There are people who wish he was dead. There are people on this list who can't even call the man by his name. That is not criticizing policies, that is true disrespect and hatred. They blame Obama for everything they disagree with. Facts are ignored.
And nobody ever did that with Bush 43?
Have you heard what some liberal members of the media said on twitter and in other social media postings about the passing of Scalia? Some very hateful comments. Couldn't even wait for the guy to be buried.
So don't lecture me about disrespect and hatred unless you are going to lecture them about it too.
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LOL! Yes people disrespected bush. I agree with you. I am not sure why you are deflecting with bush. Is he running for office or currently in office? Oh, you think I hated bush... Too funny! Now you are deflecting with Scilia. I don't support those people either. Sorry you failed. Feel free to lecture others, but you can't tell me what to do, because they are liberal wackos like the right wackos here! They won't listen.
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Originally posted by Darth Fiero:
And nobody ever did that with Bush 43?
Have you heard what some liberal members of the media said on twitter and in other social media postings about the passing of Scalia? Some very hateful comments. Couldn't even wait for the guy to be buried.
So don't lecture me about disrespect and hatred unless you are going to lecture them about it too.
Well that's just because I can't stand Hillary and the republican offerings are less than desirable. I worry that the republican party is killing itself. It's not the same republican party that I've supported in the past. Both parties suck as far as I'm concerned. I don't agree with everything that Bernie represents but I believe that he is one of very few honest politicians.
He's made no secret that he intends to take wealth from rightful owners and redistribute to those who have not earned or worked for it. Most people call that theft. You have a more politically correct name for it?
LOL! Yes people disrespected bush. I agree with you. I am not sure why you are deflecting with bush. Is he running for office or currently in office? Oh, you think I hated bush... Too funny! Now you are deflecting with Scilia. I don't support those people either. Sorry you failed. Feel free to lecture others, but you can't tell me what to do, because they are liberal wackos like the right wackos here! They won't listen.
Who deflected first? YOU were the one that made the comment that people were disrespecting Obama. I responded to that by asking why you didn't comment about people disrespecting Bush 43 or Scalia, since you only seemed concerned about people disrespecting Obama. Then you went off on some unintelligible rant telling me I failed and I can't tell you what to do, etc etc.
He's made no secret that he intends to take wealth from rightful owners and redistribute to those who have not earned or worked for it. Most people call that theft. You have a more politically correct name for it?
Oh. I guess you have not seen the ads making fun of people then.
It isn't theft or socialism it is democratic socialism. Get with the times old man!
You're so old fashioned you probably think misleading people is the same as lying. Like it's a bad thing too.
He's made no secret that he intends to take wealth from rightful owners and redistribute to those who have not earned or worked for it. Most people call that theft. You have a more politically correct name for it?
Bernie is one of those people who has no problem with you or Trump turning you investments into billions of dollars, he only thinks it's a crime if you try to keep it.
There is nothing worse than a thief who justifies their taking of your money as charity for others while calling you the thief. Oh, wait a minute there is something worse. A politician elected to represent the people who robs the majority in order to dispense fairness as they define it.
You have a more politically correct name for it? Social Justice, Not that I agree, but it is the politically correct name for State Sponsored thievery.... IMO
He's made no secret that he intends to take wealth from rightful owners and redistribute to those who have not earned or worked for it. Most people call that theft. You have a more politically correct name for it?
While the lionization of Scalia shifts into high gear......
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Scalia’s Resort Trip Was Gifted By a ‘Friend’ Who Had Business Before the Supreme Court
It’s now been revealed that the luxury hunting ranch vacation Antonin Scalia was on when he died was a gift from someone who Scalia indirectly helped with a recent Supreme Court decision.
In late 2015, the Supreme Court declined to hear an age discrimination suit (Hinga, James V. Mic Group, LLC) against a subsidiary of the manufacturing company J.B. Poindexter, which is owned by John B. Poindexter. Poindexter also owns the 30,000-acre Cibolo Creek Ranch in Shafter, Texas, where Scalia was vacationing when he died last weekend. According to the Washington Post, Scalia didn’t pay for his flight to the ranch, or for his room at the luxury ranch. His food and beverages were also free. Poindexter maintains that Scalia wasn’t given any preferential treatment, as the 36 people staying at the ranch that weekend were all staying for free.
However, the Post also reports that lingering questions remain about who else was staying at the ranch, and whether or not Poindexter or any of the ranch’s guests were trying to curry favor with the late Justice:
The nature of Poindexter’s relationship with Scalia remained unclear Tuesday, one of several lingering questions about his visit. It was not known whether Scalia had paid for his own ticket to fly to the ranch or if someone else picked up the tab, just as it was not immediately clear if Scalia had visited before.
It is also still not known who else was at the Texas ranch for the weekend, and unless that is revealed, there could be concerns about who could have tried to raise an issue around Scalia, said Stephen Gillers, who teaches legal and judicial ethics at the New York University School of Law. He compared it to unease that arises when judges and officials from major companies are invited to seminars or educational events that bring them together for periods of time.
During Justice Scalia’s tenure on the nation’s highest court, an astonishing number of decisions favored corporate plaintiffs and defendants, prompting the New York Times to call it the most corporate-friendly court since the World War II era. An op-ed in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution called the current Supreme Court — which, including Scalia, had the conservative majority of Roberts-Alito-Thomas-Scalia-Kennedy deciding cases in favor of big business — an “enforcer of corporate power.” The op-ed cited a professional statistical review that examined the results of over 2,000 cases:
The study published in the Minnesota Law Review ranked the 36 justices who have served in the post-WWII era in terms of how corporate-friendly their rulings have been. Not surprisingly, the five conservative members of the current high court all ranked in the top 10 most business-friendly justices to serve in that era. Four of the six most business-friendly justices now serve on the court.
In late 2015, the Supreme Court declined to hear an age discrimination suit (Hinga, James V. Mic Group, LLC) against a subsidiary of the manufacturing company J.B. Poindexter, which is owned by John B. Poindexter.
How does that work? Exactly who, within SCOTUS makes that decision? If a single justice (1 of 9) says they don't want to hear the case, does that mean the high court won't review it?
The inference in that article is that the ranch visit may have been in appreciation of SCOTUS not reviewing litigation.... Did Poindexter bribe Scalia before the fact, with a measly $300 plane fare--iow, did he promise the judge directly or indirectly, before the case got to the high court, that he would buy him a plane fare and allow visitation to the ranch?
Hinga lost his case at the lower court because he failed to prove his case. After costing his company $194,000, I don't blame them for getting rid of him.
He also lost in the District Court before it got to the SCOTUS.
He's made no secret that he intends to take wealth from rightful owners and redistribute to those who have not earned or worked for it. Most people call that theft. You have a more politically correct name for it?
The accepted parlance is "Redistribution of Wealth". A false parity system that sounds just peachy if you're on the correct end of the chain.
Yer one of them dirty one percenters! The Evil Rich who won't help Working Families, and who hoard their Billions of Dollars in investment income.
Come on! Robin Hood was a noble guy. From those with means to those with needs. It's only fair. Yes We Can.
And with your interpretation, you these areas to spread... the US to be a 3rd world country. Interesting.... might as well hand the keys to the Russians.
So you support stripping unalienable rights from states and people, to get the comfort you feel entitled to?
Speaking of disrespect, our president isn't even going to Scalia's funeral. It is tradition for the sitting president to attend the funeral for high federal government officials who die in office - out of respect for the deceased and the office they occupied. This has been common practice for sitting presidents even if they don't agree with the deceased person politically.
Bernie is one of those people who has no problem with you or Trump turning you investments into billions of dollars, he only thinks it's a crime if you try to keep it.
There is nothing worse than a thief who justifies their taking of your money as charity for others while calling you the thief. Oh, wait a minute there is something worse. A politician elected to represent the people who robs the majority in order to dispense fairness as they define it.
You have a more politically correct name for it? Social Justice, Not that I agree, but it is the politically correct name for State Sponsored thievery.... IMO
I never cared much for political correctness or the taste of feces on my lips from kissing some politician's rear end. Thievery is still thieving no matter how much lipstick is smeared on it.
As I said... people just hate Obama (in your eyes, he can't do anything right)...
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Originally posted by Darth Fiero: Speaking of disrespect, our president isn't even going to Scalia's funeral. It is tradition for the sitting president to attend the funeral for high federal government officials who die in office - out of respect for the deceased and the office they occupied. This has been common practice for sitting presidents even if they don't agree with the deceased person politically.
"Mr. Obama and his wife, Michelle, will pay their respects by visiting the Supreme Court on Friday, when Justice Scalia will lie in repose in the Great Hall. Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., who is Catholic — as was Justice Scalia — and had a personal relationship with him and his family, will attend the funeral on Saturday at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception along with his wife, Jill."
"But Ed Whelan, the president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, who once clerked for Justice Scalia and shares the same faith, said that Mr. Obama made the right decision. Mr. Whelan emphasized that traditional Catholic funerals are deeply religious affairs during which even eulogies are discouraged.
'For Catholics, a funeral Mass is first and foremost a funeral, not an event of state,' Mr. Whelan said."
"Four out of the past seven funerals for a Supreme Court justice have either had the president or vice president in attendance. Former President George W. Bush attended the funeral for Chief Justice William Rehnquist. Former President Bill Clinton attended the funerals for former Chief Justice Warren E. Burger and Justice William Brennan but did not attend the funerals for Justices Harry Blackmun or Lewis F. Powell Jr. Former Vice President Al Gore attended the funeral for Justice Thurgood Marshall. "
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I'm not sure if you are commenting about the media, or PFF?
We can talk about two things at once, no prob.
Seems like we have an issue with both.
Just review this topic.. Some don't care how Scilia died and they say it is none of our business.. others, like below want to shift the topic to Obama.
All within this one topic... all here for you to see.
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Originally posted by Darth Fiero:
Speaking of disrespect, our president isn't even going to Scalia's funeral. It is tradition for the sitting president to attend the funeral for high federal government officials who die in office - out of respect for the deceased and the office they occupied. This has been common practice for sitting presidents even if they don't agree with the deceased person politically.
Speaking of disrespect, our president isn't even going to Scalia's funeral. It is tradition for the sitting president to attend the funeral for high federal government officials who die in office - out of respect for the deceased and the office they occupied. This has been common practice for sitting presidents even if they don't agree with the deceased person politically.
Your right there too. Obuma usually dont even attend events, like funerals, for any foreign dignitaries or heads of state either. He 'sends' someone to stand in for himself.
There are people who wish he was dead. There are people on this list who can't even call the man by his name. That is not criticizing policies, that is true disrespect and hatred.
Personally, I don't even know barak husane obama, and have no issue with him outside of politics. None that I know of? He is a liberal, and a closest racist and a wishy-washy Christian (maybe not even Christian at all?). But I know many people like this and we still get along fine. It is just not worth fighting over.
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They blame Obama for everything they disagree with. Facts are ignored.
Blame obama, yes I guess I do place blame on him for contributing to the worsening racial tension in America, and a growing debt, and poor Global relations and on and on. Accually he is the pinnacle of pathetic excuses for a politician. ALL facts considered.
Blame obama, yes I guess I do place blame on him for contributing to the worsening racial tension in America, and a growing debt, and poor Global relations and on and on. Accually he is the pinnacle of pathetic excuses for a politician. ALL facts considered.
Worsen racial tensions? These things have been simmering for a long time and it doesn't help when you have blacks being killed by police officers (again), in the news. Also, you are forgetting the rise of social media, which bypasses the traditional media. We have never see such immediate access to information, before this (before Obama). Global relations? What exactly don't you like? We are getting out of the middle east, finally. Debt? Congress controls the purse strings.
Worsen racial tensions? These things have been simmering for a long time and it doesn't help when you have blacks being killed by police officers (again), in the news. Also, you are forgetting the rise of social media, which bypasses the traditional media. We have never see such immediate access to information, before this (before Obama). Global relations? What exactly don't you like? We are getting out of the middle east, finally. Debt? Congress controls the purse strings.
You have proven my point.
All you have proven is that you support him (at least more than I do) and I don't support him. Reasons for the support and lack there of... could be many. Bottom line is the same facts we both use to assess his job performance are still filtered through our opinions of him, or political points of view. To just say we are on opposite sides of a political spectrum does not prove the point you listed. And I have no doubt that we will not bridge our differences in this thread. We just see this differently.
You are quick to point out that politically I apposed obama, but totally ignored that I said I don't hate him. I would have a drink with him any day, but would avoid talking politics with him.
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You are rating his performance on what exactly? This part of my point. Doesn't matter what Obama does, he is blamed. As for supporting Obama... nope, but I look beyond just blaming him. He is a small part of what is going on and there are many players. Do you give him credit for the rebound of the economy? Or the lowering of Oil prices (I know, he doesn't have anything to do with it, but he has been blaming for increasing oil prices)? When "bad" things happen, he is blamed and when good things happen, someone else is awarded.
You may not hate him, but there are many, many others who do. There are people out there (not saying you are one) who think he is in office to bring about a black uprising, or socialism (which by definition, he is not). There are people who truly hate this man, not just because of his political views but because of his upbringing and the color of his skin. That is scary.
I would meet with any President. Heck, what an opportunity!
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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
All you have proven is that you support him (at least more than I do) and I don't support him. Reasons for the support and lack there of... could be many. Bottom line is the same facts we both use to assess his job performance are still filtered through our opinions of him, or political points of view. To just say we are on opposite sides of a political spectrum does not prove the point you listed. And I have no doubt that we will not bridge our differences in this thread. We just see this differently.
You are quick to point out that politically I apposed obama, but totally ignored that I said I don't hate him. I would have a drink with him any day, but would avoid talking politics with him.
