Sorry, but arm chair quarter backs are having a heyday over this lion and giraffe shat. People cannot get enough of the next shiny thing.
No one gave a damn before. Good job caring now though. So warm and fuzzy. The "Plastic Media" has everyone sad over a lion that most never even heard of before this media circus. I agree that it is not pretty, but legal is legal. If any animal is poached, criminals should suffer fines much stiffer than now. I would easily vote for a lifetime hinting ban for poachers.
Animals are often killed for sport. Regulation hunting is 100% agreeable with me. I will let those that pass out hunting licenses be the judge of animal management in their particular area.
"Plastic media" - good one!
On a side note, it's funny how so many get so upset over the killing of an "innocent" Lion or Giraffe but they could care less about PLANNED PARENTHOOD murdering human babies and then selling their body parts for profit!
On a side note, it's funny how so many get so upset over the killing of an "innocent" Lion or Giraffe but they could care less about PLANNED PARENTHOOD murdering human babies and then selling their body parts for profit!
Its the photo that YOU POSTED Scooter. Right along with YOU saying: "He was already on a year's probation for lying to government officials about a bear he shot and killed in Wisconsin."
Suppose you tell us what YOU intended by it.
Is that an illegally hunted bear? Where was the photo taken and When? Is it even the same guy in question?
OH MY! "POOR DEAD BEAR AND MEAN OL' HUNTER IN A PICTURE!"
You just toss out propaganda and crap and then deny any responsibility for it. Typical Leftist.
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Is this why his guides are already in court, and why the dentist himself is facing possible extradition to Zimbabwe?
Patrick, I think you know me enough not to ask if I believe if the hunt was illegal... then burn the pricks.
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Why just a fine? Won't hurt a wealthy dentist much.
And why just a ban? He was already on a year's probation for lying to government officials about a bear he shot and killed in Wisconsin.
Why not jail time?
I would want jail time. Hard to say everything that is needed writing on an internet forum. I will work harder so that you have a better understanding. I am sorry that I did not take the time to address questions that I did not know you would ask. Sofa King sorry.
It sounds like dentist boy is a poacher. If he is, then let him rot. I have no compassion for ilk.
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I can agree on sport hunting dangerous game (lions and tigers and bears, oh my ) as long as they're not lured off a preserve. I can agree on sport hunting small game, which requires a lot of skill. I definitely agree on hunting for food and I know of people who have poorly paid jobs that poach deer to feed their families and have no problem with that. But killing a giraffe is like killing a dolphin, manatee or golden retriever - how much challenge and skill can it take to kill docile animals ? Then grand-standing about it is pretty despicable if you ask me.
Originally posted by Patrick: Are you suggesting he's only killed one bear? Did I say that was the bear shot in Wisconsin? Trust you to try and make that connection. Fail..
In all fairness, YOU did post a pic of dipshat dentist with a Kodiak, and pertain to WI. Fail. Better check your foot for a wound.
I find it rather interesting that among ALL the news stories that people post links to here... nothing (except for the reference in this woman's story) about Cecil the lion being terminated by a trophy hunter.
Earlier in the thread.
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This hunt, I don't know. The lion hunt, maybe, but again I don't know. I've just heard from what my wife read and told me, that the lion was lured off a sanctuary and once they were able to get it off the sanctuary the hunter took the shot. While it may have been legal to kill an animal off the sanctuary, was it legal to lure one off to kill it or even ethical if no law exists currently for such a situation assuming that's what actually happened?
Either way, honestly this is a side show. It's a giraffe, what's your government doing? Your city police? and so on...
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I don't see it as a 'sport'. In most sports the participants are fairly evenly matched. In this case the hunter sneaks up on his quarry that doesn't even know that it is in the game. The target is just going about his business of living and minding its own business when all of a sudden BLAM game over. I'm not innocent. When I was younger I went out in the woods with my gun and thought that it was great fun. A live shooting gallery. I wish that someone had told me how wrong I was. I value all life now and don't think that just because my species is more intelligent that makes it all right to slaughter anything less intelligent. I still enjoy guns but I would only shoot any other living thing in self protection. I'm a hypocrite in that I still eat meat but in all honesty I want someone else to do the killing for me so that I don't have to witness it.
I don't see it as a 'sport'. In most sports the participants are fairly evenly matched. In this case the hunter sneaks up on his quarry that doesn't even know that it is in the game. The target is just going about his business of living and minding its own business when all of a sudden BLAM game over. I'm not innocent. When I was younger I went out in the woods with my gun and thought that it was great fun. A live shooting gallery. I wish that someone had told me how wrong I was. I value all life now and don't think that just because my species is more intelligent that makes it all right to slaughter anything less intelligent. I still enjoy guns but I would only shoot any other living thing in self protection. I'm a hypocrite in that I still eat meat but in all honesty I want someone else to do the killing for me so that I don't have to witness it.
I call it Exocet Deer Hunting. Just call in an airstrike.
In all fairness, YOU did post a pic of dipshat dentist with a Kodiak, and pertain to WI.
I did not imply that photo was taken in Wisconsin. I wanted to post a picture of Dr Dipshat, and that's the first one I found. I have since found more images of this guy... see below.
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Its the photo that YOU POSTED Scooter.
"Scooter"? Are you trying to be derogatory again?
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Originally posted by randye:
Is it even the same guy in question?
I couldn't quite make out his fingerprints.
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You just toss out propaganda and crap and then deny any responsibility for it.
Anything you don't agree with is "propaganda", eh?
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Typical Leftist.
Typical dink.
Here you go, Randy. Soak it all in. Enjoy the sight of all these dead animals... all killed by Dr Walter Palmer. Quite the hero.
Admit it Randy... you're just a little bit aroused now, aren't you?
But killing a giraffe is like killing a dolphin, manatee or golden retriever - how much challenge and skill can it take to kill docile animals ? Then grand-standing about it is pretty despicable if you ask me.
Totally agree.
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I don't see it as a 'sport'. In most sports the participants are fairly evenly matched. In this case the hunter sneaks up on his quarry that doesn't even know that it is in the game. The target is just going about his business of living and minding its own business when all of a sudden BLAM game over.
Yeah, I don't understand why some people can't make that connection. Who are we to decide life and death of other living creatures... for "sport"? To hang a head on a wall? It's barbaric and disgusting.
Are people the only creatures that hunt for "sport"?
How often do hunters just cut off a head or skin and leave the rest?
Is it more humane to kill an animal with a lethal projectile or to let it be torn to shreds by other animals?
Is it more logical to kill a giraffe and feed a village or let it die alone in a field where its meat rots?
How many animals have been "put down" or "put out of their misery"? If this is not humane, should vets be charged with animal cruelty?
"They showed me this beautiful old bull giraffe that was wandering all alone. He had been kicked out of the herd by a younger and stronger bull. He was past his breeding years and very close to death. They asked me if I would preserve this giraffe by providing all the locals with food and other means of survival. He was inevitably going to die soon and he could either be wasted or utilized by the local people. I chose to honor his life by providing others with his uses and I do not regret it for one second."
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Maybe we can start posting some commercial meat processing photos so whenever people eat their steak, or hot dog, or KFC they can appreciate the roll they played in the death of an animal. It's only horriffic if you see it.
I don't see it as a 'sport'. In most sports the participants are fairly evenly matched. In this case the hunter sneaks up on his quarry that doesn't even know that it is in the game. The target is just going about his business of living and minding its own business when all of a sudden BLAM game over.
There is great concern among the bleeding heart hunter haters that Cecil's offspring are in grave danger of being killed by other lions now that Cecil is gone.
Cecil's offspring aren't fairly or evenly matched to the other adult lions who seek to kill them. Cecil's offspring probably aren't aware they are being targeted by these other adult lions and won't know what is going on until: BLAM - game over.
So I guess it is a question of will the adult lion who kills Cecil's offspring eat them or not. If not, was this for sport? Or was it for something more sinister?
Man isn't the only creature who kills and may not end up eating his prey. It happens in nature all the time.
That having been said, I'm not a "sport" hunter. I eat what I kill. I have zero desire to hunt Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Rhinos, etc. I just don't see the point of hunting and killing something if that meat is going to go to waste.
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As I suspected... the blood did all rush to your groin when you saw those dead animals!
Perfect. Not a peep about your own hypocrisy. Just senseless references to comedians, penises, groins and irrelevant dead animals. The exact level of adolescent, puerile behavior and juvenile personal attack we have come to expect from you.
That word you Lefties love to use? Oh yes! Deflection! Not a word about your own hypocrisy....just LOOK OVER THERE ---->
Sorry, lets not.
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Who are we to decide life and death of other living creatures...
Enjoy your shirt Scooter.
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Now you just want to quibble over the *purpose*, not the act itself. You really are that bereft of basic intellect? You want to parse words and play semantics games. Divert attention with non sequitur quotes from comedians. The childish Leftist *Deflection* game. Just do or say ANYTHING other than acknowledge the obviousness of your own words and your own HYPOCRISY. "for sport", "for a trophy", "for fun", "for education", "for exercise", "for wildlife management"," for the baby's heart, lungs and liver", "for________", Doesn't matter. NONE of that alters YOUR BASIC PREMISE, as much as you now want to run away from it Scooter.
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Who are we to decide life and death of other living creatures.
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I suspect of the earlier images I posted, this is Randy's favorite.
Tell me Randy, when you go on your sport hunts... do you fantasize about holding and caressing the freshly killed beast? Or perhaps you've been able to go beyond just thinking about it? What's it like holding the still warm furry limp body next to yours? Could you stop smiling? Were you able to get some warm blood on you as well, oozing all over your cute little safari outfit. Maybe if you get to where the critter lies mortally wounded just a little bit quicker, the blood of the beast will still be able to spurt all over you before its pounding heart gives out. Oh Randy, sounds simply orgasmic!
ANYTHING, but addressing your own hypocrisy, right Scooter?
You dug your own pit with your hypocrisy and now all you can do is shout juvenile sexual innuendos from the bottom of it and behave like a child. Your inability to directly confront an issue in an adult manner is really pathetic and sad.
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Who are we to decide life and death of other living creatures.
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And how is that comment connected to trophy or "sport" hunting?
It's directly connected to the person who is the topic of this thread since the animal was used to feed villagers. You're the one who's going off tangent on your trophy hunting crusade like God Warrior.
It's directly connected to the person who is the topic of this thread since the animal was used to feed villagers.
That's swell. One old giraffe she killed is used to feed villagers (so we're told). What about all the rest of the animals this woman has slaughtered for the fun of it?
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You're the one who's going off tangent on your trophy hunting crusade like God Warrior.
Wow, if you think I'm "off tangent", I can't wait to hear how you describe Randy's journey into Planned Parenthood.
That's swell. One old giraffe she killed is used to feed villagers (so we're told). What about all the rest of the animals this woman has slaughtered for the fun of it?
You know whether or not the meat from those other hunts was used for food? Seriously dude, go smoke a bowl and chill the hell out.
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) as long as they're not lured off a preserve. I can agree on sport hunting small game, which requires a lot of skill. I definitely agree on hunting for food and I know of people who have poorly paid jobs that poach deer to feed their families and have no problem with that. But killing a giraffe is like killing a dolphin, manatee or golden retriever - how much challenge and skill can it take to kill docile animals ? Then grand-standing about it is pretty despicable if you ask me.
Better check your foot for a wound. 
