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Side scoops advice by NetCam
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I'm looking at side scoops, as I've never really gotten over the fact that GM didn't at least make a fake scoop on the right side of the car for the sake of symmetry. I know you can't ever see both sides of the car at the same time, but I still know it's there .

Wondering if anybody would like to share their experiences with aftermarket scoops. I've looked at these

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Has anybody used these and did their own drilling and cutting out of the scoops? I'm already so far over budget that I can't even bring myself to add up all my receipts, but wondering if it's worth the extra $100 to get them drilled and cut (as opposed to doing it myself and possibly screwing it up). Are there any other options out there besides FieroFibrerlass.com?
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Or these?? Anyone have pictures of these on a completed car?



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I don't know if my picture will post
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Looks like you didn't get the [img] and [/img] tags in the right place
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Thanks, I never can get that to work. I made those about 4 years ago. (68 Corvette)
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A member here on PFF some time ago posted photos of his white fastback GT in a "white Fieros thread" in GFC. He had used FIAT X1/9 side vents in place of the stock vent and on the passenger side for symmetry. If you're not familiar with them, they were thin rectangular vents that were used on both sides of the X1/9. If you Google a FIAT X1/9 you'll see what they look like. Now getting a set may be difficult as it's getting harder to find an X1/9, but it'll be cheaper getting a set of those than buying aftermarket quarter panels.

Also as of note; The very first Fiero made didn't have a side intake vent at all, but all subsequent build cars would have the intake. It does a good job for what it is.
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The Fiero Warehouse IMSA scoops.





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I like those ones from the Fiero Warehouse, the look good and seem to fit with the lines of the car. What was used for mesh there?
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Make your own! A tube of Fusor 114 and some scrap door skin and you can do it in a weekend, easily.






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Fiero Warehouse Ribbed IMSA

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Just got mine today from Fiero Fiberglass (the ones in the first pic). They are well made and only look like they need some minor bodywork to get them ready for paint. I paid the extra $100 bucks for the cutting and drilling, money well spent IMO. It looks like the drilling may be pretty straightforward but cutting out the vents could be a bit tricky.
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I like the first set but arn't they for GT only?
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I like the first set but arn't they for GT only?
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Yes, they're made for the GT only, but they also have a set for the non-GT

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The Fiero Warehouse vents fit perfectly. I had to elongate one hole, by about 3/16". That's it.
IMHO, pay the extra for whatever "finishing" you need, unless you know that you're really good at it.
I paid for vents cut, finish prime, and screens.
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Originally posted by bjc 350:

Make your own! A tube of Fusor 114 and some scrap door skin and you can do it in a weekend, easily.





Is there a diy page somewhere that shows how to male the ones in the first pic?


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Originally posted by NetCam:
Anyone have pictures of these on a completed car?


The unfinished scoops pictured above are from The Fiero Warehouse, and are of excellent quality. Their scoop is what I have on my Fiero, but rendered fully functional. How to do that is outlined in this archived thread titled, "pictures of side scoops-please post yours" ( //www.fiero.nl/forum/A...090219-2-085430.html ).

You'd inquired about pictures on a completed car having these scoops.

The finished Fiero Warehouse side scoop I have on my Fiero looks very much like the one below, including even the color (but without the "Ram Air V6" emblem pictured in the following photo):


Combined with a "True Cold Air Intake" from Rodney Dickman " (which I also have), it sounds like "Darth Vader stuck on inhale", as one person so aptly put it within the archived thread titled, "Rodney's True Cold Air Intake System" ( //www.fiero.nl/forum/A...110502-2-103192.html ). That sound is most apparent just after initial start-up of a cold Fiero engine.

I'm well aware that the Fiero in stock form already has a fine CAI system , but I like the looks, and the sound, of my set-up, much better.

And no, as I pointed out in the thread I just cited, I've NOT had a problem with my "sealed-off" fully functional set-up sucking up water into the air filter, and my year-round, daily driver sees plenty of inclement weather.

However, as I alluded to in that thread, I deem it unwise (unlike one guy's spouse), to attempt to drive Fieros or any other cars through rivers. Accordingly, unlike some, I avoid doing that.
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However, as I alluded to in that thread, I deem it unwise (unlike one guy's spouse), to attempt to drive Fieros or any other cars through rivers. Accordingly, unlike some, I avoid doing that.


I really liked the look of that side scoop, probably in part because it reminded me of the red Grand Ma that I used to drive. I have to agree on the driving through rivers part, we don't want to end up like a certain Ferrari driver did around the corner from my work in Toronto a few weeks ago

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Fiero Warehouse Ribbed IMSA

I Love them




almost look like AUS stage 3's nice


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Paying for the drilling and cutting is a decision that's pretty easy to make. If you have experience in drilling and cutting fiberglass then it's not worth the money. If you have no experience then it's the best $100 you can spend.

Tools you will need are...

Dremel with several cut off disk's (you will more than likely break several)
Rasp
DA Sander with 120 grit paper
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4 drill bits, sizes 1/2", 1/4", 7/32" & 3/16"

All holes MUST be drilled with the drill running in reverse. If you try to dill the holes in forward speed you WILL break the mounting points off and then have to repair them. You will need to drill 33 holes per side! Then you will need to use the Dremel with cut off disks to finish off some of the mounting openings. Then you will need the Dremel with cut off disks to cut out the scoop opening. Now use the rasp to smooth out the opening cutting. Now use the DA Sander to smooth out the rasp marks and sand the panel to be ready for priming.

Count on spending 8-12 hours with no experience. It takes me 6 hours to get a set ready for shipping and I have drilled & cut more than 100 sets.

Make sure you wear safety goggles and do this outside. It's gonna make a mess!
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Is there diy on how to make the first ones?
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The first set I pictured is sort of like an IMSA style and the only set of those I have made up. Basically, you mark the cutout shape on the stock 1/4 panel and then I use a Skil circular saw to cut the flap open, stopping short at the corners so they can be radiused with a jigsaw. I then cut fillers in the shape I want the opening to remain when finished. Get everything fitted, and then apply the Fusor adhesive and clamp as best you can. The drivers side has to be cut out, then a filler made to complete the flap área where the Factory air intake was. The IMSA style required that I heat the flap to get it to bend sharp enough without distorting the 1/4 panel.
Be sure to sand to bare surface wherever the adhesive will be applied. I sometimes make enough of these up for my friend to sell on EBay. We have sold around 15 sets over the last few years, and then I have made up some for several of my cars. Likely there will be some available this winter. Too busy now to make any up.

Here is a picture of the backside of my standard opening unit.



Friends Formula with an early set. They have been revised to have an extra inch of width between the Wheel opening and the trailing edge of the cutout.

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I've gone through all the photos I can find, but can't seem to locate one of these scoops (Fiero Warehouse) with the GT ground effects. Anybody have some?

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here you go pic of my car


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Thanks mafv8, those look really good on your car, like they belong

Any additional drilling required or did they bolt right on?
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Originally posted by NetCam:

I've gone through all the photos I can find, but can't seem to locate one of these scoops (Fiero Warehouse) with the GT ground effects. Anybody have some?



Keep in mind that these (Fiero Warehouse) scoops do not come with the GT ground effects. They have to be added.
They come plain or drilled.
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Just a thought for fiero scoops...







I know they aren't made specifically for the fiero, but I remember someone on Pennocks putting them on their car.
They are from a fiat x1/9 from the late 70's early 80's I belive and are basically the same size as the stock fiero side scoop. At least you could have peace with symetry.

I picked these up picknpull this weekend for under $10. Not sure what if anything I'd do with them....maybe just add them to my growing pile of stock vents and scoops.

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I thought about the X19 scoops, but I think they're getting very hard to find. Those white scoops look they might be good to put on the hood if the angles are right!
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Originally posted by NetCam:

I thought about the X19 scoops, but I think they're getting very hard to find. Those white scoops look they might be good to put on the hood if the angles are right!


The angles are most certainly not right. The only way I think you could do the white scoops would be to use them like old Curly did on his last fiero build...the red one. As a hood extractor, it just looks messed up. I gotta admit, the x19 scoops are growing on me. They have a cool 3 dimetional property to their design that most of the others I've found just don't have. That being said, if your interested in them...send me a PM.
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Originally posted by NetCam:

Thanks mafv8, those look really good on your car, like they belong

Any additional drilling required or did they bolt right on?


you have the option of buying them with the holes in or not, I chose to have the holes in, and they went in pretty good, a little adjusting here and there, but it looked like my car had a minor hit on the passesnger side in this area, was not aware of this untill I pulled off the old plastic panels, so that did not help the fitment. I had the parts painted at a local bodyshop, and they commented on the quality of the new panels, they were very impressed with them.

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Thanks for the feedback! Looking at your picture I'm guessing your car is lowered as well (Eibach lowering springs??)? I like the stance, now looking at pictures of my own, it looks like it's riding too high



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Sorry Forgot text. Yes these are homemade as well. Fun weekend project. Be creative!
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Originally posted by NetCam:

Thanks for the feedback! Looking at your picture I'm guessing your car is lowered as well (Eibach lowering springs??)? I like the stance, now looking at pictures of my own, it looks like it's riding too high


I have Eibach springs in the back , with 225/50x17 tire and 2" dropped spindles in the front with 215/40x17 tires
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Are there any issues painting the side scoops. I am considering purchasing some from Fierofiberglass but have some reservations about how they would work out. I talked with a body shop today and they said that a lot of times items that are custom fitted and ready to paint take a lot of hours of work to really get them ready for installation and the actual installation. This adds to the costs.

I just got a 1988 with 42000 miles in PRISTINE condition about a month ago and last week got hit by a lady on the parking lot so the car is going into the shop and I want to make a positve out of this. Since the body shop is doing the painting anyway....

Any advice or comments on issues with painting and installation would be greatly appreciated. Can it be installed by a novice? Does the fiberglasss paint easily? Etc.

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