From what I know that is about as painful a death as there is. I suggest that we round up every terrorist captive we have and give them an immediate execution. Doesn't have to be as evil as theirs but it should be in a way that prevents martyrdom. I'm thinking pigs blood type of stuff.
I don't know that much about their beliefs. I heard about pigs blood coated bullets but I was told that wouldn't be effective according to their beliefs. I guess we could ask Rinselberg. edited: I'm not trying to pick on rinselberg and I have no idea what his take would be, just that he seems to know a lot about the religion.
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From what I know that is about as painful a death as there is.
My gut feeling is that ISIS has now gone too far... and instead of simply "shocking" the western world with their usual style of executions (beheadings), they've now angered the "infidels".
The act of burning someone alive and showcasing it to the world might end up being "the last straw" in regards to what their enemies worldwide seem to have semi-tolerated up to this point.
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It's all part of the plan. An Islamic vs infidels helter skelter. You can't have a global jihad without first enraging enough of the enemy to engage you. Charlie Manson would be proud.
"If you give a man the whip and he likes the whip, what have you really done to him?" (actual words were: "If someone beat you with a whip and you love the whip, what's he doing?")
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I think they will start losing support in the Muslim world over this. Up until now their victims have been foreigners but this pilot will be seen by a lot of people as one of their own.
"If you give a man the whip and he likes the whip, what have you really done to him?" (actual words were: "If someone beat you with a whip and you love the whip, what's he doing?")
Ive always heard burning was the worse way to die, followed closely by drowning.
When is the world going to realize the only cure is to get rid of them all. Turn the countries supporting and training them all to glass. Ive said before Ill take the first bomb to them without any hint of guilt. I dont care how many of their 'kinder' collateral people melt with them. Hitler may have been onto something but targeted the wrong people.
Sorry, but these muslims, islamist or whatever their flavor of the day just get my blood boiling.
Nothing will happen. At least, not from us. Our sympathizer in the white house will go on vacation and not say a thing about it. People on Internet forums will start threads and complain and Facebook will go crazy with memes and tough guys who want to go over and kill some ragheads. And next week we'll be right back to worrying about a football coach who kissed his daughter on the lips in a moment of excitement, or focusing on the next stupid thing Michael Moore says.
It's what we've become. No memory, no focus, instant gratification, on to the next shiny object.
It was done to about 3,000 people in the World Trade Center. The outrage eventually wore down. Not everyone's, I know, but we're not together on anything anymore.
I think they will start losing support in the Muslim world over this. Up until now their victims have been foreigners but this pilot will be seen by a lot of people as one of their own.
Grandaddy, ISIS has brutally executed thousands of Arabs in the last 6-8 months.
"The photos and satellite images from Tikrit provide strong evidence of a horrible war crime that needs further investigation. They and other abusive forces should know that the eyes of Iraqis and the world are watching," Human Rights Watch emergencies director, Peter Bouckaert, said in a statement.
“ISIS is committing mass murder, and advertising it as well,” he added. ISIS themselves claim to have executed 1,700 Shia soldiers in Tikrit and Iraq’s human rights minister, Mohamed Shia Sudani, announced on June 22 that 175 air force recruits had been executed by ISIS, also in Tikrit. Some of them were thrown into the Tigris River while others were buried in mass graves.
HRW posted around 60 photographs on its Twitter feed on June 14, which showed fighters herding civilians onto trucks before forcing them to lie in three trenches.
It was done to about 3,000 people in the World Trade Center. The outrage eventually wore down. Not everyone's, I know, but we're not together on anything anymore.
Precisely. All those people, *OUR* people, on OUR soil....it's disgusting.
When is the world going to realize the only cure is to get rid of them all. Turn the countries supporting and training them all to glass. Ive said before Ill take the first bomb to them without any hint of guilt. I dont care how many of their 'kinder' collateral people melt with them.
Hitler may have been onto something but targeted the wrong people.
Maybe the Allies should've snuffed out every German on the planet 70 years ago, eh?
Of course, there'd be a lot fewer PFF members today... (those of German descent now living in Canada and the States would never have been born), but hey... all of those damn Germans back in the 1930's-40's were Nazis or Nazi sympathizers, right?
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I'm all for showing no mercy to terrorists... wherever they're from. Wipe all the b*st*rds out. But Roger's way of thinking really scares disgusts me.
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Maybe the Allies should've snuffed out every German on the planet 70 years, eh?
There'd be a lot less members on this forum, those of German descent now living in Canada and the States, but hey... none of those nasty Germans back in the 1930's-40's were worth a damn, right?
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I'm all for showing no mercy to terrorists... wherever they're from. Wipe all the b*st*rds out. But Roger's way of thinking really scares disgusts me.
Not snuff out but I have long been of the opnion that we should have just turned all of Germany over to Stalin after VE day and Japan over to China when that war ended. It would have saved us a bundle of $$$
Not snuff out but I have long been of the opnion that we should have just turned all of Germany over to Stalin after VE day and Japan over to China when that war ended. It would have saved us a bundle of $$$
Saved a lot of $$$ to do what... ?
Do you honestly think the US would've been better off today? The US seemed to be doing very well back in the 50's while "supporting" the rebuilding of Japan and Germany.
Oh, absolutely would have been better off today, but it's too early in this thread ( it isn't one I started) to go off on that far of a tangent. Remind me later.
If this report is true, Jordan is going to execute 6 ISIS prisoners in response to the death of the pilot "within hours".
A wandering thought. Thats interesting, seems they should execute them for what they do, not in response to what someone else does. Is this like reverse negotiating?
Not that I'm complaining. If they claim the same intent so be it.
Maybe the Allies should've snuffed out every German on the planet 70 years ago, eh?
Of course, there'd be a lot fewer PFF members today... (those of German descent now living in Canada and the States would never have been born), but hey... all of those damn Germans back in the 1930's-40's were Nazis or Nazi sympathizers, right?
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I'm all for showing no mercy to terrorists... wherever they're from. Wipe all the b*st*rds out. But Roger's way of thinking really scares disgusts me.
No we shouldnt have, not all of them had disdain for everyone else living on the planet like muslim/islamists. They really just targeted Jews, not the rest of the world. They just wanted to rule everyone. Muslims/islams want everyone else dead thats on the planet. Just a slight difference there.
I hope i DO scare and disgust you...everyone NEEDS to wake up. Theyre killing anyone, anywhere they please in most cases.
Jordan executed 2 prisoners immediately and I heard theyre rushing to execute another 4 asap. Good for them. Something I dont remember seeing in either Gulf War, was using napalm in quanity if at all. Maybe they should step it up and drop thousands of those on suspected terrorists.
A friend of mine posted a link on facebook with the video and I watched it in spite of the fact that I knew it would be upsetting and of course it was. One of the things that stuck with me was the ending where they showed the faces of Jordanian pilots. Coming after seeing all those masked jihadists it struck me that one of the sides here is too cowardly to show their faces while revealing the faces of the other side. It was an awful thing to see. I don't see an end to this coming soon, probably never. This from a guy who always tries to be optimistic and see any bright side. If I were religious I would be afraid that the end time was coming.
A friend of mine posted a link on facebook with the video and I watched it in spite of the fact that I knew it would be upsetting and of course it was. One of the things that stuck with me was the ending where they showed the faces of Jordanian pilots. Coming after seeing all those masked jihadists it struck me that one of the sides here is too cowardly to show their faces while revealing the faces of the other side. It was an awful thing to see. I don't see an end to this coming soon, probably never. This from a guy who always tries to be optimistic and see any bright side. If I were religious I would be afraid that the end time was coming.
I just can't bring myself to watch it. I'm not particularly squeamish, but it's just more than I want to expose myself to. And, I'm not going to give those pricks the satisfaction of watching their awfulness.
I found the full video posted here. I watched it. Most of the video is Islamic State propaganda. They show "victims" of arial attacks and build a case against the pilot. Then they murder him. Next they put out a bounty on the other Jordanian pilots that volunteered to bomb the Islamic State.
From the graphics and edits in the video, it is obvious they killed the pilot several weeks ago. IS was negociating in bad faith for the release of prisoners. The other Muslim countries have taken notice.
I'm not going to give those pricks the satisfaction of watching their awfulness.
I kind of feel the same way. There is no point in seeing that, I dont need to see that to believe it happened. I've never watched a beheading either to me there is no point.
I agree except for the idea of 'know your enemy'. It wasn't morbid curiosity that led me to view it. I did come away with my previously posted realization that anonymity was ok for them but no one else. If they are so proud of what they do let them show their faces.
No, thanks, I appreciate the "fix" --> the reminder that we have already experienced several attacks against our "take on things". But alas, we (as a whole) just don't care enough. which is almost a good thing, because our short memories may actually be a major factor in us surviving this period of history...
Till they push a button on a briefcase on some random Friday, and a quarter of NYC is just "gone"...
...and then for the next 15 years they'll have "Remember 1/1/2016" ceremonies...
Time to deal with more meaningless Technological snafus!
*ZoTT!*
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Good beliefs incorporated into life can be very good. Bad ones not so much. If one believes it how easily can they separate it? Who does not have a belief of any kind? Also there are many out just for plain old power, wealth and gain, regardless of the tool. Many.
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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist: But alas, we (as a whole) just don't care enough. which is almost a good thing, because our short memories may actually be a major factor in us surviving this period of history...
Ignorance as a strategy for the future? No thank you. It's those who forget the lessons of history that have to relearn them - time and time again.
From what I know that is about as painful a death as there is. I suggest that we round up every terrorist captive we have and give them an immediate execution. Doesn't have to be as evil as theirs but it should be in a way that prevents martyrdom. I'm thinking pigs blood type of stuff.
Kind of. They doused him with an accelerant from head to toe. From what I have read the fire consumes oxygen, including oxygen thats in your lungs and you actually affixiate long before death from the burns. If you're being burned over a fuel source (tied to a cross with fire under your feet) you're in a world of hurt. There comes a point where third degree burns become painless due to burning off the nerve endings however 3rd degree burns are surrounded by 2nd degree burns and I would rather not be subjected to finding out what its like to be burned alive. He was burned to prove a point, the bombs he dropped burned his "victim's" and covered them in rubble, he got the same as the cage he was locked in was covered in a blown up building destroyed by Jordan, dare I say it was poetic? IS wanted a **** storm, they got one.
