I have been reading how any hyper velocity 1400+ fps can be damaging to older model 22s, such as the Marlin Model 60 or 795. I also read advice against using it in replacement non factory 10/22's.

What say you?

I have an old model 60 Marlin that I must have shot thousands of rounds threw I bought about 30 years ago, I used to use CCI mini mags all the time, in over 30 years the only thing that ever broke was the recoil stop block I think it's called that plastic block behind the firing pin block and after 30 year the firing pin.

Steve

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[This message has been edited by 84fiero123 (edited 01-19-2016).]

Which .22LR round are you using that is rated at 1400 fps?
There are only a handful of makes that will reach that velocity other than the already mentioned CCI mini Mag
CCI Stinger, CCI quik shok, Rem Yellow Jacket, and Aguilla Super Max are the only ones I'm familiar with.

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My question is, where can you go these days to fire even something as small as a .22?
Hell even .177 pellet rifles are banned in my city, and I only shoot at targets!!

I'd like to find a place where I can fuss and play with a simple pellet rifle, without having a swat team drop on me.

Edit,
And no I don't want to have to beg to join a Sportmans club to do the same. $500 a year to go to a range 30 miles away to shoot a pellet rifle? WTH!!
Oh and that's only if I get a sponsor.. There was a time I could just go to a gravel pit and plink away with up to a 12ga without anyone getting their kinckers in a bunch.

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quote Originally posted by Uaana: My question is, where can you go these days to fire even something as small as a .22? Hell even .177 pellet rifles are banned in my city, and I only shoot at targets!! I'd like to find a place where I can fuss and play with a simple pellet rifle, without having a swat team drop on me. Edit, And no I don't want to have to beg to join a Sportmans club to do the same. $500 a year to go to a range 30 miles away to shoot a pellet rifle? WTH!! Oh and that's only if I get a sponsor.. There was a time I could just go to a gravel pit and plink away with up to a 12ga without anyone getting their kinckers in a bunch.

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quote Originally posted by Uaana: My question is, where can you go these days to fire even something as small as a .22?

I go to a regular indoor shooting range at my local gun dealer. .22 Long Rifle is allowed even from a proper rifle as well as anything from a handgun.

OP: what does Marlin say about the subject? I would be wary of internet gun experts. I've read some funny stuff coming from people when asked about types of ammo.

For my old Sears and Roebuck .22LR I use any old high velocity (~1000 fps) ammo I can find. Since the CCI Velocitor and Stinger and Mini-Mags are running .12-.14 each it's kind of defeating the purpose of a cheap plinker to use these rounds. Unless you are hunting?

quote Originally posted by Hudini: I go to a regular indoor shooting range at my local gun dealer. .22 Long Rifle is allowed even from a proper rifle as well as anything from a handgun. Since the CCI Velocitor and Stinger and Mini-Mags are running .12-.14 each it's kind of defeating the purpose of a cheap plinker to use these rounds. Unless you are hunting?

Even at those prices they are cheaper, maybe half the cost if not less of any center fire ammo.

I also do as Don, just step out my back door, but I do have to be 100 yards from the road that goes by my place, I have to be 100 yards from any road. But I have 25 acres and have plenty of places to target shoot, Call a local farmer come spring planting, as a kid a bunch of us of local kids with 22s would get a nickel for each Crow we shot, just had to hang them up on a fence line to get paid.

I think if memory serves me 22s back then, over 45 years ago were only like 2 cents each for regular rounds anyway. I think mini mags came out years later.

quote Originally posted by Uaana: My question is, where can you go these days to fire even something as small as a .22? Hell even .177 pellet rifles are banned in my city, and I only shoot at targets!! I'd like to find a place where I can fuss and play with a simple pellet rifle, without having a swat team drop on me. Edit, And no I don't want to have to beg to join a Sportmans club to do the same. $500 a year to go to a range 30 miles away to shoot a pellet rifle? WTH!! Oh and that's only if I get a sponsor.. There was a time I could just go to a gravel pit and plink away with up to a 12ga without anyone getting their kinckers in a bunch.

Or you could just call the local police department and ask if they have a range available for private people, most are more than happy to let you use their range, rather than have you shooting someplace you shouldn't be, but bring ear plugs, just in case the cops are there as well, even just a 9 or 38 is dam loud inside a building. Our local police have a outside range with a Hogan's ally type set up with a building and everything and if I asked I am sure they would let me use it, guess where it is? Just a couple hundred yards from the town dump, remember the days you could go to the local dump on Sundays and shoot rats to your hearts content all day long.

So do you know anyone who lives in the country outside of town? But for the pellet/BB guns as a kid we used to just shoot in the basement, MEM has had threads about his basement ranges and target setups.

Steve

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From the reading I've done, high velocity 22's aren't supposed to be used in very early guns, usually 1920's and earlier. I've got a savage sporter made between 1935-42 and has no issues with regular and high velocity ammo. Usually you can research the gun you've got to see if the action is strong enough. The metal used at the turn of the century was a bit softer and will eventually damage it. Being the marlin 60 started being made in the 60's, I'd have no doubt about its strength.

quote Originally posted by Uaana: My question is, where can you go these days to fire even something as small as a .22? Hell even .177 pellet rifles are banned in my city, and I only shoot at targets!!

Laws of that nature are common. Even slingshots were banned here, and due to a failure to clarify definitions, even a child's suction cup bow and arrow was illegal if someone reported it being discharged. They did just recently amend the ordinance to allow the firing of any weapon for the purpose of hunting or target practice as long as the point of discharge is at least 150 feet from any public roadway. There is no requirement for minimum distance from an occupied structure. I would love to be able to safely target practice within the city, but other than my own property, there's no place since I would need permission from the property owner.

This was taken from my back door. Notice the small clump of hedges at the rear center and the houses and utility building in the background? That meets the city's minimum requirements. I'm in a subdivision of over 140 homes on one acre lots. Since we have deer and turkey and have had an occasional bear in my back yard, as long as I have a license, I can hunt from that clump of hedges. Legally. Unless you have a couple of acres, you really don't want just anyone to be able to shoot at rabbits or squirrels in their yard. They may not be as safe and proficient as you.

quote Originally posted by Uaana: My question is, where can you go these days to fire even something as small as a .22? Hell even .177 pellet rifles are banned in my city, and I only shoot at targets!! I'd like to find a place where I can fuss and play with a simple pellet rifle, without having a swat team drop on me. Edit, And no I don't want to have to beg to join a Sportmans club to do the same. $500 a year to go to a range 30 miles away to shoot a pellet rifle? WTH!! Oh and that's only if I get a sponsor.. There was a time I could just go to a gravel pit and plink away with up to a 12ga without anyone getting their kinckers in a bunch.

I shoot my pellet riffles in my backyard. I live in the city. THOUSANDS of rounds.

Just set up a range in the basement. If the basement is finished decide which you like more, a range or a rec room.

quote Originally posted by 84fiero123: I have an old model 60 Marlin that I must have shot thousands of rounds threw I bought about 30 years ago, I used to use CCI mini mags all the time, in over 30 years the only thing that ever broke was the recoil stop block I think it's called that plastic block behind the firing pin block and after 30 year the firing pin. Steve

I believe Mini Mags are High velocity, but not Hyper.
That recoil stop is the part that is said to take the most abuse.

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quote Originally posted by 2.5: I have been reading how any hyper velocity 1400+ fps can be damaging to older model 22s, such as the Marlin Model 60 or 795. I also read advice against using it in replacement non factory 10/22's.

Could be... Basically is about jamming 22 Magnum pressure in 22LR ammo.

HV loads are equivalent to "+P" or "+P+" ammo that can cause problems for many normal guns not just "old" 22LR guns. Example: In Semi Auto guns, Recoil Springs are setup for ammo used. Ammo making more pressure then gun is design for often causes failures. At minimum, can wear out major parts fast.

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