Trump on hot mic: 'When you're a star ... you can do anything' to women
A decade before Donald Trump became the Republican nominee for president, his candid views on women were caught on tape. "I'm automatically attracted to beautiful women — I just start kissing them, it's like a magnet," Trump said in 2005 during a conversation with Billy Bush caught on audio during the taping of an interview for Access Hollywood. "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab 'em by the p****." Ten years later, Trump as a candidate and now as the Republican nominee has come under fire for insulting and directing crude language toward women. He's rejected such criticism repeatedly, insisting "nobody has more respect for women than me."
In the 2005 recording obtained by NBC News from Access Hollywood, Trump, then newly married to Melania Trump, spots a young woman through the bus window.
"Woah, woah," he said to Bush about the woman's appearance. "I gotta use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her." Earlier in the conversation, Trump recalls talking about trying to woo a married woman. "I moved on her actually, she was down in Palm Beach and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try to f*** her, she was married ... and I moved on her very heavily," Trump is heard saying.
"I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture and I told her 'I'll show you where you can get some nice furniture,'" Trump is heard saying. "I moved on her like a b****, and I could not get there, and she was married. And all the sudden I see her and she's got the big phony t***, she's totally changed her look." NBC News reached out to the Trump campaign for comment and has not heard back.
I've said it many times previously, I'm not a Trump fan. Today was my first day off in several days so, I didn't do a lot and caught quite a bit of the news when it was on. Interestingly, I heard and read a whole lot about this from our main stream media and yet heard little to nothing about the Wiki leaks release. A biased media maybe?
I'm also not making excuses for him. He has the mouth of a biker, sailor or pick out another group (generally speaking from all those I know). While this was an open mike conversation someone recorded, he still should not have said what was recorded. I know I've regretted some things that came out of my mouth before and hopefully learned from it. But, I don't live in a glass house and have most likely said things in private that I surely wouldn't want repeated in public even though, I messed up before. I'm betting, we all have. He's still a better choice than Clinton. Almost anyone is. Trump is by no means my first choice but, with the system in place, he's my only option.
If, he's ever proven to have lied, cheated, conned and gotten his people killed (edited, almost forgot about her email scandal) as Clinton has done, I'll vote 3rd party but, until then I'm in his camp. Anyone but Clinton, she should be in jail.... I posted this because I don't believe in running from a problem. I have no doubts one of our Liberal Clinton fans will be bringing it up. So, there it is............ Your perspective may be different but, Clinton is still a liar, cheat, con-person and got her own Ambassador and other's killed, not to forget the treason she committed in her emails and the "Clinton Foundation" Pay to Play crap.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
Definition of a home owner, "see the door threshold, without my permission, there and no futher.......
If, you wish to piss off a Conservative, lie to him. If, you wish to piss off a Socialist, Liberal or Progressive, tell them the truth.
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If he is saying what it takes to impress/convince people now, was he doing the same thing back then when he spouted this stuff?
I've met a few people who will spout whatever they think will make them more popular or some such, and when they catch on that it's having hte opposite effect, they quickly change their tune to match...it's totally fake. and they think it's just fine and dandy to do it. Of course, most politicians do that, they just tend to try to figure out the audience's preferences first, rather than step in it and then cry that it doesn't stink.
I'm getting depressed. Not because I think Hillary will be President. It's because once again, I feel that the media has picked our new President and even Mother Theresa would not have stood a chance had she had an R in front of her name. Yes, I know she's deceased. The media is all over every word Trump says and reports it as the most appalling thing they've ever heard and then brushes off much of what Hillary says. From Charlie Rose editing out three seconds of Bill Clinton's interview to CNN stating that Trump said "racial profiling" when he just said "profiling." Trump effs up plenty all on his own, but I can't help but think that the media is complicit in some of it. I'm still not voting for either one of them, but it's just depressing to see what our political system and media has come to.
His entire campaign has been a series of one "Open mouth, insert foot" moment after another.
As opposed to Hilda-beasts...keep lying until you dont know what the truth is anymore....
I dont for one second believe Trump is any more truthful and the wind-bag....its the ideals he is standing up for...The man has bankrupted more companies than I have had craps, is a loud-mouth ******* ........and believes in looking after himself
AND, he believes in getting rid of free trade, **** Mexico, **** Aisia...and **** the international trade---us 1st....Like I've been saying for---ohhhhh, 40 years ?
Ya know something, Donni...Maybe...just Maybe....all those black people <gasp> in Detroit could have their jobs back, and stuff would be built in America and Canada again....but, naw---lets just shoot and riot and burn stuff instead.
Trump is right....wanna run a corporation in America, then do it in America....wanna run one in Canada--then do it in Canada....dont like it, want to run one in china or mexico---the **** off and move there.
You know, the stuff that Trump says on the hot mic, is nothing more than what us bros do shooting the breeze.
I'm no angel or fake person. Myself and friends of mine will admit we can be some hound dogs and comment about women. We are just being dudes.
This makes me like Trump more, because its real. I don't like the fake that is presented by most politicians, such as what Hillary does with the planted people asking planted questions and the guarded life, and the handlers and the dog washers that she has to hide everything but the only to show her fake side.
I understand that people look at a President an expect a God, but you will never have one. So Trump being Trump with all the rowdy talk and off the cuff remarks. I actually like it. I like keeping it real.
Yeh...I do..Ayn Rand tought me, and I looked at him in the eyes every single morning and today has to be one inch better than yesterday was....swallow one more fear, push one inch further....
What the hell else would make a man stand in front of a charging stallion ?...or get in a fiberglass-wonder new from the factory and drive it to the limits 6000 feet in the air ? Fear ?...its something to be swallowed, turned into aggression, and used...
Nope, sir, my "Gods" are the same as my forefathers, and the same (or close to) the native Americans....we dont "bow" to them, or give them any bent knee---thats for middle-eastern gods and the church....ask for guidance, and you might get it....amazing how nature works if you listen, the woods are not your enemy, and a snake only bites if you step on it...(Spiders, OK--that one hurt). Nothing wrong with taking aim, then NOT shooting, why kill if you dont need to....
I'm not interested in fighting nature, I've still got a LOT to learn from the great spirit.....but some Roman empire and mideavl tales about a dead jew....created when rome thought the world was flat ?......
Yeh......no thanks. I got my own ideas on beliefs.....and none of it comes from the middle east or Isreal or ice-lam....I'm with Steve....
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I just say so what. Every guy has 'locker room' talk and bravado experience. I dont see saying something 10 years ago as having anything to do with anything myself. Obuma smoked pot in college, and I bet ugly Hillary had unprotected sex in college too. No one is perfect, except democrats in democrats eyes. Im sure every guy on here, maybe gals too, have at one time told someone they were going to kill someone...maybe even in grade school. So he said he wanted to fk Nancy O'Dell. Id do her too. I can name 20 other stars Id like to have too. Get over it.
His entire campaign has been a series of one "Open mouth, insert foot" moment after another.
This I'll agree with to a great extent, he's been his own worst enemy many times.
That doesn't mean I don't believe the major media hasn't focused more on Trump's screw ups than it has on Clinton's lies, actions and traitorous acts.
I also know that I can't run for office, can you? I have most assuredly been involved in "locker room" conversations that may have been recorded. Have you?
Trump has never been my favorite candidate but, he'll get my vote long before Clinton. Heck, I don't even like Trump.
That says a lot about how I feel about Clinton.
Edited: Has anyone heard a word from Bill Clinton on this? Seems to me, all those folks who defended Bill then ought to be standing tall with Donald now. Most likely won't be seeing that though. ------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
Definition of a home owner, "see the door threshold, without my permission, there and no futher.......
If, you wish to piss off a Conservative, lie to him. If, you wish to piss off a Socialist, Liberal or Progressive, tell them the truth.
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You know, the stuff that Trump says on the hot mic, is nothing more than what us bros do shooting the breeze.
I'm no angel or fake person. Myself and friends of mine will admit we can be some hound dogs and comment about women. We are just being dudes.
Maybe, iv had friends iv heard say some pretty vulgar things about women, personally iv never been that way, maybe because i grew up with just my mom and my sister most of my childhood.. Not that i have never said a passing comment when i saw a nice looking woman, usually something like "wow she's a hottie".. Or something similar, but never to types of things iv heard my friends say, or anything like what Trump said.
For me what bothers me about the things Trump said was not the words he used, but the context in what he said. First he literally admitted to attempting to cheat on his wife, and you can tell by what he said, that just because hes famous, he believes he can pretty much do the things he said and get away with it, you get to really see his mindset when it comes to women. So this, combined with all the other things hes gotten caught saying about women, its pretty obvious he does not hold women in high standing, thinking of them more as objects than people. And its not like these where the words of some young immature kid in his 20's shooting his mouth off, this was, at the time, a 60 year old man, if this recording had been from when he was a young man just out of college or even in his 30's, id brush it off as just a immature dumb kid shooting his mouth off, but not a 60 year old man with daughters of his own. Of course he comes out and states that "he's not like that anymore", im sorry, but as i said before, he was a 60 year old man, when you reach that age, you are who you are, and the idea that now that he's 70 and running for president his views on woman have taken a total 180 and he fully respects them now is just total B.S.. But it sure as hell does not make me "like him more".. All it does is deepen the fact that hes a complete scum bag.
Just my opinion on the matter..
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What would you do if your 18 year old daughter told you some guy grabbed her by the *****? Would you excuse it as just "guy stuff"?
Precisely what I did when my 18 year old daughter came home and told her mom that she kicked her boyfriend's ass for not understanding what No meant. I asked her if I needed to get involved. She didn't think so. He hasn't been back since then.
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Originally posted by Boondawg: Both these candidates are absolutely the worst kind of people. We get exactly what we deserve...☠️
Neither candidate would be my choice for the office but, I honestly can't say Trump is worse than Bill Clinton. Trump is simply the lessor of evils for me in this election cycle. I wish there was another viable choice but, there isn't. ------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
Definition of a home owner, "see the door threshold, without my permission, there and no futher.......
If, you wish to piss off a Conservative, lie to him. If, you wish to piss off a Socialist, Liberal or Progressive, tell them the truth.
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What gets me is that the press is now all over this, and will work it into the ground, but all the stuff that's been reported about Hillary (her obscene rants - directed at her SS detail, and her "shaming" of Bill's rape victims, both come to mind) will continue to get a "pass".
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To give the man credit, he stood up and accepted responsibility, apologized and said there will be further discussion of the subject. Very different than the parsing of words, denial in the face of evidence and laughing it off, as we have seen from other American leaders. This election cycle has highlighted the downward spiral of our society; the lesser of two evils is not a good place for America to be at.
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters" - Donald Trump
That's probably still true. It's not about how good Trump is, it's about how bad Hillary Clinton is........................
I don't know a single person who thinks Trump is the very best person to serve as President and yet, I know a bunch who'll vote for him over Clinton.
I doubt Trump will win but, there is no way I can vote for that traitorous witch. IF she wins, I'm sure she'll need a few Ambassador positions filled, are you interested?
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
Definition of a home owner, "see the door threshold, without my permission, there and no futher.......
If, you wish to piss off a Conservative, lie to him. If, you wish to piss off a Socialist, Liberal or Progressive, tell them the truth.
IF she wins, I'm sure she'll need a few Ambassador positions filled, are you interested?
I have said repeatedly that I am not supporting hillary. I doubt she will offer me a position WHEN she is president.
I only pointed out that trump was vorrect. He could do anything and his supporters would deflect, deny or even blindly accept. Don't shoot the messenger... unless you are trump.
I have said repeatedly that I am not supporting hillary. I doubt she will offer me a position WHEN she is president.
I only pointed out that trump was vorrect. He could do anything and his supporters would deflect, deny or even blindly accept. Don't shoot the messenger... unless you are trump.
Hmm, I didn't even get the guns out. I doubt mine have sufficient range to get your attention anyway.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
Definition of a home owner, "see the door threshold, without my permission, there and no futher.......
If, you wish to piss off a Conservative, lie to him. If, you wish to piss off a Socialist, Liberal or Progressive, tell them the truth.
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"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab 'em by the p****."
So which part of that statement was offensive?
was it the "they let you" or "Grab 'em by the P...."
And Please don't tell me that Bill & Hillary Clinton do not agree with that statement. Hillary doesn't blame Bill. She thinks women just threw themselves all her husband because of his power and popularity to get a peace of his fame.
To give the man credit, he stood up and accepted responsibility, apologized and said there will be further discussion of the subject. Very different than the parsing of words, denial in the face of evidence and laughing it off, as we have seen from other American leaders. This election cycle has highlighted the downward spiral of our society; the lesser of two evils is not a good place for America to be at.
A far cry from "What difference does it make?"
Trump is a jerk, there's no question. I don't think as many people have died because of him as Hillary, though.
Trump is a jerk, there's no question. I don't think as many people have died because of him as Hillary, though.
I agree There is a huge difference between insensitive and dishonest. especially in the role(s) in which it occurred. As a private citizen, Trump's insensitivity is disappointing and embarrassing even though I think it is a very common part of what humans do. Hillary has been the 1st lady, senator, secretary or state and now a nominee for President of the United States. In her roles, I find the deception that she practices when dealing with the people she seeks to leads, Unacceptable. I do have to agree that as a nominee Trump must rise above the past flexibility afforded a private citizen and become a mindful example worthy of the role POTUS . I am pleased with the quick and clear acceptance of ownership and responsibility delivered by Trump on this matter. Something Hillary fails to do until she has exhausted her usual list of Denial, Excuses and Blame.
Trump is a jerk, there's no question. I don't think as many people have died because of him as Hillary, though.
Yeah well, as much as I dislike Clinton, Clinton supporters have more to lose if Trump gets elected and they fear that. I mean really, freebies is freebies. Let someone else pay for...................... Well, everything.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?
Definition of a home owner, "see the door threshold, without my permission, there and no futher.......
If, you wish to piss off a Conservative, lie to him. If, you wish to piss off a Socialist, Liberal or Progressive, tell them the truth.
I mean really, freebies is freebies. Let someone else pay for...................... Well, everything.
Yeh...well...niehter of us have much room to talk in that area....wanna know the fuel and ammo costs between us we have burned off ???....I've run some of those credit cards in FBO's.....and the fuel sure as hell wasn't coming out of the pilots pockets...on a Lear 25 he works for wally-world, sleeps in a van in the parking lot, and I made twice what he did for doing ground service and fueling......and the trucks or training didn't come out of my pocket either....Esso, Shell and the government of Canada paid for that...come to think of it, the only "education" I ever got for free was courtesy of the Native Americans....and they spent a whole lot of time teaching what NOT to do......
I have said repeatedly that I am not supporting hillary. I doubt she will offer me a position WHEN she is president.
I only pointed out that trump was vorrect. He could do anything and his supporters would deflect, deny or even blindly accept. Don't shoot the messenger... unless you are trump.
What is interesting is that Hillary condemns Trump but is married to a man very much the same morals and ethics. Last I hear Trump had not been caught having sex with a young woman in the oral I mean oval office. Didn't Bill deny the whole incident by swearing his innocence to the entire nation? Then when he was caught she forgave him. This speaks volumes about her morals. What an example to set for her daughter. Lets not even get into white water. The Clinton presidency was like having the Jerry Springer show in the white house. Hil liar y know nothing of morals.
Deflection... I am not talking about hillary... is this topic about her? Nope.
But, thanks as you proved my point. Trump supporters will not waiver, no matter what he does or says.
Lol. This isn't a "No matter what" moment. This is a guy talking to another guy about things guys talk about.
But you are kinda right. I don't care what Trump says. I want the system to be destroyed. I want the "Bull in a China Shop" President. Electing more of the same hasn't worked in my lifetime. I'm not going to continue supporting Professional Politician Lawyers.
And I don't think I'm alone. There are a lot of people like me that are tired of the games. We are giving different a chance. We want a President that has the balls to tell someone to STFU from time to time. We want someone that isn't sold to the highest bidder.
Why cant you run Blackrams ? I could run and so can anyone born American. Apparently even a felon can. All you need is financial backing and someone willing to support you. You dont need any kind of experience like in another job. You dont need any training. Just get enough votes to win and appoint people to do all the decision making for you.
My 18 year old daughter can take care of herself, dont need a daddy to do it for her. Women get grabbed all the time and usually the grabber pays the price. Trump is right again though...celebrities can get away with anything they want. Hillary is a perfect example. Any of us would be in Leavenworth for doing anything that shes done. Phil Spector got away with it for decades till he finally killed one. I would even go so far as to say, some of his 'victims' probably bragged to friends about it.
Why cant you run Blackrams ? I could run and so can anyone born American. Apparently even a felon can. All you need is financial backing and someone willing to support you. You dont need any kind of experience like in another job. You dont need any training. Just get enough votes to win and appoint people to do all the decision making for you.
My 18 year old daughter can take care of herself, dont need a daddy to do it for her. Women get grabbed all the time and usually the grabber pays the price. Trump is right again though...celebrities can get away with anything they want. Hillary is a perfect example. Any of us would be in Leavenworth for doing anything that shes done. Phil Spector got away with it for decades till he finally killed one. I would even go so far as to say, some of his 'victims' probably bragged to friends about it.
Roger...I'll support Ron for Prez...just because he is stupid enough to fly helicopters.....
I've been in Canada's far north, and while your jets and my prop airplanes might get us in and out of places....when the defecation hits the rotary oscillator....it's him you are askin to get there fast....Not god...some guy with a helicopter around him....
Labrador...aint tried that yet....I said yet....
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I see the next presidential election with new candidates being even worse than this one as people's lives become more and more recorded for all to see and/or hear. No one is perfect and no one will parse every single word that comes out of their mouths or text that comes from their thumbs. Everyone has skeletons in their closet or things from their past they'd rather not talk about or remember. If we're only going to accept perfection for the President, then the oval office will forever remain empty I'm afraid. That being said, there's expecting perfection and then there's getting the slop that both parties have tried to hand us this year. Someone who will f**k everything up from inexperience and bombasticness, or someone who will f**k it all up in order to get more money and power for themselves. A decent 3rd candidate would have had such a great chance this year.
Seems to me, all those folks who defended Bill then ought to be standing tall with Donald now. Most likely won't be seeing that though. 
