Guys, I'd like to know if the innards of a power mirror be transferred into a manual mirror frame?

Basically installing the powered mirror mechanism into a manual mirrored frame. Do they have the same
mounting points inside. How do you take them apart? Is there a release clip or retainer to pull??

This would be a great help not just for me, but others that have thought of doing this in the past.

TIA,

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fierogt28

88 GT, Loaded, 5-speed.
88 GT, 5-speed. Beechwood interior, All original.

I've been thinking about this myself, one of the things I want to add once I finish my 3800 swap.

Supposedly the glass just pulls off, apply even pressure from two sides and it should come off with some oomph.
Haven't tried it yet, so I'm not liable if you shatter yours, but I have 2 extra mirrors from a parts car that I was getting ready to try it on.

quote Originally posted by DKcustoms: I've been thinking about this myself, one of the things I want to add once I finish my 3800 swap. Supposedly the glass just pulls off, apply even pressure from two sides and it should come off with some oomph. Haven't tried it yet, so I'm not liable if you shatter yours, but I have 2 extra mirrors from a parts car that I was getting ready to try it on.

Is it simply stuck on, or there is a clip of somewhat?

I have a good idea that the glass mirror is stuck on with an adhesive to a plastic frame, that the frame is clipped into
the innards of the power mirror motors.

The power mirror "guts" won't bolt up to a non-power mirror housing......the mounting points are all wrong, so they are not interchangeable. There are differences in the motors too as well as the glass and how they mount to the motors.....your best bet is to find a Fiero with power mirrors and grab all that you need. If you try to build a kit from a few different cars then you may wind up with mis-matched parts.

I'm doing this swap right now, sort of. I have full manual doors and I'm swapping them out for full power doors; had to get the doors, both the power window/lock harness and power mirror harness, power lock relay, jumper block (i forget the name, near the base of the driver's side a-pillar), switches, and switch panel...I think that's it. There's writeups around you can follow.

If you want to see exactly how the mirror housings are different, I can get some pictures in a day or two, but as I remember the power housing has different mounting points, and a hole in the side for the wiring to pass through. If you had power housings, it probably wouldn't be hard to install them to a manual mirror door, but you'd have to take off the inner door panel to get at the bolts and run the wires.


EDIT: see below, I'm partially full of **** .

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Sure...good for reference.

I was tinkering tonight and apparently, on the passenger side, it's all identical. You can pull the guts out of a power mirror on the PASSENGER side, and swap them over to a manual housing. This seems to confirm what this thread says:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...110502-2-104826.html

Apparently, the driver's side cannot swap, and you'd have to move the whole mirror assembly. I have some pictures of the passenger side, I'll post them all when I get a chance to dig into the driver's side.

Okay, finally got around to this. Car is an 88 Formula, originally equipped with manual mirrors (and windows, and locks, if it matters).
First off, the original passenger-side housing:


The passenger side power housing from a fastback, don't remember the year:

The mirror bracket is installed.

You can put the power mirror bracket into the manual mirror housing, like so:

You can also see the round hole that the wire passes through is present on both the manual and power mirror housings. On the manual housing, it's covered by a piece of tape or paper or something, I easily poked through it.

The driver's side is a different story. My (extremely gross) manual driver's mirror, with the cable removed:

Notice the oval hole for the cable passthrough. If you're ever looking at a housing and want to know if it's power or manual, look at that. Power (or power-capable) housings will have a circular hole, manual mirrors will be oval.

Power driver's mirror from the donor:

You can see how the mounting points for the glass are different as well. I didn't tear this one apart as much, so you can see the grommet and the wiring that's attached to the motor, which is less than a foot long.

Just for funsies, here's a picture of the motor, and the harness extender that's hidden inside the door.


The connectors at either end of the extender mate to each other, that's why I call it an 'extender'. You can plug the mirror motor (removed from the door) into the cabin harness just fine, but the harness won't reach once it's installed on the door, hence the extender.

With the extender, motor, the bracket seen above, and the glass, you could convert a passenger side manual mirror door to power. I don't know if the glass itself differs, but I believe it does. I haven't gotten my hands on either power or manual mirror glass for the passenger side yet, but if I find some I'll update this thread again.

[This message has been edited by boxen (edited 05-30-2015).]