Protestants from slaveholding states settled in northern Mexico where slavery was illegal and you had to be a Catholic to own property. The settlers all claimed they had converted to Catholicism and their slaves were just indentured servants.
Once they got enough settlers, they decide that they wanted to be Protestant slave owners again so they went to war over "freedom". Can't blame them because the country of Mexico was a mess at the time.
Originally posted by BingB: Protestants from slaveholding states settled in northern Mexico where slavery was illegal and you had to be a Catholic to own property. The settlers all claimed they had converted to Catholicism and their slaves were just indentured servants.
Once they got enough settlers, they decide that they wanted to be Protestant slave owners again so they went to war over "freedom". Can't blame them because the country of Mexico was a mess at the time.
Here's something that's sure to light up (pun intended) cliffw's face with pride!
"Texas will add more grid batteries than any other state in 2024"
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With cheap land and a competitive market irresistible to energy storage developers, the Lone Star State will even overtake California in battery deployments this year.
California and Texas have a new clean-energy superlative to compete over: who’s got the most grid batteries.
Last year, Texas overtook California in large-scale solar power capacity. When huge amounts of solar power rush onto the grid, [grid-connected] batteries tend to follow. Now, Texas is building more grid batteries than California, the longtime undisputed leader in clean energy storage.
Developers are expected to complete 6.4 gigawatts of new grid battery capacity in Texas this year, according to the federal Energy Information Administration. That’s more than double the 5.6 gigawatts of battery capacity it ended 2023 with. It’s also as much battery capacity as the entire United States built last year, which was a record year for the energy storage industry. The projection outpaces the 5.2 gigawatts set to come online in California.
The surge of batteries in these states underscores the fact that energy storage is an increasingly major part of the country’s transitioning electricity system. The U.S. is slated to add 14.3 gigawatts of battery storage overall this year; that represents 23% of all new power plant capacity. Climate analysts have long called for massive storage expansion to facilitate a shift to low-carbon energy — now it’s finally starting to happen.
Curiously, there's no reference to wind energy in this article. I think that's an oversight, because grid-connected batteries complement wind and solar energy in exactly the same way: by storing surplus power during the peak generation hours for wind and solar, and then releasing the stored power back to the grid as needed, which might well be after sunset or during hours when the wind is lessened. It's doubly curious, because Texas is the acknowledged leader among the 50 states in producing wind energy.
I think it's safe to say that all or almost all of these new grid-connected battery installations are using some version of the common lithium ion battery technology. It's been the dominant technology for grid-connected batteries.
If only those hardy pioneers who paved the way for Texas to gain independence from Mexico and then become part of the United States could have foreseen that their historical descendants would be in the vanguard of the pivot from carbon intensive fuels like oil and gas, towards more climate friendly sources of energy like wind and solar... their visages would have been lit with "Net Zero" pride as luminously as cliffw's when he sees this!
"I LIKE what they're doing about this in Texas!"
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Originally posted by rinselberg: Here's something that's sure to light up (pun intended) cliffw's face with pride!
"Texas will add more grid batteries than any other state in 2024"
I am not surprised. Everything is bigger in Texas.
You misunderstand me. I am not against wind, solar, tidal power, or hydroelectric power. I do not care if you fantasize about it. I also do not care if you think and believe your advocacy for Global Warming will save the planet and you will be a hero for doing so.
I do very much care that you are using my money for your ORGASM.
I do very much care that the leftoids are making fossil fuel more expensive to force us to to convert to Green Energy. Worse is banning the internal combustion engine, again to convert us to Green Energy. Intolerable is the removal of my freedom of choice.
What you would likely describe as a "free market" for energy and road vehicle alternatives does not meet the need, because any corrective feedback that would freely arise without government incentives and disincentives lags too far behind the immediate need to ramp up the Net Zero transition away from carbon-intensive energy towards low and preferably zero carbon energy.
What you would likely describe as a "free market" for energy and road vehicle alternatives does not meet the need, because any corrective feedback that would freely arise without government incentives and disincentives lags too far behind the immediate need to ramp up the Net Zero transition away from carbon-intensive energy towards low and preferably zero carbon energy.
That is not the job of government. The "government" needs to sit down and shut up. We the people will do what is needed when it is needed.
Originally posted by williegoat: We the people will do what is needed when it is needed.
History proves that this is not true. Corporations did not stop poisoning our air and water until the government made them stop.
Individual citizens did not stop using aerosol sprays to prevent ozone depletion so the government regulated fluorocarbons.
Citizens would not safely dispose of their sewage so the government has to regulate that also.
Individual citizens do what they feel is best for themselves. If individual citizens were capable of doing what is best for the country on their own we would not even need governments. But history proves that they are not.
History proves that this is not true. Corporations did not stop poisoning our air and water until the government made them stop.
Individual citizens did not stop using aerosol sprays to prevent ozone depletion so the government regulated fluorocarbons.
Citizens would not safely dispose of their sewage so the government has to regulate that also.
Individual citizens do what they feel is best for themselves. If individual citizens were capable of doing what is best for the country on their own we would not even need governments. But history proves that they are not.
I am not surprised. Everything is bigger in Texas.
You misunderstand me. I am not against wind, solar, tidal power, or hydroelectric power. I do not care if you fantasize about it. I also do not care if you think and believe your advocacy for Global Warming will save the planet and you will be a hero for doing so.
I do very much care that you are using my money for your ORGASM.
I do very much care that the leftoids are making fossil fuel more expensive to force us to to convert to Green Energy. Worse is banning the internal combustion engine, again to convert us to Green Energy. Intolerable is the removal of my freedom of choice.
your freedom to DESTROY MY STATE ?
i DO WISH YOU WERE NOT THAT FREE
and care more about the consequences of spewing CO2
That is not the job of government. The "government" needs to sit down and shut up. We the people will do what is needed when it is needed.
IN HATTI RIGHT NOW
your kind of freedom is in action by we the armed gangs [people] criminal gangs do not like their members in prison so attack the prison and free their gang guys
hatti is a gov that is forced to set down and shut up you may get what you wish for there
"Individual citizens do what they feel is best for themselves. If individual citizens were capable of doing what is best for the country on their own we would not even need governments. But history proves that they are not."
and
"i DO WISH YOU WERE NOT THAT FREE "
In other words, the people are incompetent and have too much freedom.
Folks, this is the American Left. We need Trump more than ever.
Originally posted by BingB: History proves that this is not true. Corporations did not stop poisoning our air and water until the government made them stop.
Individual citizens did not stop using aerosol sprays to prevent ozone depletion so the government regulated fluorocarbons.
Citizens would not safely dispose of their sewage so the government has to regulate that also.
Individual citizens do what they feel is best for themselves. If individual citizens were capable of doing what is best for the country on their own we would not even need governments. But history proves that they are not.
Let me step back and make it clear that I am NOT in favor of forcing people to buy electric cars or outlawing gas engines. Governments need to take action to encourage people to make the right decision, but they should not get into punishing people for not making the best decisions.
Right now if you need a vehicle for long trips an EV just is not right for you. You should not be punished for not switching to an EV.
Inside every Leftist is a Totalitarian screaming to get out. Nudge, shove, shoot. Their "encouragement" pattern is always the same.
A sage warning about "leftists"..?
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Renewable power company BrightNight has been given the green light to develop Wyoming’s first “agrivoltaic” project, a positive step for both clean energy and the state’s many animal ranchers.
Agrivoltaics refers to the practice of using solar panels in conjunction with farming or animal ranching rather than replacing usable farmland with solar arrays. In agrivoltaic projects, the panels are strategically placed off the ground to provide shade for grazing animals or certain crops. This allows agriculture and clean energy to share the land instead of competing.
BrightNight’s Wyoming project, called The Dutchman Project, will involve more than one million solar panels, a battery storage facility, and a few miles of above-ground transmission lines being built on a 4,738-acre private ranch belonging to the Tillard family, who raise sheep.
I guess it's a good thing for the Tillard family that they caved, after being nudged and then shoved and then seeing one of their family members gunned down as a Green Energy "incentive." So only one of the Tillards went down before the family accepted the inevitable and acquiesced to cooperating with this "Dutchman" agrivoltaics project.
Those leftist totalitarian bastards at BrightNight and their corrupt accomplices in Wyoming's state government, literally pushing these agrivoltaic projects down hapless Wyoming residents' throats... like the Tillard family.
That was the first three paragraphs of a very brief report. It's almost half of the full report.
Wyoming to issue the state's first permit for an agrivoltaics project.
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A first for Wyoming, but agrivoltaic projects of various kinds are being developed in other U.S. states and other countries around the world.
This is a somewhat longer and considerably more informative report:
"In Wyoming, Sheep May Safely Graze Under Solar Panels in One of the State’s First “Agrivoltaic” Projects"
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The elevated photovoltaic panels can actually improve grazing conditions, a novelty that could help make solar projects more land-efficient and accepted in the ranching-heavy state.
Originally posted by rinselberg: What you would likely describe as a "free market" for energy and road vehicle alternatives does not meet the need...
Does not meet the need ? Who's need ?
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Originally posted by rinselberg: ... any corrective feedback that would freely arise without government incentives and disincentives lags too far behind the immediate need to ramp up the Net Zero transition away from carbon-intensive energy towards low and preferably zero carbon energy.
Even with leftoid incentives, the manufactures have stopped production of EVs. They don't sell.
Originally posted by randye: Inside every Leftist is a Totalitarian screaming to get out.
Leftists gotta Leftist
Nudge, shove, shoot. Their "encouragement" pattern is always the same.
Inside ever Right-wing extremist is someone so naïve that they think corporations will never do anything to hurt people in order to make a profit, but if they do then individuals can just stand up to them and make them stop with out any help from government regulations.
Originally posted by cliffw: Even with leftoid incentives, the manufactures have stopped production of EVs. They don't sell.
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Originally posted by BingB: Please tell me that you don't really believe this.
Go ahead, shop for an EV. The dealers (manufacturers) are trying the clear their lots of the so many which did not sell. some two years old, or longer.
Your leftoid government mandates they produce EVs.
I heard an interesting report that EV's actually produce more pollution than ICE cars.
Tire wear due to weight increases particulate matter from tire wear. More scrap tires due to increased tire wear. More damage to the roads due to the weight. Standard guardrails won't hold up due to the weight.
..... so naïve that they think corporations will never do anything to hurt people in order to make a profit, but if they do then individuals can just stand up to them and make them stop with out any help from government ....
Basically people who have no clue about history.
A Leftist so steeped in Marxist ideology that they have no knowledge of the free market forces of capitalism.
Basically people who have no clue about the failed history of Marxism, Statists or Totalitarianism.
Someone so naive that they have no knowledge of how individuals have ceased buying a corporation's harmful or objectionable products or services many thousands of times in history, thereby making them stop by using the power of free market economics, without government intervention.
You have no new argument FredBing.
Leftists gotta Leftist ...and their answer to every problem, real or imagined, is always; more government.
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Inside every Leftist is a Totalitarian screaming to get out.
That's "rich"... coming from a cartoonish acolyte of the MAGA-infested Republican Party that wants to insert itself like a gonzo right wing police force, bent on scripting and even censoring anything and everything that could happen in a school classroom—or a woman's womb.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: ... MAGA-infested Republican Party that wants to insert itself like a gonzo right wing police force, bent on scripting and even censoring anything and everything that could happen in a school classroom—or a woman's womb.
MAGA-infested Republican Party. Interesting phrase. Infesting being the "operate" word.
Gonzo. An interesting word which exposes the dark portion of you mind.
A woman's womb does not belong to her alone. She had the "choice" of not opening her legs. She also had her choice to use birth control, but did not.
If she wants sole control of if she has a baby or not, a man should have the choice of if he wants to pay child support.
A Leftist [BingB] so steeped in Marxist ideology that they [sic] have no knowledge of the free market forces of capitalism.
Basically people who have no clue about the failed history of Marxism, Statists or Totalitarianism.
Someone so naive that they have no knowledge of how individuals have ceased buying a corporation's harmful or objectionable products or services many thousands of times in history, thereby making them stop by using the power of free market economics, without government intervention.
You have no new argument FredBing.
Leftists gotta Leftist ...and their answer to every problem, real or imagined, is always; more government.
People in the U.S. continue to die prematurely from the adverse effects of cigarettes and other tobacco use:
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Cigarette smoking remains the leading cause of preventable disease, disability, and death in the United States, accounting for more than 480,000 deaths every year, or about 1 in 5 deaths.
What might these statistics be like if there had not been government intervention—which continues to this day—in the way of government funded or government-backed public information campaigns, warnings on cigarette packaging and at points of sale, and all the other ways that the federal and other levels of government across the U.S. have tried to discourage people from smoking cigarettes and other kinds of tobacco use?
Are there parallels in this with government and government-backed interventions in the U.S. and other nations around the world to curb the planet-warming effects of greenhouse gas emissions?
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Let me step back and make it clear that I am NOT in favor of forcing people to buy electric cars or outlawing gas engines. Governments need to take action to encourage people to make the right decision, but they should not get into punishing people for not making the best decisions.
Right now if you need a vehicle for long trips an EV just is not right for you. You should not be punished for not switching to an EV.
Could you please define what "Punishing people for not making the best decisions" means. The policies put in place by the Biden Administration on the fossil fuel industries and those requirements the EPA (also Biden driven) have forced the automakers to produce vehicles with little to no demand are punishing those who choose to use fossil fuel driven engines. Not only is that happening but, those not in favor of EVs are paying for the cost of helping the auto industry build vehicles very few want. So, I'm interested to know how you define "Punishment".
------------------ Rams Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. . You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.
Originally posted by rinselberg: People in the U.S. continue to die prematurely from the adverse effects of cigarettes and other tobacco use:
What might these statistics be like if there had not been government intervention—which continues to this day—in the way of government funded or government-backed public information campaigns, warnings on cigarette packaging and at points of sale, and all the other ways that the federal and other levels of government across the U.S. have tried to discourage people from smoking cigarettes and other kinds of tobacco use?
Are there parallels in this with government and government-backed interventions in the U.S. and other nations around the world to curb the planet-warming effects of greenhouse gas emissions?
Have your serious climate researchers proven Global Warming is going the kill the Earth prematurely ?
Are there parallels in this with government and government-backed interventions in the U.S. and other nations around the world to curb the planet-warming effects of greenhouse gas emissions?
No !
You are in the minority. You actually trust government.