Pennock's Fiero Forum
  Politics & Religion
  Ukraine is screwed.......... (Page 4)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version

This topic is 5 pages long:  1   2   3   4   5 
Previous Page | Next Page
next newest topic | next oldest topic
Ukraine is screwed.......... by blackrams
Started on: 01-20-2022 09:21 PM
Replies: 187 (2762 views)
Last post by: randye on 02-28-2022 08:59 PM
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-16-2022 09:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Holy **** ... what is wrong with you guys!!! Hahah... damn.




EDIT... I bet Sourmash has been licking toads. This combination is deadly...


[b]Licking Toads Leaves More Than a Bad Taste in the mouth


My people wouldn't know. That's a Central and South American practice.
I bet I'm just seeing the world the way it is without doing what Central and South Americans do. Our world is why the rest of the world wants a piece of our world.
IP: Logged
82-T/A [At Work]
Member
Posts: 25895
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 200
Rate this member

Report this Post02-16-2022 02:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:

My people wouldn't know. That's a Central and South American practice.
I bet I'm just seeing the world the way it is without doing what Central and South Americans do. Our world is why the rest of the world wants a piece of our world.



Who are "your people?" People of Caucasian race aren't a "people" any more than blacks are a "people." Are you saying "Americans" or are you referring to some other collective society? Because... almost half of South America is Caucasian.

Is this you?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/ne...toad-dancing-5948049


"Richard Mullins was in JJ’s Side Out Bar and Grill on Sunday morning wearing no shoes and he refused to offer an ID to security, who ushered him outside. When he refused to leave the property, police were called and the 41 year old reportedly began dancing in the parking lot. When officers arrived, he had picked up a toad and was licking it."





All I can say is... poor Patrick!!!

[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 02-16-2022).]

IP: Logged
Jake_Dragon
Member
Posts: 33127
From: USA
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 400
Rate this member

Report this Post02-16-2022 02:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I was expecting a boom.
Where the boom

Click to show
IP: Logged
82-T/A [At Work]
Member
Posts: 25895
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 200
Rate this member

Report this Post02-16-2022 02:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I was expecting a boom.
Where the boom

Click to show



I blame God for the feelings I have when you post. I'm sorry Lord Jesus... but you did do this to me.
IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-16-2022 04:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I'm doubtful you would understand what I'm saying, based on several previous discussions that you couldn't, and.blamed someone else because you couldn't.

I didn't say Caucasian nor White, but regarding who is White, govt and groups classify people who aren't one or the other as being such when they aren't. Hundreds of millions really arent but they call them.that on paper. It sure helps confuse population demographics and balance crime statistics to call Arabs, Iranians, Mexicans and others South of our border one of those groups.


IP: Logged
Jake_Dragon
Member
Posts: 33127
From: USA
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 400
Rate this member

Report this Post02-16-2022 05:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
IP: Logged
randye
Member
Posts: 14221
From: Florida
Registered: Mar 2006


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 204
Rate this member

Report this Post02-16-2022 11:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageSend a Private Message to randyeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


"Richard Mullins was in JJ’s Side Out Bar and Grill on Sunday morning wearing no shoes and he refused to offer an ID to security, who ushered him outside. When he refused to leave the property, police were called and the 41 year old reportedly began dancing in the parking lot. When officers arrived, he had picked up a toad and was licking it."





Had he already finished waxing the monkey?
IP: Logged
82-T/A [At Work]
Member
Posts: 25895
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 200
Rate this member

Report this Post02-17-2022 08:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:

Had he already finished waxing the monkey?


No, he was too busy going on about Mexicans and Muslims, how they're all brown and not like his people.
IP: Logged
blackrams
Member
Posts: 33302
From: Covington, TN, USA
Registered: Feb 2003


Feedback score:    (10)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 226
Rate this member

Report this Post02-17-2022 09:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:



Where does one sign up for this humanitarian program? (Asking for a friend.)

Rams.
IP: Logged
maryjane
Member
Posts: 70156
From: Copperas Cove Texas
Registered: Apr 2001


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 436
Rate this member

Report this Post02-17-2022 11:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by blackrams:


Where does one sign up for this humanitarian program? (Asking for a friend.)

Rams.

https://ukraine-brides.org/...y-a-ukrainian-woman/
Careful what you ask for, you may just get it.

[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 02-17-2022).]

IP: Logged
rinselberg
Member
Posts: 16118
From: Sunnyvale, CA (USA)
Registered: Mar 2010


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 147
Rate this member

Report this Post02-17-2022 02:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rinselbergClick Here to visit rinselberg's HomePageSend a Private Message to rinselbergEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The pain, it's plain, falls mainly on Ukraine.
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-17-2022 02:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


No, he was too busy going on about Mexicans and Muslims, how they're all brown and not like his people.


Lots of Sourh and Central Americans are White and/or Caucasian. But govt claims that hundreds of millions of people are when they are not. Because govt lies the same as the media.

Indians (from India) are largely Caucasian. Mexicans are mostly not.

When White Central and South Americans check the Hispanic White box it makes one a minority. They're separating themselves from White Americans and Europeans.

There are less than a billion White European type people. The globalists still call the remaining 7 billion people 'minorities'.

Saying these things triggers some people.

[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 02-17-2022).]

IP: Logged
randye
Member
Posts: 14221
From: Florida
Registered: Mar 2006


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 204
Rate this member

Report this Post02-17-2022 09:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageSend a Private Message to randyeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


Had he already finished waxing the monkey?





 
quote
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


No, he was too busy going on about Mexicans and Muslims, how they're all brown and not like his people.





I was actually referring to your "toad licking" comment in accordance with this:



Since there is an obvious distinction, we have to presume that calling someone a "toad waxing monkey licker" is ok.

[This message has been edited by randye (edited 02-17-2022).]

IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-18-2022 10:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Different rules for different people.
IP: Logged
82-T/A [At Work]
Member
Posts: 25895
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 200
Rate this member

Report this Post02-18-2022 11:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:

Different rules for different people.



I definitely did not call you that, I asked you if you had licked Patrick.
IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-18-2022 11:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
No, you specifically stated it about me and licking toads.
I wouldn't say that's the post that should've yielded a suspension. There were others you made that are worse.

[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 02-18-2022).]

IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-18-2022 11:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

sourmash

4558 posts
Member since Jul 2016
 
quote
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Holy **** ... what is wrong with you guys!!! Hahah... damn.




EDIT... I bet Sourmash has been licking toads. This combination is deadly...



IP: Logged
randye
Member
Posts: 14221
From: Florida
Registered: Mar 2006


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 204
Rate this member

Report this Post02-18-2022 07:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageSend a Private Message to randyeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:


No, you specifically stated it about me and licking toads.




You need to read and understand the rules.

It's NOT a violation of the rules unless he accused you of monkey waxing along with toad licking.


[This message has been edited by randye (edited 02-18-2022).]

IP: Logged
82-T/A [At Work]
Member
Posts: 25895
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 200
Rate this member

Report this Post02-18-2022 11:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:

No, you specifically stated it about me and licking toads.
I wouldn't say that's the post that should've yielded a suspension. There were others you made that are worse.




You'll be fine.
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 39479
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 464
Rate this member

Report this Post02-18-2022 11:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I asked you if you had licked Patrick.


Ummm... Todd, enough of this... okay? You're creeping me out, man!

IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-19-2022 11:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


You need to read and understand the rules.

It's NOT a violation of the rules unless he accused you of monkey waxing along with toad licking.






Yeah, I know. That's why I said it wasn't suspension worthy. But we've got our eye on him. If he makes one false posting move.....
IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
82-T/A [At Work]
Member
Posts: 25895
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 200
Rate this member

Report this Post02-19-2022 12:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:

Yeah, I know. That's why I said it wasn't suspension worthy. But we've got our eye on him. If he makes one false posting move.....



I think I was put on temporary ban many, many years ago... but I cannot remember. Probably in the months following 9/11.
IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-19-2022 12:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Double secret probation.
IP: Logged
maryjane
Member
Posts: 70156
From: Copperas Cove Texas
Registered: Apr 2001


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 436
Rate this member

Report this Post02-19-2022 04:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
About 4 hours until closing ceremony of the games in Beijing.
If it's going to be played, sometime after the closing the bigger game can get under way.
Ukraine calls tails, loses the toss, Putin elects to kick it off...........
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 39479
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 464
Rate this member

Report this Post02-19-2022 05:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:

But we've got our eye on him.


So are you on like what, a committee?
IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-19-2022 05:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
It's double secret.
IP: Logged
Patrick
Member
Posts: 39479
From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 464
Rate this member

Report this Post02-19-2022 06:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:

Double secret probation.


 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:

It's double secret.


So, does it take some sort of special membership here to be made privy to all these "double secrets"?
IP: Logged
rinselberg
Member
Posts: 16118
From: Sunnyvale, CA (USA)
Registered: Mar 2010


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 147
Rate this member

Report this Post02-22-2022 04:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rinselbergClick Here to visit rinselberg's HomePageSend a Private Message to rinselbergEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
On May 2, 1998, immediately after the Senate ratified NATO expansion, I called George Kennan, the architect of America’s successful containment of the Soviet Union. Having joined the State Department in 1926 and served as U.S. ambassador to Moscow in 1952, Kennan was arguably America’s greatest expert on Russia. Though 94 at the time and frail of voice, he was sharp of mind when I asked for his opinion of NATO expansion.

I am going to share Kennan’s whole answer:

“I think it is the beginning of a new cold war. I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else. This expansion would make the founding fathers of this country turn over in their graves.

"This Is Putin’s War. But America and NATO Aren’t Innocent Bystanders."

Thomas L. Friedman for the New York Times; February 21, 2022.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...in-ukraine-nato.html


After the demise of the Soviet Union, the U.S. and its longtime NATO allies pursued a policy of rapidly expanding NATO eastwards, bringing Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia--all nations that had been part of the former Soviet Union or within the Soviet sphere of influence--into the NATO alliance.

William Perry, who was the Clinton administration's Secretary of Defense from 1994 to 1997, argued against it.

"Russian hostility 'partly caused by west', claims former US defence head"
 
quote
William Perry says US contempt toward Russia as ‘third-rate power’ after end of Cold War played a big role

Julian Borger for the Guardian; March 9, 2016.
https://www.theguardian.com...artly-caused-by-west


I don't remember being apprehensive about it myself, but maybe if I had been "in the loop" when the policy was being argued...

This images is larger than 153600 bytes. Click to view.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-22-2022).]

IP: Logged
Wichita
Member
Posts: 20713
From: Wichita, Kansas
Registered: Jun 2002


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 322
Rate this member

Report this Post02-22-2022 05:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WichitaSend a Private Message to WichitaEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

[This message has been edited by Wichita (edited 02-22-2022).]

IP: Logged
rinselberg
Member
Posts: 16118
From: Sunnyvale, CA (USA)
Registered: Mar 2010


Feedback score: (2)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 147
Rate this member

Report this Post02-22-2022 06:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rinselbergClick Here to visit rinselberg's HomePageSend a Private Message to rinselbergEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
"In the long run, wars make us safer and richer"
Ian Morris for the Washington Post; April 25, 2014.
https://www.washingtonpost....587891b57_story.html


I'm not "All In" with that. I think this is likely more significant. It may not be the polar opposite of "In the long run..." in its interpretation of history, but I don't think it's congruent with it. Or, to put it another way: hardly the same, but maybe not a full 180 degrees apart.

"Human History Gets a Rewrite"
 
quote
A brilliant new account upends bedrock assumptions about 30,000 years of change.
William Deresiewicz for The Atlantic; October 18, 2021.
https://www.theatlantic.com...ory-humanity/620177/

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-22-2022).]

IP: Logged
82-T/A [At Work]
Member
Posts: 25895
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 200
Rate this member

Report this Post02-22-2022 09:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by rinselberg:

"In the long run, wars make us safer and richer"
Ian Morris for the Washington Post; April 25, 2014.
https://www.washingtonpost....587891b57_story.html


I'm not "All In" with that. I think this is likely more significant. It may not be the polar opposite of "In the long run..." in its interpretation of history, but I don't think it's congruent with it. Or, to put it another way: hardly the same, but maybe not a full 180 degrees apart.

"Human History Gets a Rewrite"
[QUOTE]A brilliant new account upends bedrock assumptions about 30,000 years of change.
William Deresiewicz for The Atlantic; October 18, 2021.
https://www.theatlantic.com...ory-humanity/620177/

[/QUOTE]


Looks like Russia invaded last night. They've rolled their tanks and soldiers in to the two regions that are considered sympathetic to Russian rule.

IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-22-2022 10:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
No he did not invade. That's msmedia bullcrap. He is supporting them.

The 2 Russian majority provinces declared independence almost a decade ago in hope that Russia would recognize them as he did with Crimea.

After the US and NATO started beating war drums goading Putin long enough, and shelled the ethnic Russians long enough Putin recognized them as independent. He's sending in support personnel so they can succeed.

White people should stop letting anti-White people tell us to kill each other.

[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 02-22-2022).]

IP: Logged
82-T/A [At Work]
Member
Posts: 25895
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 200
Rate this member

Report this Post02-22-2022 10:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:

No he did not invade. That's msmedia bullcrap. He is supporting them.

The 2 Russian majority provinces declared independence almost a decade ago in hope that Russia would recognize them as he did with Crimea.

After the US and NATO started beating war drums goading Putin long enough, and shelled the ethnic Russians long enough Putin recognized them as independent. He's sending in support personnel so they can succeed.

White people should stop letting anti-White people tell us to kill each other.




Or...

Ukraine voted to separate from the USSR upon collapse by a 90% vote in ~1991.


If NY and California decided that they wanted to cede to Canada, and then Canada moved tanks into California and NY because the libs there are so nuts and they wanted to join even more liberal people, that doesn't change the fact that it's still an invasion.

It's a semantic issue here, and I'm totally OK if we can't agree on the language, but basically... Russia just took land from Ukraine and are now occupying it.
IP: Logged
sourmash
Member
Posts: 4558
From:
Registered: Jul 2016


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 50
User Banned

Report this Post02-22-2022 11:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sourmashSend a Private Message to sourmashEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Or...

Ukraine voted to separate from the USSR upon collapse by a 90% vote in ~1991.

If NY and California decided that they wanted to cede to Canada, and then Canada moved tanks into California and NY because the libs there are so nuts and they wanted to join even more liberal people, that doesn't change the fact that it's still an invasion.

It's a semantic issue here, and I'm totally OK if we can't agree on the language, but basically... Russia just took land from Ukraine and are now occupying it.


That's not relative, though.
The USA and Victoria Newland created the colour revolution there. The Ukraine wasn't just floating along and decided to break up. It was done by our side.
They did it to weaken Russia.
They did it to gain power over Russia.
Putin has been overly patient.

The USSR was voted out of existence. California and NY were not part of Canada nor governed by someone controlling both in our lifetimes. Not even in our great-grandfather's lives.

The Ukraine was allowed to self determine upon breakup of the USSR. The regions of East are heavily majority Russian. NY nor California are made up of Canadians.

Crimea has historically been Russian or at least a protectorate of Russia. The neighboring provinces are mostly Russian.

NATO pledged not to expand Eastward beyond Eastern Germany's border during reunification. Putin is not responsible for the violations of that pledge.

All of this was instigated by NATO, the USA and their puppet Zellensky.
IP: Logged
blackrams
Member
Posts: 33302
From: Covington, TN, USA
Registered: Feb 2003


Feedback score:    (10)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 226
Rate this member

Report this Post02-22-2022 09:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by sourmash:

No he did not invade. That's msmedia bullcrap. He is supporting them.

The 2 Russian majority provinces declared independence almost a decade ago in hope that Russia would recognize them as he did with Crimea.

After the US and NATO started beating war drums goading Putin long enough, and shelled the ethnic Russians long enough Putin recognized them as independent. He's sending in support personnel so they can succeed.

White people should stop letting anti-White people tell us to kill each other.



Who is the President or leader of these two rogue countries that claimed independence from Ukraine? I've heard they claimed independence and Putin acknowledge them as independent countries but, nowhere have I seen who's supposedly in charge in these miniscule "new" countries?

Rams

IP: Logged
randye
Member
Posts: 14221
From: Florida
Registered: Mar 2006


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 204
Rate this member

Report this Post02-22-2022 09:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageSend a Private Message to randyeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by blackrams:


Who is the President or leader of these two rogue countries that claimed independence from Ukraine? I've heard they claimed independence and Putin acknowledge them as independent countries but, nowhere have I seen who's supposedly in charge in these miniscule "new" countries?

Rams


Claiming "independence" was just Step 1.

Step 2 is "asking" to become part of the Russian Federation ("Russia") which is what the majority ethnic Russians there have allegedly wanted for at least a couple of decades now.

..and YES, the Donbass region is indeed majority ethnic Russian owing to their settlement there since the Russian naval base at Sevastopol was founded in 1833 and the families of Russians remained and settled in the regions ever since.

I'm still not convinced that Russia wants to invade and occupy / "take back" all of Ukraine.

Russia DOES want to secure it's Black Sea fleet base at Sevastopol and stop NATO from being right on their own border,..... but beyond that?

All of this hysteria about "Putin wants to reestablish the USSR" is just that...hysteria......and nonsense propaganda.

[This message has been edited by randye (edited 02-22-2022).]

IP: Logged
blackrams
Member
Posts: 33302
From: Covington, TN, USA
Registered: Feb 2003


Feedback score:    (10)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 226
Rate this member

Report this Post02-22-2022 09:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by randye:


Claiming "independence" was just Step 1.

Step 2 is "asking" to become part of the Russian Federation ("Russia") which is what the majority ethnic Russians there have allegedly wanted for at least a couple of decades now.

..and YES, the Donbass region is indeed majority ethnic Russian owing to their settlement there since the Russian naval base at Sevastopol was founded in 1833 and the families of Russians remained and settled in the regions ever since.

I'm still not convinced that Russia wants to invade and occupy / "take back" all of Ukraine.

Russia DOES want to secure it's Black Sea fleet base at Sevastopol and stop NATO from being right on their own border,..... but beyond that?

All of this hysteria about "Putin wants to reestablish the USSR" is just that...hysteria......and nonsense propaganda.



OK, but if someone claimed independence, who be that? Someone is claiming to be in charge I assume?

Rams
IP: Logged
maryjane
Member
Posts: 70156
From: Copperas Cove Texas
Registered: Apr 2001


Feedback score: (4)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 436
Rate this member

Report this Post02-23-2022 01:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
In Luhansk, it would be Leonid Pasechnyk.
In Donetsk it is presumably Denis Vladimirovich Pushilin.
IP: Logged
blackrams
Member
Posts: 33302
From: Covington, TN, USA
Registered: Feb 2003


Feedback score:    (10)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 226
Rate this member

Report this Post02-23-2022 07:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by maryjane:

In Luhansk, it would be Leonid Pasechnyk.
In Donetsk it is presumably Denis Vladimirovich Pushilin.


Thanks

Rams
IP: Logged
olejoedad
Member
Posts: 20126
From: Back home again in Indiana
Registered: May 2004


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 201
Rate this member

Report this Post02-23-2022 04:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Something to read....

Any thoughts?


https://www.spiked-online.c...m-have-failed-again/
IP: Logged
Previous Page | Next Page

This topic is 5 pages long:  1   2   3   4   5 
next newest topic | next oldest topic

All times are ET (US)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock