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V6 Tachometer Schematic by PePe-LePu_For_2
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V6 Tachometer Schematic
Because I could never find a schematic of the tachometer used in my V6 Fieros, I decided to reverse engineer one and create a schematic. The board featured here is GM P/N 25071424B it is out of an 88 GT. It uses an LM1819 Air Core Meter Driver IC having GM P/N 25054339. If you download the data sheet for this now obsolete IC, you will notice a reference design schematic. The engineers at GM closely followed that example but not at the100% level. One of several deviations is the use of a resistor network for which I have assigned the reference designator RN1. This resistor network contains five of the seven resistors used in the design. If you remove RN1 from the board and turn it upside down, you will see the pinout printed on the underside. I used that pinout to identify the individual resistors on the schematic as well as on the PCB. All resistors and capacitors were lifted from the board and their values measured.

I’m posting this as a reference for members to consult. I’m not looking to start a dialog on the topic. In other words, I won’t be looking to answer any questions about it. I hope this effort is of some use to someone.



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which screws go to the oil guage?im trying to fix mine.i have the replacement board off ebay.
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Originally posted by richard in nc:

which screws go to the oil guage?im trying to fix mine.i have the replacement board off ebay.


OP said that his schematic is of an 88 GT tachometer, which has doesn't have an oil pressure gauge in the tachometer.
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Originally posted by richard in nc:

which screws go to the oil guage?im trying to fix mine.i have the replacement board off ebay.


The bottom three open ones.

Not all tach boards are set up for oil pressure gauges. For example in many 84s there was a voltage gauge there, not an oil pressure gauge.
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Very cool. Thank you for figuring this out and posting the schematic. It will be useful to someone sometime somewhere.
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Also found this about the Fiero tach.
http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/tach.html

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Back in 2016, PFF member Chris Eddy was working on a prototype replacement tach board - Planning a universal tach PC board, and help with tachometer math

I took some photos and measurements at that time to try and assist Chris. Here's a couple of photos that may be of interest to anyone who might wish to poke around with their tachometers.



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Patrick, just curious as to what year and engine the tach in your pic above is from? I noticed it has an oil pressure gauge built into the lower section of it. I do know that the tach in your pic is not from 86-88 GT cars. Kit

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Patrick, just curious as to what year and engine the tach in your pic above is from? I noticed it has an oil pressure gauge built into the lower section of it. I do know that your pic is not from 86-88 GT cars. Kit
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Originally posted by Kitskaboodle:

Patrick, just curious as to what year and engine the tach in your pic above is from? I noticed it has an oil pressure gauge built into the lower section of it. I do know that the tach in your pic is not from 86-88 GT cars. Kit



That’s an 85 V6 tachometer, either SE or GT.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

Back in 2016, PFF member Chris Eddy was working on a prototype replacement tach board -



I'm not sure, but these tach boards for 4-cyl, V6, V8 may be his.
https://www.wc-autoparts.co...meter-circuit-board/
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Originally posted by Kitskaboodle:

Patrick, just curious as to what year and engine the tach in your pic above is from?


Kit, I have so much Fiero stuff here that I have no idea where/what this tach was originally from. Judging from the red line, it would not have been a duke. So it would've been from a V6 Fiero that did not have a center console gauge cluster. Possibly an '85 GT?

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Originally posted by pmbrunelle:

That’s an 85 V6 tachometer, either SE or GT.

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Originally posted by fierosound:

I'm not sure, but these tach boards for 4-cyl, V6, V8 may be his.


Tony, judging from the discussion in This thread, I believe Chris moved on from the project... although he did say that one of the boards was of his design.
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Thanks Patrick.
Ironically, my silver Fiero is an 85 GT. However, the cluster swap and aux. gauge pkg. was one of the first things I did when I got the car. I do remember that the original one had the 85 mph speedo but I don’t remember (when I swapped it out) that it had an oil gauge at the bottom. Now that I think about it, I probably have the 85 cluster stashed in my garage. I just forgot about it. 😊
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Originally posted by Kitskaboodle:

Now that I think about it, I probably have the (fill in the blank) stashed in my garage. I just forgot about it. 😊


In my case it's the basement where I've stored most of my stuff... but yeah, I have the same problem!
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I did have a project some years ago for a replacement tach that could do oil or not, it used a Microchip PIC to drive the movement. If someone has experience with embedded programming and electronics, I would transfer what I have to you to take over.. please contact direct, I do not get on the board very often any more. ceddy@nb.net.
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