All i have been able to do is check codes and i cleaned all the distributor cap connections. The only code i have is either 31 or 32. My apologies, i have slight dyslexia and its hard to count the blinks. I took a video of the car trying to start , id appreciate it if anyone would take a look and see if it gives any more info that can be added. In the mean time ill try to do the tests you all listed.
Side note, link to thread on removing dash would be appreciated, i have to drill new speaker mounts and i need to take the dash out/lift it out half way
------------------ 87' GT 5 speed 😤 16 years old My IG for daily motivation: Alpha_Photos
Originally posted by tshark: Remove the speaker covers (gently pry up with a flat blade). Then remove the 2 screws in each speaker well for the dash. Remove the trim under the steering column (4 screws). Remove the bolt under the dash on each side. Remove the trim behind the instrument cover (3 screws). Disconnect the 2 electrical connectors on the back of the instrument cluster from each side. Unscrew the 4 screws from bezels on each side of the instrument cluster, and disconnect both plugs (or however many you have) on each side. Remove the instrument cluster. The options are exterior lights, dimmer, defrost, and trunk release). Pull the retaining clip out of the shift knob (auto). Remove the shift plate and surround (4 screws). Remove the HVAC housing bezel (4 screws). Remove the 4 screws holding the aux gauges. Unclip the electrical plug. Remove the aux gauges. Lower the steering wheel. Pull the dash out, gently.
I think that'll do it.
[This message has been edited by tshark (edited 03-01-2016).]
Still no luck. I cleaned the spark plug wires where they connect. Today i replaced the spark plugs, didnt fix it but i noticed 2 things. First is what looks like a vacuum line broken second seems like a wire out of place.
Here outlined in red is where i think another vacuum tube i found attaches... and in my hand is the wire i found
Pic of the tube i believe connects in the photo about
And lasty here is a photo of where the wire comes from. Could either of these things be causing the car not to start? Replaced spark plugs didnt help Not firing
------------------ 87' GT 5 speed 😤 16 years old My IG for daily motivation: Alpha_Photos
[This message has been edited by painandgain99 (edited 03-04-2016).]
You're correct in your assumption about the vacuum line. It's a source of filtered air for the EGR solenoid. The metal line on the bulkhead runs over to the air filter canister. It has no effect on your car starting.
The braided copper wire is a ground wire. The end you're holding normally has an eyelet on it. You'll probably find it attached to the bottom bolt on your decklid hinge. The end that's attached to the engine might be a little hard to get to, but if you can remove it, the braided straps are readily available at your auto parts stores. This also has no effect on whether the car will start.
I suggest that you look at your ignition coil. Not the ignition module, but the ignition coil. Have you tried starting fluid into the intake? If it doesn't try to run, it's spark. Have you tried pulling a plug wire, inserting an old plug and grounding it against the engine while someone tries to start it?
Update. I have replaced spark plugs, distributor cap and rotor. The car fired, but only for one second then died. Will not fire again. GIVEN the nature of the start, it sounded like it was lackimg fuel (like when its out of gas) but it obviously isnt out of gas, half a tank of premium. I have not checked anything eletrical yet(no voltmeter) or the fuel filter which i think ill do next (or the pump, worst case scenario i believe?) Any opinions on the updated info?
------------------ 87' GT 5 speed 😤 16 years old My IG for daily motivation: Alpha_Photos
Not usually. Its the first thing i did when it wouldnt stary i thought it could have been reading wrong and been out of gas. Sometimes ill put some premium in. I have only filled up the tank once with 97 octane and it was when i changed the oil
------------------ 87' GT 5 speed 😤 16 years old My IG for daily motivation: Alpha_Photos
Perhaps buying Fiero that actually runs would be your best next move since this one is a rolling hunk of bullshit. Six pages of bullshit is stupid. Sell it and buy from someone who actually cares about their Fiero.
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Perhaps buying Fiero that actually runs would be your best next move since this one is a rolling hunk of bullshit. Six pages of bullshit is stupid. Sell it and buy from someone who actually cares about their Fiero.
Thats cute. I remember when i used to be a troll. And was 12. These hunks o' bullshit are the reason for this website sonnnn. Go on, get.
Update. New fuel filter. No luck, gas was coming out of the new filter with one end unscrewed and someone trying to start the car. Pulled a plug and tried to touch it on something while someone was starting the car, no spark. Checks resistance of the ignition coil top plug, 1.7ohms. Top plug to the spark plug wire cap part, no ohm reading. Does this now mean its the ignition coil?
------------------ 87' GT 5 speed 😤 16 years old My IG for daily motivation: Alpha_Photos
Pain, your thread is a long and winding road, and maybe you have done this already......but doing it again may help.
Crank the starter and watch the tach needle. if it goes up to about 300 as the car is cranking, you have a functioning primary ignition. Spray some starting fluid while cranking and see if it will run briefly. If it does, you have a fuel delivery problem.
If the tach does not move, you need to fix the primary ignition.... let us know which it is.
Try pushing the clutch pedal to the floor, shifting into first then shifting into reverse to avoid the grinding.
It was a bittersweet experience reading this entire thread. But this golden nugget of advice made it oh so worth it! Thanks David Hambleton! No more grinding into reverse for me.
It was a bittersweet experience reading this entire thread. But this golden nugget of advice made it oh so worth it! Thanks David Hambleton! No more grinding into reverse for me.
Been using that little trick for decades. Sometimes at a light, it can be hard to get in to first as well. Putting it in second, then first solves that problem as well. One of the quirks of the Fiero.