Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: ... Either way... it's unfortunate this lady died... but it's important to remember that she pushed the envelop, and quite literally triggered an officer that had already gone through being run over once.
I was going to mention this exact point. Think he was feeling a deep sense of "deja vu"?
THE THE ICE PIG MURDERER HAS POST TRAUMATIC STRESS AND SHOULD NOT BE ON THE JOB TO SHOOT CITIZENS HE SHOULD BE ON MEDICAL LEAVE NOT KILLING PEOPLE
IS ABOUT THE ONLY TRUE STATEMENT IN THIS MESS BY ANY PIG LEADER INC THE HEAD LYING PIG THE RUMP AND THE VICE PIG WHO F ' ED COUCHES AND THE DOG KILLING SCUM THEY ALL LIE LIKE RUGS THEY ALL LIED TO THE NATION TO PROTECT A MURDERERING PIG
BUT SHOULD A PIG BE ALLOWED TO LIE ?
IF THEY DO LIE THEY SHOULD LOSE THE MYTH OF PIGS GET IMMUNITY
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THE THE ICE PIG MURDERER HAS POST TRAUMATIC STRESS AND SHOULD NOT BE ON THE JOB TO SHOOT CITIZENS HE SHOULD BE ON MEDICAL LEAVE NOT KILLING PEOPLE
IS ABOUT THE ONLY TRUE STATEMENT IN THIS MESS BY ANY PIG LEADER INC THE HEAD LYING PIG THE RUMP AND THE VICE PIG WHO F ' ED COUCHES AND THE DOG KILLING SCUM THEY ALL LIE LIKE RUGS THEY ALL LIED TO THE NATION TO PROTECT A MURDERERING PIG
BUT SHOULD A PIG BE ALLOWED TO LIE ?
IF THEY DO LIE THEY SHOULD LOSE THE MYTH OF PIGS GET IMMUNITY
THE THE ICE PIG MURDERER HAS POST TRAUMATIC STRESS AND SHOULD NOT BE ON THE JOB TO SHOOT CITIZENS HE SHOULD BE ON MEDICAL LEAVE NOT KILLING PEOPLE
IS ABOUT THE ONLY TRUE STATEMENT IN THIS MESS BY ANY PIG LEADER INC THE HEAD LYING PIG THE RUMP AND THE VICE PIG WHO F ' ED COUCHES AND THE DOG KILLING SCUM THEY ALL LIE LIKE RUGS THEY ALL LIED TO THE NATION TO PROTECT A MURDERERING PIG
BUT SHOULD A PIG BE ALLOWED TO LIE ?
IF THEY DO LIE THEY SHOULD LOSE THE MYTH OF PIGS GET IMMUNITY
so you think your MAGAt leader should lie about killing citizen with proven false claims like the PIG was run over or claims she was a know activist or the killer was in fear not just an authority PIG who was disrespected by a woman
you leader spew lies why are you OK with them lying and back up their BS by defending
Here Is How NOT to be Shot by ICE officers Step 1: Do not interfere in ICE operations Step 2: Listen to law enforcement when they tell you to step out of the car Step 3: Don’t try to drive away
Stop listening to Democrats who are demonizing ICE officers You will not feel compelled to take a moral stand and break steps 1, 2, and 3 as outlined above.
You are incorrect, the cult consists of the people supporting the illegal activities of the previous Administration that allowed and encouraged a mass influx of foreign invaders and criminals. These same people are now villifying LEOs who are performing their legal duties under long existing US Federal law.
Grouse if you want, but you are living in your own world of delusion, and you are not kind, just weird....
Years ago, I had to take a Crowd Psychology course as part of a larger series of courses before I was allowed to travel overseas as an unattributed agency employee (so we didn't do something stupid as a group). There's a unique mentality that occurs when people are in larger groups. The problem is that psychologically, people are more likely to push the envelope when they are in a group mentality. Specifically, individuals will do things that they wouldn’t normally do if they were merely by themselves on the street corner. They get a false sense of power that mentally allows them to justify actions they might not normally do. One of the consequences of this mentality is that they’ll act on something, somehow believing that there are no consequences for these actions because they have the power of the “group” behind them.
Todd, excellent analysis... of the thousands of ICE agents (and other paramilitary forces) marauding through the streets of American cities!
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Would you be so dumb as to hit a cop with your vehicle while they are arresting you?
So... is that a "yes" then?
I wouldn't want to purposely hit anyone with my vehicle. I suspect Renee Good felt the same way. However, we'll never know for sure, as she was executed for brushing by a trigger happy ICE agent.
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I wouldn't want to purposely hit anyone with my vehicle. I suspect Renee Good felt the same way. However, we'll never know for sure, as she was executed for brushing by a trigger happy ICE agent.
Her wife got out of the SUV and was engaging the federal officers as they filmed the car for what I would assume gathering evidence before stopping and or arresting her. Her wife also said she's the one that told her wife to go there and "observe" the ice agents. Premeditated? Do I think it could have been avoided? Sure they could have parked and walked down the street and filmed. They could have avoided a conflict and not have escalated the encounter with already on edge federal agents. Either way I wasn't there and I'm done with this for today.
I wouldn't want to purposely hit anyone with my vehicle. I suspect Renee Good felt the same way. However, we'll never know for sure, as she was executed for brushing by a trigger happy ICE agent.
You are such a liar with your characterizations. It was not an execution. She hit him a lot harder than a "brushing by".
Got any more graphic images you want to post of her body. I'll bet you have a nice close up of her face with a hole in it.
Her wife also said she's the one that told her wife to go there and "observe" the ice agents.
Perhaps ICE should've shot her as well. And if they had, there'd probably be a few here in P&R cheering such an outcome.
I realize it's not an easy job having the task of trying to enforce the law... but if the officers in this role can't differentiate between dealing with a hardened criminal who's previously demonstrated they're dangerous... and a woman sitting in her SUV with her dog... then they shouldn't be given the critical role of a law enforcement officer dealing with the public.
Sure, maybe this woman didn't make the best decision putting herself in this position, but did she deserve to be shot and killed for it? Hardly. If we all got executed for doing dumb things, there'd be very few of us still around!
How so, because I don't agree with your assessment?
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Originally posted by Doug85GT:
It was not an execution.
What would you call it?
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Originally posted by Doug85GT:
She hit him a lot harder than a "brushing by".
And you know this how? The ICE agent looked just fine afterwards, not even a hint of a limp and/or of any discomfort. I get hit a lot harder at hockey and I don't try and kill the other person.
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Originally posted by Doug85GT:
Got any more graphic images you want to post of her body. I'll bet you have a nice close up of her face with a hole in it.
It is a justified homicide. You can hear in the video how hard he was struck by the vehicle.
Yes, there was a big bang... actually there were three of them. What you hear in the video is the ICE agent's gun being fired at the woman's head as he quickly backs away from the vehicle trying to leave the scene.
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Originally posted by Doug85GT:
There you go thinking with your dick again. You seem to enjoy dragging your sexual fantasies into discussions.
Sez the guy that posted the image of the almost naked dead German woman who was killed and mutilated during the Hamas terrorist attack in Israel.
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Sure, maybe this woman didn't make the best decision putting herself in this position, but did she deserve to be shot and killed for it? Hardly. If we all got executed for doing dumb things, there'd be very few of us still around!
Perhaps ICE should've shot her as well. And if they had, there'd probably be a few here in P&R cheering such an outcome.
Well if she pulled an SUV out of her pocket and tried to hit him with it yes. Don't be a dick.
No one should have been shot here, No one should have been impeding federal agents. They could have stood on the sidewalk and filmed and protested peacefully but they choose to get in the road and impact the agents doing the job they were deployed to do. But the constant get in their face, bring on the smoke, pushing, blocking traffic and in some cases running over agents. It's all brought us here.
I drew attention to your hypocrisy. You bitched about the images in the Israel thread and then posted graphic images yourself. You chose to sexualize it.
I realize it's not an easy job having the task of trying to enforce the law... but if the officers in this role can't differentiate between dealing with a hardened criminal who's previously demonstrated they're dangerous... and a woman sitting in her SUV with her dog... then they shouldn't be given the critical role of a law enforcement officer dealing with the public.
Originally posted by Patrick: Sez the guy that posted the image of the almost naked dead German woman who was killed and mutilated during the Hamas terrorist attack in Israel.
People can decide for themselves who the depraved one is here.
Funny thing is that you are the only one who complained about that image and you are the only one who now has sexualized it. You are like the creep staring at a mother breastfeeding her baby. Everyone else see it as a non-sexual activity while you are getting your rocks off.
Given your history of coming out of left field with your sexual comments, it is clear who is the pervert here.
In June 2025 (specifically June 17 or 19, depending on reports), during an immigration enforcement operation in Bloomington, Minnesota (a Minneapolis suburb), Ross was involved in attempting to arrest Roberto Carlos Muñoz-Guatemala (or similar spelling variations in reports), an undocumented individual with prior criminal convictions. Ross broke the vehicle's rear window and reached inside to unlock the door or apprehend the driver. The driver accelerated, catching Ross's arm in the vehicle/window. He was dragged approximately 50–100 yards (reports vary slightly on distance, with some citing 50 yards, others ~100 yards or ~300 feet). Ross sustained serious injuries, including deep lacerations to his right arm (requiring 20 stitches), left hand (13 stitches), and abrasions to his knee, elbows, and face. He needed medical treatment, including a total of around 33 stitches in some accounts. He deployed his Taser during the struggle, but it did not stop the vehicle. The suspect was later convicted of assaulting a federal officer with a dangerous weapon.
You are like the creep staring at a mother breastfeeding her baby. Everyone else see it as a non-sexual activity while you are getting your rocks off.
You've got quite an imagination (twisted, but yes, rather imaginative)... which I guess is helpful when you're trying to promote how hard the ICE agent was supposedly hit by the SUV attempting to leave the scene.
In June 2025 (specifically June 17 or 19, depending on reports), during an immigration enforcement operation in Bloomington, Minnesota (a Minneapolis suburb), Ross was involved in attempting to arrest Roberto Carlos Muñoz-Guatemala (or similar spelling variations in reports), an undocumented individual with prior criminal convictions. Ross broke the vehicle's rear window and reached inside to unlock the door or apprehend the driver. The driver accelerated, catching Ross's arm in the vehicle/window. He was dragged approximately 50–100 yards (reports vary slightly on distance, with some citing 50 yards, others ~100 yards or ~300 feet). Ross sustained serious injuries, including deep lacerations to his right arm (requiring 20 stitches), left hand (13 stitches), and abrasions to his knee, elbows, and face. He needed medical treatment, including a total of around 33 stitches in some accounts.
Interesting. Thanks for posting that.
I asked Google AI the following question. Feel free to double-check its accuracy.
Are law enforcement officers trained not to put themselves in harm's way?
The answer was quite long and thorough, but here's the relevant part...
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Tactical Safety Measures: Specific protocols prohibit actions that create "self-created danger." For example, most departments train officers not to stand in the path of a moving vehicle or reach inside an operating vehicle, as these positions unnecessarily increase the risk of being struck.
So it appears that ICE agent, Jonathan E. Ross, not only endangered himself by being in front of Renee Good's vehicle in this latest example of him disregarding his training, but he's also done it previously, just seven months ago, when he reached into Roberto Carlos Muñoz-Guatemala's vehicle.
To all of you who blame Renee Good's demise on her own actions, what about those of Jonathan E. Ross then? If he had abided by his training (and/or learned a lesson from his earlier incident), he wouldn't have been putting himself in danger by being in front (or close to it) of Good's car. He therefore wouldn't have needed to step back when Good tried to flee, and/or fire his gun three times into her head.
And if Jonathan E. Ross was still traumatized by his earlier incident, what the hell was he doing back on duty?
