I can almost guarantee that the city would not go for that. Everyone and their dog would be applying for this privilege... including the neighbor who started all this nonsense!
Like I said they do it here. If he also does it, doesn't that get his cars out of your way in front of your house ? Seems that there would be no problem if everyone parked at their own house. If you expect to have a lot of company, ask other neighbors if its alright and ignore the bad egg. If you have a group at your house, if its dry, why not just park them on your lawn for the few hours. It wont hurt unless you have fence around it. I have a friend who has too many cars for his house and often people park on the street. Its in a golf course subdivision of million dollar houses so the neighbors complain. He does try to keep everything in his property and wont donate or do anything else the others in the subdivision ask...like donations for this or that. If they come by for anything he just tells them to kiss his azz. They always ask him to participate by putting up holiday decorations and he just slams the door in their faces. I say I cant blame him.
Seems that there would be no problem if everyone parked at their own house. If you expect to have a lot of company, ask other neighbors if its alright and ignore the bad egg. If you have a group at your house, if its dry, why not just park them on your lawn for the few hours.
No offence Roger, but your "solutions" sound worse than the original problem.
So you've lived across the street from this guy for ten years and never talked to him? He's never been outside when you could've waved and said "Hi"?
We tried at the beginning, but he and his old mother weren't too interested in socializing. She went to a "home" a few years back. Just him and his unfriendly dogs now. They're the kind with a mean bark at everything that moves - even small kids headed to the park.
From chatting with the neighbors, he's P.O.'d quite a few of them over the years. Somebody chucked a rock through his RV's window a few years ago.
I hear the neighbor directly next door to him MOVED because of him (don't know the details). But he probably dicked around with cars parked on the front street too . (I'm on the side)
One thing I've noticed - I've NEVER seen anyone park and visit at this house the whole time I've lived here.
But I don't believe he's "dying for my company" either.
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One thing I've noticed - I've NEVER seen anyone park and visit at this house the whole time I've lived here.
That's kind of sad actually.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting this is somehow your fault... the guy might actually just be a miserable sod.
It's probably too late now (or maybe not), but it's too bad in retrospect that perhaps you didn't go over and introduce yourself when you moved in all those years ago. I have neighbors that I've never spoken to as well (mostly because they don't speak English), and it would seem awkward to start now... but fortunately I'm not at war with them either.
So you've lived across the street from this guy for ten years and never talked to him? He's never been outside when you could've waved and said "Hi"?
Some people are just unsociable. There are 14 homes on my cul-de-sac street. A neighbor across the street has lived there for over 20 years. Her husband died about 16 years ago. She's raised 3 kids and none of them have ever spoken to anyone on the street. When we've gone over to tell them about a leak at their water meter or that some kids came by and knocked their mailbox off the post, they wouldn't even open the door. Her 2 oldest girls have graduated from college and moved out. The 16 year old boy is still home. They've never had playmates. Another family down the street has been there about 16 years and they've never spoken with anyone. The rest of us on the street talk and wave, but these two homes don't socialize. Even when the last one moved in, the street took some Welcome Neighbor goodies and they took them, said thank you and closed the door.
Nurb, that's not vandalism, it's a prank. It does no harm, the liquid evaporates leaving no stain. It smells like a really nasty rotten egg fart. Takes about an hour to dissipate.
Buy a firehydrant. Next time he parks there, put it next to his car and call parking enforcement, then remove it once they leave. You'll have hours of fun knowing that he'll have to waste time trying to get it all straightened out in court after he'd ripped up the original ticket thinking it was a fake...
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One thing I've noticed - I've NEVER seen anyone park and visit at this house the whole time I've lived here.
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Originally posted by Patrick:
That's kind of sad actually.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting this is somehow your fault... the guy might actually just be a miserable sod.
I haven't seen him ever chat with any other neighbor, but he knows how to call Bylaws to snitch on everyone. People have got tickets for being too close to the alley/roadway (should be 3 feet away - not 2''-6" for example).
I think he may be one of those guys people get along with UNTIL they get to know him. Then they find he's an ass. If he has any "neighborhood friends" who wave and say "Hi", they'd HAVE to be people who live AWAY from him...
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Buy a firehydrant. Next time he parks there, put it next to his car and call parking enforcement, then remove it once they leave. You'll have hours of fun knowing that he'll have to waste time trying to get it all straightened out in court after he'd ripped up the original ticket thinking it was a fake...
Now that's a great idea, Melanie's mom had one she bought at some yard sale or something that she had the boys put in her garden on their summer place up here in Maine on Fry Island. So you can buy them, thing is the real ones a heavy as hell and you would need a crane, or at least a hand truck to move it around ! So you might want to get a fake one that wouldn't kill you moving it around.
At the beginning of the summer I had a problem with one of my neighbors. Someone was picking up dog poop and leaving it on my steps. I live in a town house and there are 20 or so homes on my street. I had no idea who was leaving the poop. I leave the house most days before 6am and come home after 7pm. The "poop bandit" as he came to be called, managed to leave poop before I woke up and before I got home. After the 5th time I came home to find a Chinese takeout container FULL of dog crap on the steps. I went door to door, which took over an hour and finally found him. He was some shut in that has never spoken to me in the 3 years I've been there. I asked if he was "the poop bandit" and he said yes. I asked why. He offered that the poop must be my Labs because I am the only one with a big dog and the poop is clearly my dog.
I didn't bother telling him that we are fanatical about picking it up, I didn't bother telling him that our dog hates his yard and doesn't go near it. I offered an apology and politely asked him to stop doing it. I gave him my cell and my email and told him if the problem persists to call me and I will come get the poop since it was such a sensitive issue for him. Finally, I finished our conversation by telling him I thought it was childish and immature. I'm William and I'm a grown man just like you, lets handle this like adults so that we can avoid handling it like men.
He got my drift and I was as polite as I could be. He waves every time I see him and speaks to me regularly. The neighbors think I paid him off! Doesn't matter what anyone thinks as now I don't have to go outside to find poo on my steps every morning. Maybe try the open minded approach and go talk to him. Calmly explain your desire to live in harmony and ask him, what can I do to help alleviate this situation? Some folks just need to feel like they won. If that's what he wants, be the bigger man and give it to him.
I've had problem neighbors before, we always worked it out. Well, except for that witch that used to live across the street in Oklahoma. Some folks seem to find it their mission in life to make others miserable. I wasn't her issue, she just didn't like the world as it was. I did my best to ignore her. Maybe you should try that. What he's doing isn't illegal. Not sure how she (my former neighbor) passed but, I doubt her visitation was greatly attended.
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My neighbor problem solved itself. I had a neighbor that lived in a group home, he was barely able to communicate but he loved to work and always helped out the next door neighbor. He offered to mow my 3/4 off a acre for $10 using the next door nighbors mower if I bought the gas. I said I didn't think $10 was fair so I said I'd do $20. It was great for a few months but then it went south. He mowed just a line on the edge of the property and then asked to be payed. There was no argument I just said I couldn't pay for the little that was mowed. He started showing up daily, waiting at the end of the driveway but going home when I told him I didn't owe him. This went of for longer than it should have, maybe a month, I could have called the group home and handled it that way but one day he just completely disappeared.
I admit I'm in the camp that very much dislikes neighbours as well, and its not that I'm an abrasive misrable SOB (well, not ALL the time anyway )--its the never-ending issues with them. I work on projects that mean power tools and compressor. I generate saw dust, fiberglass dust, VOC ouders from various chemicals/ paints. I enjoy target shooting with the airguns or bows. I smoke cigars in the garage (LOL, but the chiiilllldddrrreennn) .ALL of which result in complaints, arguments and power struggles with them and I just plain old dont want to deal with it. I'm not going to change my lifestyle to suit them and they aint going to stop thier bitching about it, so the best soloution for me is to be a country dweller where there ARE no neighbours to piss and moan every time I fire something up. It dont hurt that I do actually like nature and much prefer the smell of damp earth to damp tarmac.
Hmm... Park on his side of the street, blocking his gate? Wait til snow flies, then angle the output chute on the blower so that it covers his car? "Accidentally" spray over your fence while watering the lawn and get his paint?
If he wants to be an ass about it and pull childish bullshit, do the same thing right back. Play the same moves as him, maybe he'llget the hint
Or just park him in, get right on his bumpers with your cars and leave em there. He tries to get out and hits your car, well...that's his own damn fault and an insurance check for you (leave about 2 inches between your cars and his
No offence Roger, but your "solutions" sound worse than the original problem.
How so, if everyone parked at their own curb, there would be no problem right...or am I missing something.
If he parks and blocks your driveway, just go down to Home Depot or Lowes and use their truck to run into his everytime he does. There free and you shouldnt do any damage to the trucks bumper. Unless he sees you, he dont know who hit it. Just tell him someone must have used the drive to turn around in.
http://hubpages.com/hub/25-...-Annoy-Your-Neighbor Mow your lawn very early in the morning. Be sure and use the leaf blower as often as possible. Leave no stone unturned. No leaf visible to the naked eye.
Have a few pizza pies delivered to their address. When your neighbor refuses to pay because he didn't order them, tell the delivery driver that you'll buy them at a reduced rate instead of them going to waste.
When a solicitor knocks on your door to sell you something...rave about how much your neighbor is a fan of the product or organization. Tell them your neighbor is shy and might need some coaxing to admit it!
Weed your yard in your swimsuit. Or birthday suit. Most people can't pull this off. There is a woman in my neighborhood who mows her lawn in heels and jeans in 90* temps. I'll never understand that.
Blow all your leaves to his side of the street/ yard. Turn on your lawn sprinkler so his car gets soaked and him when he comes to move it. Pour out a few old gallon cans of paint on his driveway instead of throwing them away. Use a tennis racket to spike dog poo all over his driveway and porch. Borrow some spotlites to shine in his windows late at nite. Call some hookers and give them his address. Squirt superglue into all his door locks and handles. Open his radiator petcock, then use your hose to rinse it away. His temp gauge wont show it hot with no water and he'll burn it up. Call AAA pretending to be him and have the car hauled to a shop.Best..steal a tank and run over it...
Some folks seem to find it their mission in life to make others miserable. ... I did my best to ignore her. Maybe you should try that. ... What he's doing isn't illegal.
This prick wants it BOTH ways. When my neighbors and I had visitors stop by, they weren't doing anything illegal either by parking on "his side" for an hour. But he went out and dicked around with mirrors, sprayed the cars with water etc. And he'd been getting away with this FOR YEARS as we tried to "ignore him". Finally he got hauled to the carpet for these juvenile actions when a complaint was filed and the Police visited to tell him the street is Public Parking and he can't do this.
So suddenly he's discovered "public parking" and has made it a harassment tool. His obvious preference is to be as obtrusive and annoying as possible. There's a big difference between someone on front of your house for a couple of hours and someone storing their car 24/7 in a way just to inconvenience you and your visitors. (yeah guys - it's allowed because it's within 100 feet of his residence and it's properly tagged/insured)
I think this is the kind of guy that is still carrying grudges from the 1st Grade and will be to his grave.
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Look, I'm from New Jersey. We don't put up with this stuff. If you don't "know a guy who knows a guy", if you know what I mean, you've gotta handle it yourself.
Do you really want his old car moved? It's gonna be expensive, and hurt a lot, but nobody goes to jail. Beg, buy, borrow, or best, rent a large vehicle. Wait for a rainy night, maybe with slippery leaves on the street. Shoot, you're in Canada, it'll be snowing soon enough. Come around the corner a little too fast, hit the gas instead of the brake, and BOOM! His old car gets totaled. Just an accident.. Your insurance pays for his old car, maybe you get a ticket for careless driving. His old car goes away.
Sure, he''ll scream you did it on purpose. Just look at the cop and ask if YOU look crazy enough to do this on purpose. Dang, you could've been seriously injured!
On the plus side, crazy people seldom mess with someone they know to be crazier than they are. Just how bad do you want this taken care of?
How so, if everyone parked at their own curb, there would be no problem right...or am I missing something.
You're dead on. That's ALL I'm asking this guy to do.
He's now harassing me because he was told by Police he couldn't fkk with the cars that park on "his side". Of course, it's mostly people who visit me that might on occasion park there for a couple of hours. It didn't help that the friend who confronted him parked there after the Police talked with him. Now I'm stuck with this problem.
It snowed a bit yesterday. He waited until I cleared the walk in the afternoon, then came out later and pushed ALL the snow off his vehicle onto the walk.
The problem would not exist if he still only had 1 car - it would be garaged through the winter (1-car garage). But he bought a new vehicle just when the "parking war" started (what a coincidence?) and kept the old one. It's this old one he kept that he can use as an obstacle (maybe it wasn't worth much as a trade?).
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Id love it when it snowed. Id use my snow blower in the street and yard and bury his car as deep as you can. If its cold enough, pour water over the whole thing so it freezes.
... it'll be snowing soon enough. Come around the corner a little too fast... and BOOM! His old car gets totaled. Just an accident..
Every winter, people HAVE climbed the sidewalk on that corner in the snow because it can be very slippery. I usually tell my visitors not to park that far back in the winter because they could get hit. Maybe some snowy Friday/Saturday night some 4x4 truck will take that corner a little too fast.
He can then kick himself for parking there.
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Is parking allowed overnight, on the street, in the winter?
Not on main thoroughfares, commuter roads etc. Those have different rules especially "Snow Routes". This is a residential street that is not a "Snow Route", so I can park on my street too.
The city doesn't clear residential streets except in exceptional circumstances. They just level and sand/salt the driving lanes.
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I guess I may be rid of him but only for the winter
So he'd been parked on my side of the street for a month now, even though he could park 4-5 cars in front of his own place. He washed this thing on my side of the street Saturday while I was out. But he went out that evening with his new Kia SUV. When he came home, wet snow had started falling - so he put BOTH cars in his garage!! Might be snug, but both fit in the garage.
DEFINITE proof this guy was just being a miserable prick!
I saw him in a parking lot the other evening. Talk about being anal!!
But the way he had parked this thing, you'd think he had a brand new $85,000 Corvette or a "collectible" vehicle worth the same. Last row, end spot, far away from everyone. Probably does the same at Walmart and Safeway too.
This is a 20-year-old Toyota 4Runner (not even worth trading in on his new vehicle). Sure it's in good shape because it's been garaged an average of 20 hours/day for 20 years - BUT it's still only worth about $5000.
Maybe it was his FIRST "Brand New" car when he bought it back then.
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I have a similar issue but I'm from the perspective of your neighbor (except for the being a douche part).
I live on a cul de sac and my neighbor always has people over, who stay the night. Multiple cars. They are always parking in front of my house. Normally I don't mind, but the ont thing that gets on my nerves is when one of his visitors (high school age kids who are visiting his kids) blocks my driveway. It's never been more than 3 or 4 feet, never completely blocking my access, but enough so that if I wanted to back my Tiburon out, I'd have to weave over to the other "lane" of the driveway to get out.
Again, not a huge deal, and I've never even said anything about it, but still violates my version of parking and neighborly ettiquette.
I'm not sure if I just missed it, but have you ever gone over there (in a non-confrontational manner) and asked why he doesn't like people parking in front of his house? Maybe he had a bad experience. Maybe people always leave trash in his yard (happens to me every once in a while when they park in front), etc. If you've been neighbors for 10 years, and in good standing with each other except for "don't park in front of my house", maybe you could have talked it out before calling the police?
Not siding with him, harrassment and mischief are juvenile and petulent, but it seems like a simple discussion about it may have helped from the beginning, before it escalated...
I'm not sure if I just missed it, but have you ever gone over there (in a non-confrontational manner) and asked why he doesn't like people parking in front of his house? ...
You missed it, because you can't believe this guy is just nuts and disagreeable.
This IS NOT a case where he has nowhere to park "because of visitors". HIS side of the street is empty, plus he has garage space to fit BOTH vehicles I just found out.
So I ask again, and he says "because I don't like them too" - then what?
The one excuse he gave was that he wouldn't be able to get his motorhome out of the backyard (not a driveway being blocked, just a fence that opens) if he decides to go camping (hasn't moved in the past 3-1/2 years) during the couple of hours I have a visitor or people over for a BBQ. So nobody should park there 24/7/365 "just in case" he decides on a whim to go camping after supper? Even the Cops didn't buy that!
Of course, he also doesn't like it when cars are parked on that side of the street and NOT "blocking" his motorhome either.
He has a self-entitled ownership of the street attitude and this all STARTED with his "soft vandalism" for years of the cars that parked there.
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You missed it, because you can't believe this guy is just nuts and disagreeable.
I can't believe that he is just nuts? When did I say that?
I'm not siding with either of you, fierosound, I don't have a horse in the race. I just know from years of having to live next to people that sometimes they are legitimate d-bags and sometimes they just don't realize that what they are doing is bothering you, which can include music being too loud, smoking right by a neighbor's open window, parking in front of their house, or anything else they come up with.
It's ok that it bothers you that he has a problem with people parking in front of his house, but it's not okay that it bothers him? Hypothetically, if he didn't resort to mischief/vandalism, but just kindly asked you not to part in front of his house, would you honor his request?
Again, I don't condone vandalism and mischief, and he isn't the victim here. From the way I read your OP it sounded like you went from putting up with his annoying tendencies to calling the cops with no "talk it out" phase in between. If you did indeed talk it out and he was still dismissive then it sounds like you had no other choice.
I've been there, trust me. In the house I am in now the neighbor beside us (his backyard borders our side yard by the cul de sac) decided to completely relandscape his back yard. But he didn't know how to get the rocks into his backyard. So he built a gate into our shared fenceline and used my front yard as a loading dock. I still have permanent doulie ruts in my front yard. I had a talk with him and made it clear it couldn't happen again, and that he needed to move his stuff to his own street. He did, and 3 months later when he wanted to build an extravagent (and ugly) deck on the back of his house, he used his own street and I've never had another problem with him.
Sometimes just talking to someone can solve a lot of problems with neighbors.
I think I mentioned that talking didn't work with this guy. Tried that before I called the Cops.
But I think I may be rid of him for the winter. He's garaging both cars - not driving the NEW car at all. He's driving the "old one" these days and he's really anal about getting that one dirty too.
If he returns in the spring, I will put a bird feeder on MY fence in the area where he parks.
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If he returns in the spring, I will put a bird feeder on MY fence in the area where he parks.
I believe that if that was my intention, I'd put that bird feeder up now or at least while there's still snow on the ground. While the intent is obvious, he wasn't parking there when you put up the bird feeder. Might be a small point but............................
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My Uncle Frank was a staunch Conservative and voted straight Republican until the day he died in Chicago. Since then he has voted Democrat. Shrug
Check your local laws. Here, your not allowed to have a motorhome, trailer, boat, or utility trailer on residential property. They first fine you, then they tow it away for you and sell it at the police auction. I checked on all this when I bought my motorhome. Not a problem they said since its zoned commercial. I could even rent out storage space for them if I wanted to. Really pizz him off to find tickets on his motorhome in the back yard, or find it missing some day when police impounded it. Get all your other neighbors to complain about it too.
Check your local laws. Here, your not allowed to have a motorhome, trailer, boat, or utility trailer on residential property. They first fine you, then they tow it away for you and sell it at the police auction. I checked on all this when I bought my motorhome. Not a problem they said since its zoned commercial. I could even rent out storage space for them if I wanted to. Really pizz him off to find tickets on his motorhome in the back yard, or find it missing some day when police impounded it. Get all your other neighbors to complain about it too.
I don't have a problem with his motorhome in his backyard (and it's allowed anyway).
As I said before, it started because I wanted that visitors should be able to park wherever it's legal WITHOUT his "soft vandalism" of those on "his side". Talking to him didn't work (made it worse) and once the Cops told him he can't vandalize those cars he became vengeful (how dare someone reported HIM).
It's as simple as that, but some people still don't seem to get it. But I'm sure they would if they visited me and when they were leaving found that their just washed/waxed car had been hosed.