If this is true then we definitely can't elect "super elite" Donald Trump as President, right? Is that what you all got from this video?
But, please explain to me how the super elite will benefit from taking away all our cars and air travel and food. Don't the super elite get rich from us buying all of those things? How do they make more money from enslaving us? I don't get it.
When one has enough money to secure their own and their family's future, their drug of choice is power.
Interesting theory.
Could you give me one example from real life? Because all I have ever seen from the wealthy elite was an attempt to gain more wealth (except for a few who decide to give it away).
A former FBI informant charged with fabricating a multimillion-dollar bribery scheme involving President Joe Biden’s family must remain behind bars while he awaits trial, a judge ruled Monday, reversing an earlier order releasing the man.
U.S. District Judge Otis Wright II in Los Angeles ordered Alexander Smirnov’s detention after prosecutors raised concerns that the man who claims to have ties to Russian intelligence could flee the country. Wright said he did not believe there were conditions of release he could set that would guarantee Smirnov would not escape.
“There is nothing garden variety about this case,” Wright said before announcing his decision. “I have not changed my mind. This man will be remanded pending trial.”
Former FBI informant Alexander Smirnov, second from right.
Former FBI informant Alexander Smirnov will be jailed while he awaits trial for fabrications about the Biden family. Associated Press; February 26, 2024. https://www.newsday.com/new...FBI-informant-w17497
Well... the thread is "What do you think is actually up?"
Former FBI informant Alexander Smirnov, second from right.
Former FBI informant Alexander Smirnov will be jailed while he awaits trial for fabrications about the Biden family. Associated Press; February 26, 2024. https://www.newsday.com/new...FBI-informant-w17497
Well... the thread is "What do you think is actually up?"
So, what you are saying is that the FBI is incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction. They are incompetent and cannot be trusted.
Originally posted by williegoat: So, what you are saying is that the FBI is incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction. They are incompetent and cannot be trusted.
Not at all. Alexander Smirnov had been an FBI informant, and the FBI came down on the side that he was providing accurate information, until he started talking about the Biden family.
The FBI was able to corroborate his previous information, but when Smirnov started talking about the Bidens, the FBI couldn't corroborate it, and then the FBI found the evidence that Smirnov was lying about what he said he knew about the Biden family. That's why Smirnov was indicted—on the basis of that evidence.
There was a period when Smirnov was still on the FBI's payroll as an informant, and the FBI was updating their file of what Smirnov was saying about the Biden family, but at the same time, the FBI was checking it out and they would eventually come to the conclusion that Smirnov was lying about the Bidens.
Smirnov was valued as an FBI informant, and it was Smirnov's contacts with Russian intelligence that made him a valued FBI informant, but apparently the Russians were able to turn him, and he began working with the Russians against the United States. He was getting his fabrications about the Biden family from the Russians... Russian disinformation.
That's the FBI doing TWO THINGS AT ONCE.
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Not at all. Alexander Smirnov had been an FBI informant, and the FBI came down on the side that he was providing accurate information, until he started talking about the Biden family.
The FBI was able to corroborate his previous information, but when Smirnov started talking about the Bidens, the FBI couldn't corroborate it, and then the FBI found the evidence that Smirnov was lying about what he said he knew about the Biden family. That's why Smirnov was indicted—on the basis of that evidence.
There was a period when Smirnov was still on the FBI's payroll as an informant, and the FBI was updating their file of what Smirnov was saying about the Biden family, but at the same time, the FBI was checking it out and they would eventually come to the conclusion that Smirnov was lying about the Bidens.
Smirnov was valued as an FBI informant, and it was Smirnov's contacts with Russian intelligence that made him a valued FBI informant, but apparently the Russians were able to turn him, and he began working with the Russians against the United States. He was getting his fabrications about the Biden family from the Russians... Russian disinformation.
Originally posted by Doug85GT: He [rinselberg] posted that [about Alexander Smirnov] as a red herring. It has nothing to do with the subject at all. That is one of [rinselberg's] old tactics he has used for years.
Former FBI-informant Alexander Smirnov has everything to do with this topic.
The FBI cautioned the likes of House Republicans James Comer and Jim Jordan that Smirnov's accusations of Ukraine-related corruption involving Joe and Hunter Biden had not been corroborated. But these Trump-infected MAGA doofuses ran full speed with Smirnov's accusations against the Bidens—ignoring the FBI's warnings. These House Republicans (along with Republican Senator Chuck Grassley) played up Alexander Smirnov's importance on Fox News and other Right Wing Nut Job media, which ran what I guess are literally hundreds of on-air references to Alexander Smirnov. These Republicans boasted about Smirnov as their star witness as they drooled about their prospects of impeaching President Biden.
Now Smirnov has been indicted on federal charges and he's in jail, confined to pre-trial detention, because he's an obvious flight risk.
Who is going to say that this reminds them of the Democrats and how the Democrats "hyped" the Mueller investigation?
The Mueller investigation produced a series of indictments against individuals and entities for interference with the 2016 U.S. presidential election on behalf of Russia, and for other crimes.
When I posted here about Smirnov, I didn't realize that Doug85GT was posting a YouTube video at the same time. He got in ahead of me.
This is a summary of the case from the U.S. Department of Justice—not from any news media. It's just over a 3-minute read. They use "Public Official 1" to signify Joe Biden, and "Businessperson 1" to signify Hunter Biden.
The very last sentence is a How To for federal justice system mavens like olejoedad and Doug85GT. It provides a way to have online access to court documents and other official information about the case.
"Grand Jury Returns Indictment Charging FBI Confidential Human Source [Alexander Smirnov] with Felony False Statement and Obstruction Crimes" U.S. Department of Justice; February 15, 2024. https://www.justice.gov/sco...-source-felony-false
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Beck is indeed a fear monger, but he is not really wrong when you stand back and look at the big picture. Obama set up this Rube Goldberg machine, Trump put it on ice and Biden kicked over the dominoes again. If you have been around long enough, it is a familiar tune.
If you are too young to remember Jimmy Carter, read up on the Mariel Boatlift. You might just realize that "Migrant Caravan" isn't a Biden original, it is a cover tune.
I find no fault with that last remark from Ray and I find no fault with that other recent remark from olejoedad, in so far as either of the remarks being expressive of a hateful attitude.
Ray's remark berates "Fox News" and the mendacious "[T]rump." The remark from olejoedad berates the "liberal media" as a purveyor of falsehoods and "mush."
When I strip away the superficial differences in the style of expression, they are very similar kinds of remarks, and each is representative of a very similar pattern of consistency from the one forum member (Ray) and the other forum member (olejoedad.)
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Originally posted by randye: "Useful" presumes that they could be used to accomplish given tasks or goals.
Accordingly, I am going to refer to them as "Useless Idiots".
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Originally posted by olejoedad: That is a more appropriate designation.
May I use that?
Actually, both are applicable.
The lemming in the front causes the ones behind it to also go over the cliff. They are useful for that. Much like the global warming idiots believe it is real.
Originally posted by williegoat: Beck is indeed a fear monger, but he is not really wrong when you stand back and look at the big picture.
I suppose some will say he is a fear monger. I would not. He did have interesting theories, many which had merit even if it seemed over the top. He was not a cut / copy / paste artist.
I thought he did a good job exposing the Chicago Climate Exchange, The trillion-dollar "cap and trade" market scam. The closing of the Chicago Climate Exchange was the final nail in the coffin of the Obama administration's effort to pass the controversial program meant to combat global warming.
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I suppose some will say he is a fear monger. I would not. He did have interesting theories, many which had merit even if it seemed over the top. He was not a cut / copy / paste artist.
I thought he did a good job exposing the Chicago Climate Exchange, The trillion-dollar "cap and trade" market scam. The closing of the Chicago Climate Exchange was the final nail in the coffin of the Obama administration's effort to pass the controversial program meant to combat global warming.
so proud of a plan to make the bro koch ever richer
but a what cost
and if the GW hit the tipping points hard methane is warmed and release and we are near that point today with warm oceans warm poles guess where the methane is hiding cost thru the sky for failing to limit or plan much like BuSh2 and his wars we lost at a very high cost GW will screw the grand kids who will curse your greed and oil mania
