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Firebird Cluster Build by rbell2915
Started on: 03-19-2020 05:59 PM
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Last post by: Dennis LaGrua on 02-23-2021 11:35 AM
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I think your doing a great job. i put a saturn ion redline cluster in my fiero and had some of the same issues, but i solved them by tilting the entire pod up 10-15 degrees which helped alot but wasn't to noticable to the eye. i can't seem to find a picture completed so i will have to go take one, but here is one early in development.
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Originally posted by anaverin:

I think your doing a great job. i put a saturn ion redline cluster in my fiero and had some of the same issues, but i solved them by tilting the entire pod up 10-15 degrees which helped alot but wasn't to noticable to the eye. i can't seem to find a picture completed so i will have to go take one, but here is one early in development.


If you could get a photo of how you tilted the cluster upwards and the finished product that would be great. Thank you.
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Originally posted by rbell2915:

Finally figured out my short. Somehow my wiring harness was contacting a metal piece. I added more tape to the C2 and C3 connectors and that seems to have solved the problem.

Here is a quick demo of the finished product.



Looks great!
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Looks great!


Thank you! Needs some polishing up (eventually) but I'm happy with how it turned out.
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Report this Post02-07-2021 06:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rbell2915Click Here to Email rbell2915Send a Private Message to rbell2915Edit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
My Regal GS is currently down for a timing chain and water pump replacement and the Fiero is the daily driver right now and I decided that I am not happy with the way my gauge cluster currently is. When I'm done repairing the Regal I'm planning on having another try at the gauge cluster. Here it is from my point of view.



The top of the cluster isn't visible and the vinyl is starting to sag. I remembered a post from a thread several years ago...


 
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Originally posted by Sofa King Here:

MASSIVE MAJOR HUGE AWESOME UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As of this moment the radio stack design has changed! Why? Well... A few changes are about to take place. I mentioned that I received a package in the mail... Check it out!

The Package - if you notice... the delivery man left the package in the friggin rain. UGH... Luckily there was enough packing material to protect the contents. What contents?


Unloading all the goodies... what could it be?


Wait? HUH?


This dash cluster won't fit in a Fiero! Or will it?


BINGO


Backside


Up close


Side View


I am really PUMPED about this project and can't wait to get started on creating the new center stack.


I'm hoping I can drop the cluster off with Jeremy at the Fiero Factory. He likes to tinker with electronics so this is going to be a MASSIVE challenge for him - I hope he's up for the task. If there is anybody in the Huntsville, AL area who is electronics whiz... drop me a line! I know it's not an exact replica of the concept cluster but I think it's cool either way. 89 Concept Dash... Here I come! LOL

STAY TUNED!!!!!



Sadly this never went anywhere.

I am going to attempt to replicate this. One thing I know for certain is that the rear cover on this custom housing is not deep enough for the Firebird gauge cluster as the plug is in the back and will hit it (you can see on the first page).

My fiberglassing skills are extremely limited so I am not sure how exactly I am going to go about this. I'm going to watch some videos on YouTube to get some ideas. Maybe I can create the housing out of foam, cover it with felt, then fiberglass over it? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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i have done lot of projects with fiber glass. My prefered method is to use spray foam in the can. build up a block on whatever it is your working on and cut and sand down the foam to get shape you want them glass over the top. if you need you can dig out the foam when done. I always look at it like an art project. just be patient
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Originally posted by IMDMAN:

i have done lot of projects with fiber glass. My prefered method is to use spray foam in the can. build up a block on whatever it is your working on and cut and sand down the foam to get shape you want them glass over the top. if you need you can dig out the foam when done. I always look at it like an art project. just be patient


I think I'll be sculpting it from XPS foam. I've seen a lot of people make some very complicated creations from it and it seems to be quite strong. It appears that I can seal it with some sort of paint or spray to give it added strength.

Things I'll need:

I am going to need another gauge cluster housing to cut up and modify for the new housing.

I'll also need another speedometer assembly (from a V6 I believe) in order to delete the third gen F-body buffer. It's very large and space is at a premium.

Lastly, I need to figure out how to build an HEI filter so my tach will finally read properly.
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Been doing some digging around PFF and I am thinking about trying to install a HUD display as well. There is a massive junkyard about an hour away from me and I'm sure they'll have everything I need to start tackling this. Last time I was there they had four or five Fieros. I don't think they ever crush their inventory. Hopefully my daily driver will be fixed this weekend and next weekend I'll take a trip to the yard.
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I know there's been some issues regarding a double image on the HUDs due to the way the windshield is made. I think I've come up with a way to minimize that issue. It seems to me that most people using a HUD have it mounted aiming straight up.

If I can mount the HUD inside the rear gauge cover and aim it perpendicular to the windshield that should drastically reduce the ghosting problem.

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Watching this closely as I have an Amida G1 dash waiting to go in and curious to see if the firebird gauges would fit...

What model and year Firebird is this from?
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Originally posted by msweldon:

Watching this closely as I have an Amida G1 dash waiting to go in and curious to see if the firebird gauges would fit...

What model and year Firebird is this from?


It's from a V6 Firebird. I think it came out of a 1995. Basically anything earlier than 1998 is good to go, I think.
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this is amazing!

Nice work!
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Nice job but if you kept the Firebird Half Moon shaped housing, you would have ended up with the more modern prototype 1990 Fiero gauge cluster look.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Nice job but if you kept the Firebird Half Moon shaped housing, you would have ended up with the more modern prototype 1990 Fiero gauge cluster look.



I have it. It's massive. There is just no way for it to work. So I'm going to have to try and create my own.
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Originally posted by rbell2915:


I have it. It's massive. There is just no way for it to work. So I'm going to have to try and create my own.


Scrolled too fast. Yes I backed up in the thread and saw that. You say that the console is massive. I'm just wondering how GM got the Firebird gauge console to fit the1990 Fiero prototype? The 1990 prototype was longer but it may have been wider as the design concept was used on the 4th Generation Firebird. Keep up the good work. I like it.

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