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ICE officers shoot woman in MN by NewDustin
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Angle 1:
https://packaged-media.redd.../pb/m2-res_1280p.mp4

Angle 2 (what I think is a better angle):
https://x.com/bnonews/status/2008966410039644438

I got both of these second hand from other posts, so if you have a better source feel free to include it.

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The video, which can be viewed here (note graphic violence and language) depicts a maroon Honda in the middle of a road being surrounded by ICE agents, with one trying to open the driver’s door. As the car appears to drive away, a different officer standing in front of the vehicle opens fire. The car appears to make contact with the ICE agent, but he was not fully knocked down. After the woman was shot, her car then rams into vehicles in front of it before coming to a stop.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...j3?ocid=BingNewsSerp

A better angle of the shooting shows the woman CLEARLY hitting the agent with her car before he fires at her.
https://x.com/nicksortor/st.../2008973759097733306

 
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Homeland Security / @DHSgov:
Today, ICE officers in Minneapolis were conducting targeted operations when rioters began blocking ICE officers and one of these violent rioters weaponized her vehicle, attempting to run over our law enforcement officers in an attempt to kill them—an act of domestic terrorism.

An ICE officer, fearing for his life, the lives of his fellow law enforcement and the safety of the public, fired defensive shots.

He used his training and saved his own life and that of his fellow officers.

The alleged perpetrator was hit and is deceased. The ICE officers who were hurt are expected to make full recoveries.

This is the direct consequence of constant attacks and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel and encourage rampant assaults on our law enforcement who are facing 1,300% increase in assaults against them and an 8,000% increase in death threats.

This is an evolving situation, and we will give the public more information as soon as it becomes available.

https://x.com/DHSgov/status/2008958123092979817?

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It's a good idea to follow the instructions of a law officer ...
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I suppose this is exactly what some of us voted for.
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Ummm... the vehicle was packed full of fentanyl, right?
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Insurmountable Differences on Hate-ICE Democrats and Immigration Laws

Videos clearly shows that the woman tried to escape an apparent arrest and attempted to run down an ICE agent - end of story.

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Yep, just label Renee Nicole Good a "domestic terrorist" and call it a day.




"Kill Them All"



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It is tragic that someone lost there life But she was a paid protester that hit an officer. May be the US should take a page from Canada's play book and seize the bank accounts of all the protesters and mandate that they can't work anywhere. Just saying!!!
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Report this Post01-08-2026 10:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ray bSend a Private Message to ray bEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
lying ICE pigs just like the other BS ICE

pig killed her pure murder after car passed him ie he was not in danger he lies

ICE lies just like the rump all the time

we need to put murdering pigs to death by law for their crimes
and the other ICE pigs who lie need charges fired and imprisoned
and pig who lies needs to be held in a jail for their crimes NO BAIL untill trial

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Ray, if they where rounding up Cuban's you would not have a thing to say.
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Originally posted by ray b:

lying ICE pigs just like the other BS ICE

pig killed her pure murder after car passed him ie he was not in danger he lies

ICE lies just like the rump all the time

we need to put murdering pigs to death by law for their crimes
and the other ICE pigs who lie need charges fired and imprisoned
and pig who lies needs to be held in a jail for their crimes NO BAIL untill trial



Bro, you need to watch more videos, and watch them closely.

The bullet went through the windshield, fired by the Ice officer that was in front of the vehicle.

If a law enforcement officer gives you an order, you are to obey that order.
All she had to do was get out of the car, and she would still be breathing.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The bullet went through the windshield, fired by the Ice officer that was in front of the vehicle.


When I saw the bullet hole in the windshield, it pretty much answered this, for me.

I have read, elsewhere, that this officer had also been hit/run down on a previous occasion.
Yeah. No sympathy for this protestor.

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TDS, the madness of demented Marxists, irrational, foaming at the mouth, rabid insane.
TDS, the scourge of the Dempartie.
They, the coroners, may discover that she was afflicted, infected, contaminated, by communist brain grubs, distorting her perception of reality, where she had lived.
Mayor Jacob Frey Rages at NICE
See, it's a free for all looting of the treasury,
Frey is obviously in on it, up to his neck.
Arresting the fraud preemptively pending FBI investigation, to deter his flight to Cuba, with the suitcases of gold, silver and cash, absconding with the loot.
The Great Somalian Loot
Simple, waiting for them at the airport, seizing the cash, as proceeds of crime rico terrorist conspiracy

' I think that might actually work. '
Perhaps, a gang of Bank Robbers might score a few million in a luggage switcheroo, a con, a sting.
Fake police, vans, dollys.



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I defend her she is a liberal they are above the law.
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Originally posted by Patrick:

"Kill Them All"







You post these images after bitching about graphic images in the October attack on Israel.
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End of the day someone died that could have been avoided.
BY AVOIDED let's start with complying with Federal officers, do not make threatening moves.
With the crap shared by every media station out there, they have seen a lot of aggression against Federal agents trying to do the job they have been assigned.

The officer should probably not have put himself in front of the SUV but the conditions were bad, the roads were icy and I wasn't there.
Tensions are hot, especially when we see the fraud that has been discovered.
Unchecked and illegal activity and a big part of it by immigrants that came here not for a fresh start but to take advantage. Never mind the trespassers that should not be here to start with.
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Bro, you need to watch more videos, and watch them closely.

The bullet went through the windshield, fired by the Ice officer that was in front of the vehicle.

If a law enforcement officer gives you an order, you are to obey that order.
All she had to do was get out of the car, and she would still be breathing.


bs as usual lying for jesus lying for pigs

4 shots first in the extreme corner of the windshield next 3 in driver BUT NOT THRU THE WINDSHIELD BUT THE SIDE DRIVERS WINDOW
that means she was passed the pig who was not in danger or fear for life or limb just a murdering scum bag

car with widows up may not hear the PIG or hear clearly but PIG doesn't care just shoots because he is a PIG
PIGS need to be in jail until trial just like a citizen who kills a PIG NO BOND as they are a proven danger to citizens
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

End of the day someone died that could have been avoided.
BY AVOIDED let's start with complying with Federal officers, do not make threatening moves.
With the crap shared by every media station out there, they have seen a lot of aggression against Federal agents trying to do the job they have been assigned.

The officer should probably not have put himself in front of the SUV but the conditions were bad, the roads were icy and I wasn't there.
Tensions are hot, especially when we see the fraud that has been discovered.
Unchecked and illegal activity and a big part of it by immigrants that came here not for a fresh start but to take advantage. Never mind the trespassers that should not be here to start with.


see post above
can 't hear clearly or at all
no pig was in any danger

murder = jail for PIG until trial = no excuse

cover up or trial no excuses
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I defend her she is a liberal they are above the law.


I see white christian nationalists as above the laws or at a minimum over pardoned by the BIG PIG

A REVERSION TO THE OLD SOUTH BUT NATION WIDE NOW
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bs as usual lying for jesus lying for pigs

4 shots first in the extreme corner of the windshield next 3 in driver BUT NOT THRU THE WINDSHIELD BUT THE SIDE DRIVERS WINDOW
that means she was passed the pig who was not in danger or fear for life or limb just a murdering scum bag

car with widows up may not hear the PIG or hear clearly but PIG doesn't care just shoots because he is a PIG
PIGS need to be in jail until trial just like a citizen who kills a PIG NO BOND as they are a proven danger to citizens


She stepped on her gas pedal and struck him with her SUV. That is attempted murder. She was still in control of a deadly weapon, her SUV. She was still a threat to every officer there. This is easily justifiable homicide.

If you were in the same situation where a driver purposefully struck you with their vehicle, you would be justified in defending yourself and kill them.
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People believe what they want to believe; facts or evidence doesn't matter!

 
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Vice President Vance:
“A tragedy? Absolutely, but a tragedy that falls on this woman and all of the radicals who teach people that immigration is the one type of law that rioters are allowed to interfere with.


The temperature is still rising...
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bs as usual lying for jesus lying for pigs

4 shots first in the extreme corner of the windshield next 3 in driver BUT NOT THRU THE WINDSHIELD BUT THE SIDE DRIVERS WINDOW
that means she was passed the pig who was not in danger or fear for life or limb just a murdering scum bag

car with widows up may not hear the PIG or hear clearly but PIG doesn't care just shoots because he is a PIG
PIGS need to be in jail until trial just like a citizen who kills a PIG NO BOND as they are a proven danger to citizens


Your meds aren't working, rayb.
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THE SHEEP WANT ALL DISSENT MEDICATED

I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY MOOD MEDS FOR ANYTHING

I NEVER HAVE LIKE KILLER COPS
THESE ICE PIGS ARE ABOUT THE WORSE

I FAIL TO SEE WHY PIGS GET AN AUTOMATIC PASS
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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:


People believe what they want to believe; facts or evidence doesn't matter!


The temperature is still rising...


HOLES IN PEOPLE OR CARS ARE TRACABLE
NOTE THE GUY WITH A CAMERA AT EXTREME WINDSHIELD EDGE DRIVERS SIDE ONE HOLE ONLY THERE

PLUS THE MURDER IS ON CAMERA

EVIDENCE IS NOT BELIEF IT IS A FACT

AS IS THE FACT THE ICE PIGS ARE KNOWN TO LIE [LIKE A RUG] OR A [RUMP]
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I can imagine the lies that would be posted by MAGA zealots if there was no video evidence of what occurred... but even with video evidence readily available, both Trump and Noem push a total bullsh!t narrative about the event, and the MAGA faithful lap it up.




Let's watch what really happened...




Another angle which clearly shows other vehicles driving past the front of the victim's car (this woman was not blocking the road), and which also show she was trying to get away from the ICE agents to her left. The agent that fired his gun had come around from the back of her vehicle to her right, and she was probably not even aware of him when she was trying to escape the agents to her left. The agent who fired his gun repeatedly, even after the car had gone past him, was obviously not "run over", and appeared in fine form after he executed this woman.




What a lying b!tch. You've seen the videos. What the hell was she watching? The same ones that Trump apparently watched. Two lying sacks of sh!t. And MAGA zealots swallow it hook, line, and sinker! Oh how easily the gullible are led.

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Well it is reported she was there all day trying to stop ice so if you are that dumb then you will more than likely to get hurt so follow what the law officer say to do do not fight back and you will not get major injurys in most cases . it is just common sense

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Well it is reported she was there all day trying to stop ice so if you are that dumb then you will more than likely to get hurt so follow what the law officer say to do do not fight back and you will not get major injurys in most cases . it is just common sense



The ANTIFA boys don't see it that way.
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yup antifa ate the fascist they say they are aginst as it is there way or they threaten you

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As I have stated before, if she had simply complied with the LEO order to get out of the vehicle, she would still be breathing.
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olejoedad exactly
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As I have stated before, if she had simply complied with the LEO order to get out of the vehicle, she would still be breathing.


So you're justifying the execution of someone for simply trying to leave the scene?

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RUSH TO JUSTIFY MURDER BY PIG

LIES ARE THICK FROM RUMP AND DOG KILLER AND THE ON SITE PIGS

DO PIGS EVER GET CHARGED WITH LYING STEALING OR MURDER
THEY ARE DECLAIRED IMMUNE FAR TOO OFTEN

NO PIG AS HURT AT ALL
CITIZEN MURDERED
MANY LIES BY ICE AND LEADERSHIP UP TO THE RUMP
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So you're justifying the execution of someone for simply trying to leave the scene?

Really?

You actual don't understand that the woman was resisting ICE, which they have the constitutional authority to enforce immigration law?

When a federal officer gives you instructions, you abide by them...she chose poorly.

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So you're justifying the execution of someone for simply trying to leave the scene?


SCENE OF WHAT A CAR TRYING TO ENTER TRAFFIC ?
WHERE IS THE CORE CRIME ALLOWING THE PIG TO ORDER HER TO DO ANYTHING
THEY LIE ABOUT BLOCKING THE ROAD
THEY LIE ABOUT ORDERS TO DO WHAT WHY
THEN THEY LIE ABOUT THE RUN OVER PIG WHO NOT HURT OT RUN OVER
THEN THEY LIE ABOUT WHY THE UNHURT PIG SHOT HER

PIGS LIE ONE THING THAT MAKES THEM PIGS
KILLING IS AN OTHER
LIES ABOUT KILLING A CITIZEN BY PIGS IS A CRIME
AS IS MURDER
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Patrick first off she was there all day trying to block them from doing there job so it was not like she just pulled up she clearly was pushing and escalating the situation then when they tried to get her to do as they said with a officer in front of her she drove forward hiting him with her car as he shot her but if she would have just followed there ordered she would be alive . so quite trying to make her sound like she did nothing wrong as she was. use commen sense you dont adjitate or resist arest as it will go wrong and this time it cost a women her life and she is to blame no one held a gun to her head and made her do the things she did .

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Patrick first off she was there all day trying to block them from doing there job so it was not like she just pulled up...


Maybe you should stick to engines, as your information appears to be incorrect.

I asked Google AI the following question. Feel free to double-check its accuracy.

How long was Renee Nicole Good at the scene before she was shot dead?

 
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Renee Nicole Good was at the scene for approximately three minutes before the fatal confrontation occurred on January 7, 2026.

According to surveillance footage and forensic timelines of the incident in Minneapolis:

- Stationary Period: Good's vehicle was observed stationary and positioned sideways across the road for roughly three minutes.
- Initial Observations: At 9:35:05 a.m., two minutes before the shooting, her car was seen idling diagonally on Portland Avenue while other vehicles passed.
- Direct Encounter: ICE agents approached her vehicle approximately 22 seconds before shots were fired.
- The Shooting: The first shot was fired through her windshield at 9:37:13 a.m.. The entire direct confrontation between the agents approaching her vehicle and the first shot lasted only a matter of seconds.

While federal officials alleged she had been "stalking and impeding" work for a longer period that day, bystander and surveillance videos specifically document her presence at the immediate shooting location for roughly three minutes prior to her death.




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Originally posted by Vintage-Nut:

When a federal officer gives you instructions, you abide by them...


...or you get shot in the head.

Yes, I completely understand what you'd like to see on a regular basis. "Kill Them All". However, in case you're actually interested in the law (doubtful), it's not legal for law enforcement in the US (or most/all civilized countries) to shoot someone who's fleeing apprehension.

Sure, you'll moan about the ICE agent being in fear of his life. However, if you bother to watch this thorough analysis of events (again doubtful), you'll learn that this "defence" is totally bogus.

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Well, duh..
' Stop ! Or I'll shoot ! '
That's usually the thing they say on TV, to inform the viewers about lawful orders.
What was she thinking ?
' I'mma gonna run you over, PIG ! '


' I think all domestic communists need to be removed from America, can't trust them, they're always nuts. '


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Patrick I watched the press briefing i did not ask AI but no matter what she did not follow the law officers order i am sure when a law officer tells you to get out of the car you do it and dont try to run them over so stop with the mental gymnasticsto make this seem like she did nothing wrong as she did

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I think context is important here. I also think we can all agree that it's unfortunate that someone lost their life.


But there are several important facts that are known which should be considered:

- Mrs. Good was there with her wife. Her wife was the one in a flannel shirt, and they had been there specifically for the purpose of protesting ICE.
- Mrs. Good was intentionally attempting to block traffic, while the wife was standing outside also attempting to stop people from passing.
- In the longer unedited video, you see two cars, including a grey ICE Ford Explorer race around her before she moves forward to block the Suburban
- At the time the officers approached her car, she was in the process of being lawfully detained, for the purpose of being charged with obstruction.


On whether she was intent on running the ICE officer over, or she was trying to flee the scene (this is safely assumed at a minimum), is not for me to decide. In my opinion, it does look like she was attempting to, at the very least, push him out of the way with her car. Whether her intent was to run him over or kill him (probably not), would only have been relevant had she made it to court. Unfortunately, her actions were perceived as threatening... and this brings me to the psychological part.

Years ago, I had to take a Crowd Psychology course as part of a larger series of courses before I was allowed to travel overseas as an unattributed agency employee (so we didn't do something stupid as a group). There's a unique mentality that occurs when people are in larger groups. The problem is that psychologically, people are more likely to push the envelope when they are in a group mentality. Specifically, individuals will do things that they wouldn’t normally do if they were merely by themselves on the street corner. They get a false sense of power that mentally allows them to justify actions they might not normally do. One of the consequences of this mentality is that they’ll act on something, somehow believing that there are no consequences for these actions because they have the power of the “group” behind them.

The question you would ask... if she had been pulled over by the police for speeding, would she flee? Highly doubtful. But she did attempt to flee (at a minimum) because she was being "enabled" by the crowd of protestors that she was essentially part of. I'm not a police officer, but I also have to think that police in large groups might also struggle with this... but I'd imagine they're given at least similar or better training than I have in that area.


Anyway, I kind of nod to Fetterman. "Tone down the rhetoric." I've come to respect the guy a lot. I don't always agree with him, but he seems to be the calmest person in the room most times. I used to think he was a complete moron, but I happened to catch him on an old episode of "Where We Live" (or whatever the show was called). He and his wife literally moved into a decaying section of their city (before he became mayor) and bought up an old historic building that used to be a car dealership. Both he and his wife restored it, made it their home, and he later ran for mayor ... the rest is history. When you have people on the ideological right saying he's a dumbass and people on the ideological left saying he's a dumbass, it's possible he might just be the sanest person in the room... or he's a dumbass. But I tend to think otherwise. Either way... it's unfortunate this lady died... but it's important to remember that she pushed the envelop, and quite literally triggered an officer that had already gone through being run over once.

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