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Stripped AC wiring while dropping cradle by tnkgnr
Started on: 04-11-2022 08:38 PM
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Last post by: tnkgnr on 04-17-2022 09:43 PM
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Report this Post04-11-2022 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tnkgnrSend a Private Message to tnkgnrEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Dropped the cradle out of the car and the AC wiring was the casualty (forgot to disconnect). I know where the wire goes that I'm holding in the pic, but where does that larger one go that's stripped?
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Report this Post04-12-2022 12:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
black wires are often Ground but not always.

You need to find the other end.

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Report this Post04-13-2022 03:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TrintenSend a Private Message to TrintenEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Also, if you can't find the end, you can try elimination.

You can try using this diagram.

http://cliff.hostkansas.com...7FieroEng_wire_1.jpg

(Credit goes to PFF member Mike Gonzalez for posting that image in this thread: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/...110502-2-103239.html - I posted a link to the image because the image is larger that how it shows in the thread, but couldn't find a way to make it larger in the forum view).
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Report this Post04-13-2022 05:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Also Ω meter to the block or frame read 0Ω can tell is likely a ground but still find other end to be sure.

Look at left front of engine bay too.
Is 1 black ground from engine to frame there and if this is it, likely find other 1/2 of the broken wire.

Is this is bad then is a "backup" return ground to the block and alternator.
Main ground is braided ground block to lid frame.
Main ground isn't neg battery cable or small wire to battery... That big cable mainly only return ground for the starter. Small wire if there does same thing as other small grounds.
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Report this Post04-13-2022 06:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for skywurzClick Here to visit skywurz's HomePageSend a Private Message to skywurzEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I don't think its ground the ac clutch wires tend to be black.
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Report this Post04-13-2022 07:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
AC clutch wires are GREEN power and BLACK block ground.
Both are heavy gage on the Fiero.
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Report this Post04-14-2022 09:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tnkgnrSend a Private Message to tnkgnrEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the input guys.
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Report this Post04-14-2022 11:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
If it is AC clutch wires...
The Plug to the coil have a diode to stop major back feed power surges that can blow ECM Radio and more.
Same reason many Car Relay coils have diode built into them but AC coil is way Way bigger that dumps 600+ volts and plenty of amps when coil is turn off. Enough to jump the AC Relay contacts to kill that and other things.

Very likely that diode broke too and must be replace.
Is why many "pigtail" for AC coil has the diode and wires connected.

Example: Dorman 85143 https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-20711-85143.aspx
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Originally posted by theogre:

If it is AC clutch wires...
The Plug to the coil have a diode to stop major back feed power surges that can blow ECM Radio and more.
Same reason many Car Relay coils have diode built into them but AC coil is way Way bigger that dumps 600+ volts and plenty of amps when coil is turn off. Enough to jump the AC Relay contacts to kill that and other things.

Very likely that diode broke too and must be replace.
Is why many "pigtail" for AC coil has the diode and wires connected.

Example: Dorman 85143 https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-20711-85143.aspx


Fortunately that one is still accounted for.
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