Then you quote Sharpton? This guy has more legal cover ups than our prez. You follow some evil people.
Thanks for the negs **** sucker.
Not sure if he did neg you, but I'd at least like to clarify that I changed my rating of you to - earlier today. Sorry Tony but you seem to be changing into quite a bitter person in the last few months and your more recent posting has been quite rude. No hard feelings.
As far as the situation regarding the topic... No surprise coming from this administration, there are very troubling times for America indeed.
Not sure if he did neg you, but I'd at least like to clarify that I changed my rating of you to - earlier today. Sorry Tony but you seem to be changing into quite a bitter person in the last few months and your more recent posting has been quite rude. No hard feelings.
As far as the situation regarding the topic... No surprise coming from this administration, there are very troubling times for America indeed.
Thank you. And yes, a plus for your honesty. But sorry you feel that way. Perhaps I should have negged you when you and Steve were swapping jabs. Hey, kick a man when he is down.
By President Obama ...and he wasn't forgotten by his country, because the United States of America does not ever leave our men and women in uniform behind. ...
Well, I guess Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone S. Woods weren't in "uniform" at the time, so it's all good.
Apparently Bowe has forgotten how to speak English. His father addresses him in Arabic at the podium after Obama finishes speaking. Does anyone know what he said? It's at the 4 minute mark.
Perhaps I should have negged you when you and Steve were swapping jabs. Hey, kick a man when he is down.
Tony.. Think of how much of your life you are wasting pissing and moaning about a lot of sh*t that you can't control, hell so many people do that here that its no surprise why OT can get so dreary at times. I think you know that I genuinely wish you nothing but the best in your life, but the mindset you have is NOT working. I hope you can adapt and change yourself for the better
Perhaps you should've negged me when a bitter/ senile old man was harassing me and blowing a legal gray area that I took advantage of out of proportion? Makes sense.. It is a free country after all
Originally posted by Formula88: Does anyone know what he said? It's at the 4 minute mark.
According to Boondawg we don't. And we don't, unless some one speaks Taliban. It is reported he praised and thanked Allah. No one is denying it. It is also said that his dad's beard is in sympathy for the Taliban. There are also troubling tweets of his dad's, after the Rose Garden ceremony celebrating Bergdahls release, which have since been removed. Supposedly assuring all Gitmo detainees that he will not rest until they are all released. In repayment for all the Afghan children we killed. Think of the children.
All of us must at least admit that we don't really know anything about the capture, imprisonment, negotiation, trade, etc. or any of the gathered & collected intel what-so-ever about this situation other then what the "news sources" tell us....
More importantly, we don't know anything that Boondawg means, because if you think you do - you're wrong. Many humans have evolved to communicate thoughts and ideas with language. Boondawg is beyond such constraints as thought and language, and is therefore incomprehensible to anyone who isn't Boondawg.
“What none of these media is reporting is that the father’s (SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father Bob) first words at the WH were in Arabic – those words were “bism allah alrahman alraheem” – which means “in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful” – these are the opening words of every chapter of the Qur’an except one (the chapter of the sword – the 9th) – by uttering these words on the grounds of the WH, Bergdahl (the father) sanctified the WH and claimed it for Islam. There is no question but POTUS knows this.”
I have listen to the men who served with Bergdahl,in extensive radio interviews they concider him a deserter & traitor . right after he walked away the enemy seem to have more precise information where to shoot there mortars & where to hit the base ..Previously these men would not speak ,,this man should return to the USA in chain,s & be hung ! Our military leaders are furious,boiling with rage ,except for the Obumbles lap dogs star gazers Obumble has increase the power of our enemies & thier WAR fighting ability & aided them,, this is an act of WAR against America by her president absolutely amazing .. impeachment talk has begun.. America has more & more traitors like Snowden & Bergcrapola .because there is no real punishment,..many of our school & university instructors teach hatred of America we have been greatly demished & shamed by Obumbles & the democrats aho seem to hate America .. we are falling from within & the world will be greatly harmed by our failure every American should come home ,but this was a bad trade the GITMO 5 are the worst of the worse the taliban killer elite release to fight & kill us again there are still millions who love the rat fornicator Obumbles who will free killers to kill Americans again
write your congressmen & Senators to Impeach Obumbles for selling us out & returning the worst killers to the battlefield to kill Americans . He has aided our enemies ,if we had captured Goring or Himmler in WW2 would we have release them ???
“What none of these media is reporting is that the father’s (SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father Bob) first words at the WH were in Arabic – those words were “bism allah alrahman alraheem” – which means “in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful” – these are the opening words of every chapter of the Qur’an except one (the chapter of the sword – the 9th) – by uttering these words on the grounds of the WH, Bergdahl (the father) sanctified the WH and claimed it for Islam. There is no question but POTUS knows this.”
Originally posted by newf: Hahahahahaha, Allen West is always good for a laugh.
Hahahahahaha, you are too, . Did he lie ? Allen West is held in more esteem than Bergdahl for reason.
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Originally posted by newf: It seems it ok to believe the "lame stream media" when it can be skewed to fit the hate and fear. Otherwise you can't trust anything "they" say.
“What none of these media is reporting is that the father’s (SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father Bob) first words at the WH were in Arabic – those words were “bism allah alrahman alraheem” – which means “in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful” – these are the opening words of every chapter of the Qur’an except one (the chapter of the sword – the 9th) – by uttering these words on the grounds of the WH, Bergdahl (the father) sanctified the WH and claimed it for Islam. There is no question but POTUS knows this.”
I saw that. I didn't post it before because I was hoping someone would recognize what he said in the video so we could see if it matches the explanation on Col. West's page. I don't want to read something into it that isn't there, but I have a hard time believing his son forgot English in 5 years.
Originally posted by newf: Lie about the underlying meaning? I would say so.
That's quite an allegation to make against a US war hero Mr Pot. Of one who overcame much to serve, and then went on to serve with honors and who achieved high rank. Who went on to serve in Congress. Would you care to debate his thoughts with me ? It would be easy for me to defend his opinion.
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Originally posted by newf: Oh I'm sure I have been guilty but I try not to believe only one source.
Let me guess. You were only guilty when it fit your needs.
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Originally posted by newf: Some here seem to believe a headline from anywhere.
Wow, another unsubstantiated allegation. I suppose you are accusing those that believed George Zimmerman was guilty before trial, those that believed Twana Browley was really brutalized by cops with their night sticks, those that believed the Duke University Lacross rape victim was indeed a rape victim. Rock on, .
Wow, another unsubstantiated allegation. I suppose you are accusing those that believed George Zimmerman was guilty before trial, those that believed Twana Browley was really brutalized by cops with their night sticks, those that believed the Duke University Lacross rape victim was indeed a rape victim. Rock on, .
You can try to put words in my mouth hoping I will continue to give you things to respond to but I really don't care. I'm sure you'll find lots of other things to be upset about today!
Tony.. Think of how much of your life you are wasting pissing and moaning about a lot of sh*t that you can't control, hell so many people do that here that its no surprise why OT can get so dreary at times. I think you know that I genuinely wish you nothing but the best in your life, but the mindset you have is NOT working. I hope you can adapt and change yourself for the better
Perhaps you should've negged me when a bitter/ senile old man was harassing me and blowing a legal gray area that I took advantage of out of proportion? Makes sense.. It is a free country after all
I know that I have been posting some pretty cool **** lately. At least I think it is.
You know I love ya mang. Perhaps I am stirring the pot a bit, but I am ok with that. I am not out to ruin anyone's life, but when I smell BS, I have no issues with fanning it away.
Mullah 'toilet straw sucker' Omar celebrates the big victory ,he called it ""big victory"' the return of his 5 killer buddies ..taliban fired weapons in air & came as close to tallywacker street dancing shuffle as close as they could come !! Omar is the head of the Taliban known as Omar the one eye tent maker.. Bergdahl is a less than a ""gnat"" to Toilet sucking ,award winning ,champion OMAR,,,,,HOW STUPID COULD THE AMERICANS BE??
have you checked out Talli dad?? a bone ni fied genuine crazy lib,, the spoiled rotten apple did not fall far from the tree house Bergdahls buddies concider him a traitor..special forces would not risk a man to try & save a turncoat ,Traitor ..
.............Special forces knew the location of Bergdahl ,,but refuse to go get him
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“What none of these media is reporting is that the father’s (SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father Bob) first words at the WH were in Arabic – those words were “bism allah alrahman alraheem” – which means “in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful” – these are the opening words of every chapter of the Qur’an except one (the chapter of the sword – the 9th) – by uttering these words on the grounds of the WH, Bergdahl (the father) sanctified the WH and claimed it for Islam. There is no question but POTUS knows this.”
After the father said this Obama hugged him. There is no question Obama loves Islam, and thats why he let go 5 of his buddies I just heard on the radio this is one of the most outrageous act in the history of the republic. http://allenbwest.com/2014/...-white-house-arabic/
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Originally posted by Taijiguy: “What none of these media is reporting is that the father’s (SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father Bob) first words at the WH were in Arabic – those words were “bism allah alrahman alraheem” – which means “in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful” – these are the opening words of every chapter of the Qur’an except one (the chapter of the sword – the 9th) – by uttering these words on the grounds of the WH, Bergdahl (the father) sanctified the WH and claimed it for Islam. There is no question but POTUS knows this.”
“What none of these media is reporting is that the father’s (SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father Bob) first words at the WH were in Arabic – those words were “bism allah alrahman alraheem” – which means “in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful” – these are the opening words of every chapter of the Qur’an except one (the chapter of the sword – the 9th) – by uttering these words on the grounds of the WH, Bergdahl (the father) sanctified the WH and claimed it for Islam. There is no question but POTUS knows this.”
That was difficult to watch without emotions. What a POS our government is. You know that our president has knowledge of those that lost their lives searching for this "probable" traitor. Then, to have the father speak in such a tongue on hallowed ground... What weakness our nation shown.
That was difficult to watch without emotions. What a POS our government is. You know that our president has knowledge of those that lost their lives searching for this "probable" traitor. Then, to have the father speak in such a tongue on hallowed ground... What weakness our nation shown.
I don't know if I'd call the White House (or any government installation) "hallowed ground" although if you believe the interpretation on West's website, it is now that Bergdahl's father santified it in the name of Allah. I don't know if that translation is accurate, nor the meaning behind it. The literal translation seems innocuous enough out of context.
I'm also curious why so little mention of the remaining captives and why we did a 5:1 trade when we could have bargained for the other 3 and they still would have come out ahead.
If all the Guantanamo prisoners had been executed, or at least tried and sentenced, there would be none of this going on. They should just let them all out in a yard full of wild boars and leave them.
Originally posted by Formula88: I'm also curious why so little mention of the remaining captives and why we did a 5:1 trade when we could have bargained for the other 3 and they still would have come out ahead.
The answer may be that they simply handled this as well as everything else they touch.
Boone has a point though that "we" certainly are not in the full information circle, one would hope that there is something, ANYTHING!, that would make this NOT as it appears.
There's a column about this on the Bloomberg News website. Here's an excerpt:
"An administration official, responding to the Republican reaction, said the threat posed by the detainees would be sufficiently mitigated and that the agreement was in U.S. national-security interests."...
Taliban "Dream Team" detainees transferred to one year custody in Qatar An olive branch extended to the Taliban. Will this help pave the way for a political agreement with the legendary "reconcilable" elements of the Taliban? That would be a WIN.
Establishes a ransom "price point" that encourages other attempts to kidnap or capture Americans or uniformed soldiers I don't think that this provides any more incentive than terror groups and extremists already have
Dealing with Sgt. Berghdal and his "irregular" exfiltration of the army base in Afghanistan I wouldn't be surprised if the administration manages to bury this issue like a canister of radioactive waste. However, if it were up to me, there would be (after a decent yet brief interval) a formal Army investigation, and if there is a finding of malfeasance, rescind all of his promotions, reduce his rank to Private and discharge him. Maybe even a dishonorable discharge. Maybe sentence him to some community service. Can't imprison him again--bad "optics". The Taliban already handled that for us.
Taliban "Dream Team" detainees transferred to one year custody in Qatar An olive branch extended to the Taliban. Will this help pave the way for a political agreement with the legendary "reconcilable" elements of the Taliban? That would be a WIN. ... .
The answer may be that they simply handled this as well as everything else they touch.
Boone has a point though that "we" certainly are not in the full information circle, one would hope that there is something, ANYTHING!, that would make this NOT as it appears.
Taliban "Dream Team" detainees transferred to one year custody in Qatar An olive branch extended to the Taliban. Will this help pave the way for a political agreement with the legendary "reconcilable" elements of the Taliban? That would be a WIN.
Establishes a ransom "price point" that encourages other attempts to kidnap or capture Americans or uniformed soldiers I don't think that this provides any more incentive than terror groups and extremists already have
Dealing with Sgt. Berghdal and his "irregular" exfiltration of the army base in Afghanistan I wouldn't be surprised if the administration manages to bury this issue like a canister of radioactive waste. However, if it were up to me, there would be (after a decent yet brief interval) a formal Army investigation, and if there is a finding of malfeasance, rescind all of his promotions, reduce his rank to Private and discharge him. Maybe even a dishonorable discharge. Maybe sentence him to some community service. Can't imprison him again--bad "optics". The Taliban already handled that for us.
Once again you show your true colors. "Legendary reconcilable elements of the taliban"? Are you ****ing serious?!
Edit: Are you advocating we open up talks with the taliban? Are you really saying that these murderous, raping, plotting cave dwellers should be brought to a table to discuss an agreement with the United States of America?
You preach that you know a lot about them... join them.
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(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.”
Does the UCMJ define a "time of war" solely as action under a formal Declaration of War, or any hostilities authorized by Congress and the administration? Sounds like he should be facing a death sentence if convicted.
"Legendary" does not refer to the Taliban. It refers to the term "reconcilable".
I doubt that it would be a face-to-face negotiation with the U.S. More likely with the national government of Afghanistan, and the U.S. would sign on as a third party, after the Afghan government and the Taliban have signed.
In case you haven't noticed, the U.S. generals have been talking about a political agreement and cessation of hostilities with the Taliban for years. I can't remember the last time that anyone said "We are going to completely eradicate the Taliban from Afghanistan". Ain't happening.
That might have been the idea when the first U.S. forces went into Afghanistan in October, 2001. Or maybe that was just what the Bush (43) administration wanted the public to think. Or maybe no one ever said that was going to happen at any time. But eliminating the Taliban has not been an objective since the very first years of the war.
No one is going to commit the scale of resources that would now be required to eradicate the Taliban.
Dude.. you really should check out some news websites.
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Seems our good friend and Hero Bergdahl not only cooperated with our good friends the Taliban, but also renounced his citizenship in the "Great Satan" us of A