You were not there either,but the only life that was "on the line "was hers...
and HE was the one threating it..
Trying to jaywalk into traffic endangers everyone on the road. If he had let her go, and she got hit ( at the least... not even discussing accidents of people trying to avoid her ) the cop would have been chastised for not stopping her.
He did the right thing. Get over it. Save your energy for a real transgression of power.
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Trying to jaywalk into traffic endangers everyone on the road. If he had let her go, and she got hit ( at the least... not even discussing accidents of people trying to avoid her ) the cop would have been chastised for not stopping her.
He did the right thing. Get over it. Save your energy for a real transgression of power.
OOOooo you got me sold...
You have shown me in your ultimate wisdom how wrong I am ..I do apologize for my transgressions and will now follow ORDERS given to me by my supperiors with no Questions and shall bow my head and believe any and all Edicts that they deamed to hand down to my unworthy life..
I will work for the benefit for my masters as I know they have only my welfare at heart,the good I do for the collective is only outshined by there Fairness and Careing they bequest to me....
Sarcasm....it shall be illegal soon too
You have some warped reality..
What you let them get away with to day they will use to get away with more tomorrow..
We are (Im being U.S. specific)not enacting Laws localy or with oversite as once we did we have let the entre system gradually erode these..What was considered as you put it "real transgression of power" Like a cop beating a woman on the streets in broad daylight ...Was truly abhorrant in the past when we were men and not Lemmons as you seem to want us regulated as...
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Even with a "170" IQ, you just cannot seem to understand. Sorry brother.
No, i understand all too well what its like on the other side of this equation. What its like to approach an unknown threat, with your life in the balance.. I doubt few people here ever have.
No, i understand all too well what its like on the other side of this equation. What its like to approach an unknown threat, with your life in the balance.. I doubt few people here ever have.
Been There Done That...Got my own scars..
And dont want to see any one else in harms way,like the lady we have seen beaten..
if i refuse to cooperate and resist arrest, i deserve it. ( note, i wouldn't do either so wouldn't be getting a beat down )
Right, because the police never beat someone who is cooperating. [/sarcasm]
Dream worlds, it would be nice if we could all live in one.
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LAFAYETTE, IN — An officer has been allowed to keep his job and face no legal consequences after accosting a paralyzed and dumping him out of his wheelchair into the street.
No, i understand all too well what its like on the other side of this equation. What its like to approach an unknown threat, with your life in the balance.. I doubt few people here ever have.
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Originally posted by fireboss:
Been There Done That...Got my own scars..
And dont want to see any one else in harms way,like the lady we have seen beaten..
X2 for me.
@ Fieroboss... My fourth was filled with dinosaurs. Walking with the dinosaurs was in town, and I took my son. Epic to say the least.
I don't know what lead up to the beginning of the video, but I do think he went too far. I agree with the stop and even the arrest. But the way it was done was wrong. I would think he could have got the same results with and arm bar then rolling her over.
Doing the right thing the wrong way can be just as bad. That said...
When I was much younger I worked with a guy, very friendly and always talking. Came into work and he was sitting in the corner of the break room. This went on for a couple of days so I asked, seems he was driving home from work and an elderly lady stepped out in front of him on the highway. In a blink of an eye her life was over and his was changed forever. I worked there for a couple of months and he was never the same.
The woman shouldn't have been on the side of the highway, the home she left said she was depressed and it could have been a suicide. We will never know. It would have been nice if there was someone that could have stopped her.
He is probably still thinking about that morning. I heard she pretty much just fell in pieces when he hit her. He was doing 65 and on his way home after a 12 hour shift. Still lived with his mom, his life hadn't even started yet. If she would have been a little faster and not have been hit on the corner of his van she would have went into his windshield and could have ended both of their lives. I'm sure he wished that had happened more than once.
You cant always know what is on someones mind. Rules are in place for all of our safty.
@ Fieroboss... My fourth was filled with dinosaurs. Walking with the dinosaurs was in town, and I took my son. Epic to say the least.
I had to take a double take when I read bout the dinos....Then had to google It Bet he had to have had a blast..I don't have ank kids but I would always take my necies and nephews out to the shows and parade when they were younger....glad it was fun..
Cool.... Now let me get back on topic....
YEAH take that...
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....... refused to follow orders. She got what she deserved.
I refuse to follow orders too.....I am not IN the military or aviation anymore, and havent been since 2004 (10 years) and any uniform that thinks they are gonna bark orders at me has another thought coming their way---I am a free man subject to no human, and intend to remain that way.
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"Non-confrontational calmness" is not something I usually associate with the vast majority of people posting here - quite to the contrary.
I can totally understand your thinking. You view is limited from your particular perch.
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Originally posted by Formula88:
Here's a crazy idea. Maybe police officers could be taught how to subdue someone other than "punch them in the head until they stop moving." Nah. At least the cop didn't kill her to keep her safe.
Quoted for truth.
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Originally posted by Nurb432:
Take away the option to tackle the person, then that is about all that is left.
Are you in any way familiar with proper procedure and training regarding subduing an irrational person??
I don't think you are based on your response. I think you are just talking out of your ass.
Are you aware that law enforcement is (supposed to be) regularly trained to avoid hitting people directly in the face with their hands?
I can see possibly not having riot gear like bean bags available but they all have tasers! WTF? Light hi, up ike a xmas tree!. I certainly would not have let him get his hands near me.
Late that the party here but that cop was way out of line. I can't hardly believe what utter pussies the police have become. Whimps, poor training, no technique bad judgment. Maybe he should have just shot her and been done with it. Shouldn't be on the job.
Jay walking, really, what next. Does anybody here even know what the punishment for jaywalking is? here is a clue, it not getting shiit beat out of you.
I hope her lowlife (as called right here) family successfully sues. There is only one way to curb this pig attitude, well you can always beat on them but make dam sure you are in the right.................... and can prove it ......
Originally posted by V8 Vega: This story is in the news here. The lady if you can call her that is a homeless bum known to cause trouble And now I heard this morning the family of the parasite is taking advantage of the situation to sue someone, the state I guess. Their big chance has come at last.
What I do not know is if there was resistance after the cops first turned her around but, what I did see was her hands attempting to grab or claw at the cop, and as soon as she took her hand away to protect herself, the cop stopped punching.
I do not want some fool pedestrian causing me to get my car smashed up, the CHP did another good job here, IMHO.
I believe she did not comply with a lawful order from a police officer. I believe he was within his rights to take her into custody. I believe he used excessive force in doing so.
But...the one thing he could not afford to do was lose control of the situation. Suspects can grab guns, pull a knife, run out into the street, etc. So the amount of force he needed to use to control the situation at the moment is left to his judgment. But the one thing that was imperative for him once she physically & dangerously resisted a lawful order, was to neutralize that danger. He chose the level of force he thought was appropriate.
After the fact, it will be left to others to determine if his judgment was correct or not. But in the moment...he went with his instinct & training. "Control the situation".
Many people have lots to say about police officers doing their jobs. Unfortunately, few could actually do it with the non-confrontational calmness they preach from their easychair...it can get a little rougher then simply talking them into handcuffs.
Sounds reasonable to me.
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Sick, as I said. There are better ways to deal with such a situation. ...
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Originally posted by Nurb432: ... Try being a cop for a week.
I think he'd get his clock cleaned. Or worse.
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In the past decade, civil suits against the NYPD have more than doubled, hitting a record high of 9,500 in 2012, according to CBS Local. They've cost taxpayers $1 billion dollars and tend to result from such outstanding police work as making false arrests and shooting people's pets.
Now, the city might be on the hook for $90 billion thanks to a NYPD officer who got wasted and just started shooting at a parked car for no reason.
According to the AP, the two men suing the department -- Joseph Felice and Robert Borrelli -- were waiting at a red light when the off-duty officer unloaded 14 shots into their vehicle. One man was hit 6 times, but his friend was able to rush him to the hospital in time to save his life. "I honestly don't know how we survived this unprovoked ambush, or why he chose to single out Joe and myself for his vicious rampage," Borrelli said, according to the AP.
Court documents obtained by the Lohud Journal News show that the officer told police that he hit the bar after a day spent training at an NYPD shooting range. He had 10 drinks there and says he doesn't remember much of what happened next. In addition to the civil suit, he faces charges of attempted murder, first-degree assault and driving while intoxicated, reports the AP.
EVERYBODY should know by now that as soon as a Cop decides you are "resisting" he's gonna beat the crap out of you if that's what it takes to get the cuffs on.
"Resisting" includes not following his orders or even stating "I didn't do anything wrong..." He's already decided you have and that you have no right to "question" his authority.
She got $1.8 million in settlement from CHP for the beating she took.
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The woman who was captured on cellphone video being beaten by a California Highway Patrol officer on the side of a Los Angeles freeway reached a $1.5 million settlement with the department on Wednesday, according to her attorney, Caree Harper.
The settlement includes a provision that the officer involved will resign.
It (the video) showed 51-year-old Marlene Pinnock walking away from the officer on the side of the freeway.
He could then be seen walked up behind her, grabbing her and throwing her to the ground. He then straddled the great-grandmother and began repeatedly punching her in the face and upper body.
The beating lasted for up to 15 seconds, according to the video.
Marlene Pinnock was repeatedly punched on July 1, 2014, by a CHP officer in an incident caught on cellphone video. (Credit: KTLA) Marlene Pinnock was repeatedly punched on July 1, 2014, by a CHP officer in an incident caught on cellphone video. (Credit: KTLA) On Wednesday evening, CHP Commissioner Joe Farrow issued the following statement:
“When this incident occurred, I promised that I would look into it and vowed a swift resolution. Today, we have worked constructively to reach a settlement agreement that is satisfactory to all parties involved.
I am thankful to the attorneys representing both sides who worked cooperatively and diligently to resolve this civil lawsuit.
The bulk of the settlement establishes a special needs trust for Ms. Pinnock to provide a mechanism for her long term care. Additionally, Officer Andrew has elected to resign.
I very much appreciate the trust the public has placed in our organization to address this issue and resolve it responsibly.”
you got me sold...
Hi Tony how was your 4th?
...Then had to google It 
Bet he had to have had a blast..I don't have ank kids but I would always take my necies and nephews out to the shows and parade when they were younger....glad it was fun..
