English really is not this hard.
And yet, you still include your attacks in your signature, and in every single post you make on here.
Intent or "Interest". You see Intent because you want to see "Intent". Yes, I agree, English isn't that hard. Please work at it. The signature is what it is. If it upsets you then, it might apply.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun....
The next thing you know, they'll be using motorized vehicles to mow down pedestrians. Wait, that's already happening. OK, ban vehicles......
If you wish to upset a Conservative, lie to him. If you wish to upset a Liberal, tell him the truth.
