quote Originally posted by Khw: I agree. Car customizing is pretty amazing in Cali. It's something I witnessed first hand back in the 80's when I got my license to drive. Some friends had older 60's muscle cars, others had lifted 4 X 4 trucks and then there was the culture I went to with my lowered mini-truck. There was even some who would lower and customize cars like the Nissan Sentra and the Ford Escort back then. I had friends in all of those groups, closest friend with a 82 4 X 4 Toyota with a suspension and body lift along with 36" Super Swamper tires, so I appreciate just about all of it except maybe the hydraulic hoping cars... My parents still live in Cali, which we will be going back to visit this winter, and my Dad D.J.'s for car shows as well as showing his 72 Chevelle a 60 something Ford truck there. Heck, my Dad taught me to weld so I could do a box notch on my mini-truck and lower the rear some more. Funny when I compare Cali to here as far as cars go. Here they do a "smog check" and a "safety inspection". In Cali all they ever did was a "smog check". A person could drive a car that's about to have it's bumpers fall off with a broken e-brake and loose tie rod ends in Cali as long as it passed smog. Here? Not a chance.

Yeah I saw a semi on the 15 in Ontario that was missing a whole fender along with the headlight then when he passed he didn't have any rear doors but had a shower curtain to cover the back that was flailing in the wind. Saw a 1967 nissan pu that was still wearing it's original paint but 2 weeks ago.

quote Originally posted by Tinkrr: A long time ago when I joined this forum it was the go to Fiero forum. If the forum has degenerated to the point were it's acceptable to put down one year Fiero in favour of another perhaps it is losing it's lustre. For sure it's immaturity is showing. I watched Blooseberry leave, with great regret, however, I do now understand.

Not sure what you mean. No one is putting down anyone's choice of vehicles. Non-objective like/dislikes were discussed. No one should feel defensive. As this conversation has shown there are good reasons for choosing either an 88 or a pre88.

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Pre-88s are much better for driving sideways.

Two years ago I bought an 86 GT 4 spd manual for 600$ with a bad motor with the intentions of doing a swap. Recently I had acquired an 88 coupe 4 cylinder from another forum member for 600$ and it runs. Depending on where you go prices vary. I am glad to have found one for the price as I, like many were after the unique suspension set up. I still am planning on doing a motor swap but I will prolly limp it around with the duke for awhile before I do. I was looking for an 88 GT but finding one for less than 5 grand with high mileage around here where I live is next to impossible so I am gonna swap the fast back clip onto the coupe and convert it from auto to stick with my 86 parts. So though it will not be original and it will be an 88 GT clone, I'm ok with that cause I can use the money I didn't have to spend on a real 88 GT on the swap.