Too much SWAG information being circulated right now to know exactly what happened but, Mr. Kirk is a Conservative carrying a Conservative message to college campuses. Hopefully, he'll survive.
Pretty gruesome. I would suggest not looking for the video. I was looking at what I thought was a still picture and its not good at all. This was an assassination
The shooting of Charlie Kirk by some nutcase is horrible and absolutely inexcusable... but IMO, comments like that just add to the ever growing divisiveness and hatred in the US. It just stirs the pot even more.
I totally agree with the fella below. This isn't going to end well.
Compile a list of the top twenty Dempartie_Nazi_Hamas_Communists, we shall assassinate them right back, retaliation, twenty to one, totally fair. ' Making right what was left, their sycophants moaning how unfair and terrible war is. Are we at war with the left ? Like, duh.. I'll start, Chuck Schumer, Kamala, Newsom, Adam Schiff, Bernie Sanders, Tim Kaine, Hillary, et al. You know, you know, all the zombies, delirious on drugs, repeating communist slogans without thought. A civil war to purge the left from America, starting with all the Marxists in academia, rounding them up, railing them to Cochise, AZ, the Ellis Island Zones. Millions of illegals, detainees, tents for miles, the blaring air siren waking them at 5am, ' Everyone get up ! Time to work ! ' A gulag, to make Americans from the yearning masses, desperate to escape the communist nations of their origins. ' If you can pass the entrance exams, you can come in ! ' Three weeks to filter the commies from the Zone, sent their way south, fifty miles to Mexico. ' Via con Dios, pendejos ' a bottle of water as a humanitarian gesture. ' The exit is that way ! Move along. ' You may call it intolerance if you like, won't matter at all, their bleating ignored as the grovelling it is. America for Americans, the Constitutional Republic free, the unbelievers, the blasphemers sent their way to their fates, far to the south, Venezuela like. It's Communist in Caracas ! They will love it there, I'm sure. Cuba is lovely, this time of year, ' Havana, here I come ! '
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Shall we begin purging the Dempartie_Nazi_Hamas_Communists from America ? Start this week ? How many of you will put you and yours on the line as Charlie did ? How many of you know of sympathizers of foreign philosophy ? Enumerate them, they number in the millions, create a database, a list of those to be deported or liquidated, depending on their crimes. Communist ? There's the exit, begone or be ended, a simple decision, ' You have five minutes, starting now. ' Murderer ? Ixnay with the pleading aye, You're done for, better start running for the exit, ' You have three minutes. ' Think of it as a National enema, flushing the nasties from the body politic. Certainly, you feel better, now knowing Rosie has split, that turd a stinker. Begin compiling a database today, we shall integrate, amalgamate, concatenate the thousands you post, creating a noc list available to all who wish to participate in the conflict, the civil war, different than the 1917 communist murder spree in Russia, their political opposition unarmed, so very convenient as they took power by hun barrel. You see, America is saturated with Counter Constitutionals, gotta scrape them off, like after a walk on the sidewalks of 'Frisco. ' You're soiling our Nation. ' Demonizing the dempartie is perfectly reasonable, the demon who assassinated Charlie one of them. A paid assassin, a professional hit, may already be out of the country, by private jet charter. The Day of the Jackal '73 TFK, a Trained _ucking Killer. Fire and sword, only what the demons understand.
The shooting of Charlie Kirk by some nutcase is horrible and absolutely inexcusable... but IMO, comments like that just add to the ever growing divisiveness and hatred in the US. It just stirs the pot even more.
I totally agree with the fella below. This isn't going to end well.
So, I'm not even a minute in... and the usual guy you post videos from, blames Trump for this. Literally says Trump is responsible for the violence because millions voted for him. Sorry, I stopped watching at that point. This must be a liberal thing... liberals never blame the person responsible for committing an act, it's always someone else's fault for their actions.
Please let me know if I missed the boat on this...
Here's my opinion. The left used fear and decisiveness for the past couple of decades. They used this because it worked. It preyed on the anguish of the mentally unwell, and intentionally give them a sense of justification for their malignant actions ... for the sole benefit of gaining power.
And here's where the Democrat party in America currently is... an embarrassment, declining membership, most sane people have switched parties... or just left outright, and the party is basically made up of miseducated socialists and people who suffer from mental illness.
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The shooting of Charlie Kirk by some nutcase is horrible and absolutely inexcusable... but IMO, comments like that just add to the ever growing divisiveness and hatred in the US. It just stirs the pot even more.
I totally agree with the fella below. This isn't going to end well.
Thanks for posting that, although considerably 1 sided, it can be used as an example for both sides to take a look at THEMSELFS and reflect how they may have contributed to this divide in America. This goes farther back than just a decade.
Whenever a major event happens, I like to go to Democratic Underground to get a pulse of what the "true" Democrat party believes. Yes, Democratic Underground has very unhinged people on it... but this is the Democrat party's base, effectively. These are people that no matter what the party does, they will collectively (in their minds), justify everything because the party dogma has literally become their religion... and faith is hard to break.
What I see on Democratic Underground can be fit into three categories:
- Glee and excitement that "a nazi" was killed. - Blame towards Trump for "forcing people" to have to do this. - Narcissistic responses on how they now personally have to deal with backlash.
Thanks for posting that, although considerably 1 sided, it can be used as an example for both sides to take a look at THEMSELFS and reflect how they may have contributed to this divide in America. This goes farther back than just a decade.
I started re-watching it, just in case maybe he had a point somewhere... but I'm now well into 4 minutes... and it's been nothing but a long screed of nonsense Democrat talking points about why Trump is bad. Literally... does this video even have anything to do with Charlie Kirk?
Sorry... here's what I know. The left suffers overwhelmingly from mental illness. The research evidence suggests there is a measurable relationship between political ideology and mental health outcomes, with liberals consistently reporting higher rates of mental health issues across multiple studies. Key findings include:
- Extreme liberals show significantly elevated rates: One study using General Social Survey data found that "extremely liberal" individuals reported a 150% increased rate of mental illness compared to moderates [1].
- Gender and age patterns emerge: Female liberal adolescents specifically reported higher levels of depressive affect, self-derogation, and loneliness compared to their conservative counterparts, with the largest increases occurring among those without college-educated parents [2].
- Consistent conservative advantage: Multiple studies confirm that conservatives tend to rate their mental health more positively than liberals and report better psychological well-being overall [3] [4].
- Developmental patterns: Research indicates that childhood health is positively related to conservative political ideology in adulthood, with healthier children being more likely to identify as conservative later in life [5].
Ok... I thought... just maybe... just maybe I'm being too critical. So, I kept watching... I'm now 6 minutes in, and it's been nothing but a continuous screed from this retard saying that it's all Trump's fault. Literally saying this.
For the ****ing idiots that have blinders on...
- When you intentionally flood the country with illegals to dilute the census and in hopes of creating a new voting block, that's wrong. - When you force an entire population to wear masks, take an injection, and follow orders, that's communist. - When you intentionally propagandize kids at an early age to question their gender, that's mental illness. - When you use taxpayer funds to funnel money back to your political campaigns through NGOs, that's corruption. - When you push that abortion is perfectly wonderful, and should be done at any opportunity to save the planet, that's evil. - When you consistently demonize the victim, and celebrate the criminal as simply misguided, that's intentionally cruel. - When you race-bait and make every single thing about race, and the only ones pushing this are white liberals, that's self-guilt.
The Democrat party is literally insane. In the most honest use of the word literal.
I haven't watched the videos that much, but those two guys near Charlie did kinda look like they were sending signals. Could just be two guys adjusting their clothing. Was the shooter that person on the roof?
Saw this, kinda feel like it wasn't "just some guy".
It TOTALLY could be "just some guy", I'm not sayin' the words in that image are accurate.
Was there only one shot?
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Saw this, kinda feel like it wasn't "just some guy".
Was there only one shot?
I don't agree that this took a professional shooter. Anyone with a small amount of "long gun" experience and most likely a sighted in scope could easily make such a shot. It's my understanding that even basic military shooter only qualifies at 300 yards, I know the Marine qualify at 500 yds or used to. Military Snipers are a whole different skill level but, that is not and would not be required to make that shot. Even environmental factors favored the shooter.
Yes, all reports indicate one shot. It's also been reported that the weapon used has been recovered in a nearby wooded area. Discarded by the shooter. It also appears to me (my opinion) that the shooter also missed an instant kill shot. A head or chest shot is most desirable for someone with this intent, not a neck hit that causes the victim/target to bleed out.
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Whenever a major event happens, I like to go to Democratic Underground to get a pulse of what the "true" Democrat party believes. Yes, Democratic Underground has very unhinged people on it... but this is the Democrat party's base, effectively. These are people that no matter what the party does, they will collectively (in their minds), justify everything because the party dogma has literally become their religion... and faith is hard to break.
What I see on Democratic Underground can be fit into three categories:
- Glee and excitement that "a nazi" was killed. - Blame towards Trump for "forcing people" to have to do this. - Narcissistic responses on how they now personally have to deal with backlash.
... yep.
All I can really say/think is this: Don't start something you can't finish. Even the Democrat Leadership is now damning the action/shooter for this, they realize that there are radicals on every side of every issue and don't wish to be the next target. Should this ignite a fire storm of reactions, they fully realize they could also be targeted. Hard to say which side has the better marksmen at this point. Although, I do believe the Conservative side has way more weaponry and ammo in storage and hunting experience.
What this assassination does tell me is that when the Left is losing its battles and debates with such speakers, then the answer appears to be if you can't win the debate, just shoot the speaker to shut him up. Rams
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Originally posted by olejoedad: More Leftist violence against Conservatives ......
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Originally posted by Patrick: The shooting of Charlie Kirk by some nutcase is horrible and absolutely inexcusable... but IMO, comments like that just add to the ever growing divisiveness and hatred in the US. It just stirs the pot even more.
Opinions are like azzholes.
How much do you expect Conservatives to take ? ? ?
Stirs the pot ? Is Trump really Hitler ? Is he really racist ? Charlie Kirk ? Did he do anything to stir the pot ? Other than being Charlie Kirk ? A man wanting to bring civility to debate others (like you).
olejoedad's post mentioned no names. Charlie Kirk never did also.
How much do you expect Conservatives to take ? ? ?
Stirs the pot ? Is Trump really Hitler ? Is he really racist ? Charlie Kirk ? Did he do anything to stir the pot ? Other than being Charlie Kirk ? A man wanting to bring civility to debate others (like you).
olejoedad's post mentioned no names. Charlie Kirk never did also.
I'd have to suggest that Charlie Kirk didn't consider arguing to be half the fun of the discussion. Others have stated that's why they do it.
I haven't watched the videos that much, but those two guys near Charlie did kinda look like they were sending signals. Could just be two guys adjusting their clothing. Was the shooter that person on the roof?
Saw this, kinda feel like it wasn't "just some guy".
It TOTALLY could be "just some guy", I'm not sayin' the words in that image are accurate.
Was there only one shot?
This wasn't a professional. When I worked for the NSA, I had to qualify under the "standard" military qualifications for what was called "World-Wide Ready" status... so that I could travel (TDY) to hostile areas. As a civilian, I would never have the authority to use the weapon unless I was basically cornered and my life was directly in danger. My responsibility was literally to run away if things ever got bad. But we had all kinds of people on qualifying week. I'm a pretty fit male, but we had overweight language analysts, and even retired Vietnam-era solders turned-intel people who hadn't fired a weapon since the 70s.
We used to shoot 300 feet as our furthest difference, and almost everyone qualified after a weekend. We used the M5 rifle, which is basically a fully automatic AR-15, which has far less accuracy than a bolt-action rifle. We only shot the M5 in single shot mode, and we qual'ed at closer range with an M9 or Baretta or whatever it's called.
I'm the last person you'd imagine (I mean that) as being a good shot, and I aced the qualifying. 200 feet, almost anyone can do after just watching a YouTube video.
They didn't just kill Charlie Kirk. They silenced someone they didn't agree with, used violence because they didn't like what he said. Didn't use the right to free speech to debate with him. They killed his voice. Could have been anyone's voice. Where does it stop?
Now some nutter on the left is thinking the same thing. This has got to end, we can not continue to be divided. We can not have some group with power leveraging a system that was never meant to be like this.
I didn't follow Charlie Kirk, the little bit of knowledge I have is he was a big supporter of free speech. I also see the people that are celebrating his murder and wonder how could we have fallen so far into dementia that this happens in our time.
It just feels like someone is grooming these kids and it's out of hand. People are dying instead of talking.
The boat was over the horizon before you even reached the dock.
Can you better convey then? Because it was a near 7-minute screed on how he felt it was all Trump's fault, with emotional pauses in between each statement. He never got to the point, and I got tired of hearing about it so couldn't finish it.
Was there a point other than he thinks Trump is at fault? In the last 10 seconds, did he say... "We shouldn't hurt people we didn't agree with?" Good... then he should have said that first.
Thanks for posting that, although considerably 1 sided, it can be used as an example for both sides to take a look at THEMSELFS and reflect how they may have contributed to this divide in America. This goes farther back than just a decade.
Personally, I believe it goes back to November 22, 1963. I don't think the US ever fully recovered from that awful event.
Yes, the video may appear to be "1 sided"... but was anything he stated actually untrue? I fully understand why Trump supporters might find offense with what was said in that video, but ignoring the facts is not going to resolve the situation. For whatever reason, Trump is willfully feeding this frenzy.
I am afraid for your country. No, I'm not joking around and/or hoping to push anyone's buttons. I have friends and family in the States. I don't wish to see them at risk. And I don't wish to be living next door to a powerful country in the grip of a civil war.
Saner heads need to prevail, on both sides of the political spectrum. It needs to happen soon... if it's not already too late.
I also see the people that are celebrating his murder and wonder how could we have fallen so far into dementia that this happens in our time.
There's a psychology to this, and it can be best explained by quite literally, looking at WW2 / Hitler. After the war, lots of psychiatrists and psychologists questioned and evaluated how the German people could allow the Jews, Catholics, disabled, etc., to be killed... knowingly. In effect, how could a people knowingly advocate for the death of people whom... many of them had previously known.
This is similar to the basic view that many had of Africans that were brought over as slaves.
The general consensus is that when a populace can be convinced that a group of people are either below them, worth less than them, or somehow deserving of different treatment (because, whatever), the ability for the human mind to cause or perform an atrocity can be justified.
This is no different than a Russian dictator sending their soldiers out to knowingly die, and shooting them in the back when they retreat, or someone of means who treats the staff like garbage, etc. To Charlie Kirk's point, when you stop having conversations, that's when bad things happen. When people isolate themselves into echo chambers (like BlueSky, for example), you continue to become re-inforced with the same rhetoric and your mind comes to accept only one reality... and you get what just happened yesterday.
Personally, I believe it goes back to November 22, 1963. I don't think the US ever fully recovered from that awful event.
Yes, the video may appear to be "1 sided"... but was anything he stated actually untrue? I fully understand why Trump supporters might find offense with what was said in that video, but ignoring the facts is not going to resolve the situation. For whatever reason, Trump is willfully feeding this frenzy.
I am afraid for your country. No, I'm not joking around and/or hoping to push anyone's buttons. I have friends and family in the States. I don't wish to see them at risk. And I don't wish to be living next door to a powerful country in the grip of a civil war.
Saner heads need to prevail, on both sides of the political spectrum. It needs to happen soon... if it's not already too late.
I'm not old enough to remember Kennedy, but he seemed like an amazing president and his speeches are epic. He was shot by a communist, if I remember correctly.
I think suggesting that all of this is Trump's fault is willfully ignoring everything that led up to it. In the 80s and 90s, you had the usual back and forth. You and I can both agree to dislike Bush Jr. for going into war without a plan, and maybe even a misaligned purpose. But I really felt like the irresponsible rhetoric began near the end of Bush's term. It continued with Obama. Talk under Joe Biden's presidency was something I've just never seen before in my entire lifetime... every day was vitriol. Trump is a symptom of something that started before him, and I absolutely don't think Trump is to blame for Charlie Kirk getting shot. I blame the shooter, and I blame mental illness... which is rampant.
By the way, someone negged me, which is fine... I can handle it. But I didn't neg you, if you thought it was me.
By the way, someone negged me, which is fine... I can handle it. But I didn't neg you, if you thought it was me.
I get negged continually. Certain people here don't wish to hear any opposition to their political views. IMO, the PFF rating system shouldn't apply to P&R.
That video was nothing more than a selection of the most bitter and unhinged collection of left-wing talking points. All of his words boil down to "Trump sucks". Nothing more. Nothing less. And nothing new. It's got a bunch of hand wringing, pearl clutching, and "earnest sounding" words, but it's all the same bullshit. But yeah... He seems to think things are going to get worse? I'm certainly not campaigning for it. But I will respond to "the crazy".
Where'd that come from? You've been about 50/50 forever. One neg only goes so far. "One man - one vote", as it were. Too bad we don't have a "PFF Electoral College", to further spin up the dumb masses.
Where'd that come from? You've been about 50/50 forever. One neg only goes so far. "One man - one vote", as it were.
You're obviously unaware of how the rating system works here. That little triangle thing (more or less in the middle of the ratings bar) is nudged left or right by pos/neg ratings, not only by first time raters, but also by members who have rated that individual previously.
Any member can be repeatedly rated here by the same person... about once a week. And that, Raydar, is how I get "negged continually".
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I get negged continually. Certain people here don't wish to hear any opposition to their political views. IMO, the PFF rating system shouldn't apply to P&R.
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That is called evil. He is stoking the fires for more assassinations.
At least he is open about what he is doing. Democrats, the media and leftists in general do the same thing only they call their political opponents Nazis or fascists and accuse them of committing genocide. It makes it all so much easier to pull the trigger when you think the person you are killing is equivalent to Hitler.
