I do not know too much about the car, other than it is GORGEOUS in person! The owners name is Henk, and he brought it to a car show in March of last year. He was talking about how much time and money he put into the car, including the black paint with the hint of pearl in it.
The car IS an absolute steal at that price, it would cost probably twice his asking price just to have a V8 professionally installed!
Here is a picture I took, it's a little different angle with the hood and decklid open:
What exactly do you mean Rick? I know NOTHING about IMSA's, but I do have his number here, and can give him a call to ask any questions.
I don't wana to waste his time as I cant buy it but what I mean is who made the body, there is DGP IRM and Fiero warehouse, Seeing that its a fastback that rules out DGP
I don't wana to waste his time as I cant buy it but what I mean is who made the body, there is DGP IRM and Fiero warehouse, Seeing that its a fastback that rules out DGP
Yea, I know nothing about the manufacturers of the IMSA body panels, but based on what you have said thus far, I can now answer your question for you..... Those are Fiero Warehouse panels, not DGP.
Yea, I know nothing about the manufacturers of the IMSA body panels, but based on what you have said thus far, I can now answer your question for you..... Those are Fiero Warehouse panels, not DGP.
I figured it was, unless he got his hands on an IRM kit but they are a bit hard to come by... Gorgeous car though.
You do realize that the Fiero Warehouse panels are the IRM molds correct? Doug bought all the molds from Jim so they are basically the same panels only cleaned up by Sage.
On my IMSA all the panels say DGP004 if I recall. But I'm told this number can be found on all the panels made from the same mold. I couldn't tell you if mine was a DGP kit or an IRM kit. But it is a complete stageII bumper pad.
You do realize that the Fiero Warehouse panels are the IRM molds correct? Doug bought all the molds from Jim so they are basically the same panels only cleaned up by Sage.
On my IMSA all the panels say DGP004 if I recall. But I'm told this number can be found on all the panels made from the same mold. I couldn't tell you if mine was a DGP kit or an IRM kit. But it is a complete stageII bumper pad.
I know that and IRM got there molds from DGP I'm just saying that an IRM kit is a little harder to come by than FW.
Also DGP's from what I've seen have a metal tag riveted into the fender(in the lining to the hood) with a number on it, (I cant recall what the number on mine is) Also DGP has Diversified Glass Product's stickers on each of the body panels if their still there they should be easy to find.
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Someone though you were selling your car from the title of the thread. Once they figured out that wasn't the case they got mad and negged ya! Wasn't me but I thought about it
I have the 1st one made and all panels are marked DGP in the glass from the moldand the panels like left front LF and so on. The rockers are also marked but I forget what they say. IRM May have just sanded this off when they built them but not sure. Fiero Warehouse has them now and the DGP mark is still on them if I remember right. Rick B
HEY I think something is going on as my score showed 172 and almost at the far right in the green but now shows in the middle. I haven't posted anything to get a neg so I wonder if the system changed or a few kicked people got in under new names and made sure they did some red marking Rick B
Someone though you were selling your car from the title of the thread. Once they figured out that wasn't the case they got mad and negged ya! Wasn't me but I thought about it
Meh could be.... If that be the case some people need to learn how to live a lil... Plus no one wants my Cars right now....
The history as I recall DGP sold the molds and stock to IRM.
IRM sold the stock and molds to the Fiero warehouse.
Now what changes that were made with each ownership I do not know.
I do know the DGP stuff for sure went to IRM as they sold me one of the last DGP scoops they had gotten from them. I think I even have the letter somewhere that said it was the last and they were gearing up to make more with the molds.
This is the kind of car you buy as you can not build one yourself for this price. These buys are out there If you do not get in a hurry. This is a case where you spend $10K and in the long run save money as even doing the work yourself it would difficult to match the price. Just add up the cost of the parts alone and you will see how much you would have in it.
I think this car is on Craig's for show and tell. I emailed the owner about 4 days ago with a list of questions. No response. It does a appear to be a BUY!
What I like is it is not over done with crazy colors or graphics or other things that would not age well. A good solid color always ages well and will stand up to time.
Also no goofy interior. I have seen some that looked like someone threw up Crayola's. But here it is tasteful and looks contemporary even if it were done 20 years ago. Too many people do things that look good today but like that tattoo you got when you and your buddies were drinking some ideas can comeback to haunt you.
I think this car is on Craig's for show and tell. I emailed the owner about 4 days ago with a list of questions. No response. It does a appear to be a BUY!
I just talked to Henk on the phone, the owner of the car. He said he did get an email, and responded to an email with a full page of answers. He used the reply through Craigs List, as he did not have your direct email address.
As for the maker of the body panels, he is not sure off the top of his head. He purchased the car from someone in Miami some time ago with the panels installed. He says the info may be somewhere in the stack of paperwork he has for the car, and will look tonight to see of he can find out.
He is now aware of this thread, and is a registered member on here, but not sure what the info to log in is, as he never really frequented the forum, and it has been a long time since he has been on here at all. Henk said he will try to find the registration info for here, and then answer any questions that he can here in the thread.
The history as I recall DGP sold the molds and stock to IRM.
IRM sold the stock and molds to the Fiero warehouse.
Now what changes that were made with each ownership I do not know.
I do know the DGP stuff for sure went to IRM as they sold me one of the last DGP scoops they had gotten from them. I think I even have the letter somewhere that said it was the last and they were gearing up to make more with the molds.
This is the kind of car you buy as you can not build one yourself for this price. These buys are out there If you do not get in a hurry. This is a case where you spend $10K and in the long run save money as even doing the work yourself it would difficult to match the price. Just add up the cost of the parts alone and you will see how much you would have in it.
My 2 are an example of that... not to blow my own horn but between my 2 IMSA's I have less than $10000 between the both of them.
What I like is it is not over done with crazy colors or graphics or other things that would not age well. A good solid color always ages well and will stand up to time.
Also no goofy interior. I have seen some that looked like someone threw up Crayola's. But here it is tasteful and looks contemporary even if it were done 20 years ago. Too many people do things that look good today but like that tattoo you got when you and your buddies were drinking some ideas can comeback to haunt you.
See we have different points of views here. and my dad is with you on this one But what I explained to him was, these were not built to be sports cars (the body's that is) they were built to be race car's To be able to tuck larger wheels under them and better aerodynamics, Now there were 2 different variations of body's as well. A race body and a street body, This car as well as my 2 are examples of street body's, R runners (I believe) is a race body, they are much wider than the street body and have a much thinner fiberglass to the that were ment to built onto tube chaises, Now everyone has their own opinion on what they should be painted But me personally with the history that is behind these cars/body's they should be painted up in race colors either your own design or off one of the actual IMSA race cars, but that's just my opinion. For instance my GT IMSA is going to be getting the huffaker scheme down the road once I get it in driving order.
See we have different points of views here. and my dad is with you on this one But what I explained to him was, these were not built to be sports cars (the body's that is) they were built to be race car's To be able to tuck larger wheels under them and better aerodynamics, Now there were 2 different variations of body's as well. A race body and a street body, This car as well as my 2 are examples of street body's, R runners (I believe) is a race body, they are much wider than the street body and have a much thinner fiberglass to the that were ment to built onto tube chaises, Now everyone has their own opinion on what they should be painted But me personally with the history that is behind these cars/body's they should be painted up in race colors either your own design or off one of the actual IMSA race cars, but that's just my opinion. For instance my GT IMSA is going to be getting the huffaker scheme down the road once I get it in driving order.
You are correct sir. My IMSA is the race body and would not fit on a street frame without significant modification. The panels are thinner than the street IMSA as well. I measured the width at one time but now I have forgotten. I think it is around 76".
Now there were 2 different variations of body's as well. A race body and a street body, This car as well as my 2 are examples of street body's, R runners (I believe) is a race body, they are much wider than the street body and have a much thinner fiberglass to the that were ment to built onto tube chaises.
There is also at least 1 race body that has been modified to be mounted to a stock fiero chassis... its located about an hour from me. Last I knew the guy wanted about 7-8K for the body.
There is also at least 1 race body that has been modified to be mounted to a stock fiero chassis... its located about an hour from me. Last I knew the guy wanted about 7-8K for the body.
DGP made three and sent them to Colorado and they were all supposedly modified to fit fieros at the place they were sent. I say supposedly as maybe one or two were used on race cars but Bob Birchmeier said they told him all three were going on Fieros. Rick B
Just to say some info on my part... I have the last fastback widebody that IRM made from there molds before they sold the molds. My fastback widebody is a one complete piece starting from behind the doors with part of the rear roof complete. Basically the rear end is all molded as one part and 1/4 inch fiberglass throughout with the cut-out for the rear tail lights and trunk with no trimming required. I was asked and was puzzed why they didn't have the side moulding for the widebody but it came with the rear trim seperate below the tail lights and was ribbed not smooth and was told thats the only available as the street body was made for the ribbed moulding to work not the smooth. If you want to purchase the widebody fastback today, the rear clip I believe comes as two seperate side parts and without the rear roof section included as the side pannels now have to be moulded in and I believe the rear bumper may not be included anymore. As for the difference in the imsa street body and imsa race body all mentioned above is correct except I noticed when I bought the street body it has a lower an smaller rear wheel opening where the side trim goes above the wheel opening and the race body is like the regular fiero where the trim goes through the wheel opening and breaks into two parts. Mine is 77" wide as I noticed since the sides make a smaller wheel opening it also comes lower about 2.5 inches lower compared to the regular location that the trim would normally be located and its actually just a bit wider than the race body as the sides angles out about an extra half inch each side due to the side sloping lower above the wheel. The front street body also has the smaller wheel opening but I did not purchase the front as it would have to be matched with the front widebody bumper rather I purchase the lower front fenders that also makes the front wheel with a smaller opening just not as wide as the imsa front.
Just to say some info on my part... I have the last fastback widebody that IRM made from there molds before they sold the molds. My fastback widebody is a one complete piece starting from behind the doors with part of the rear roof complete. Basically the rear end is all molded as one part and 1/4 inch fiberglass throughout with the cut-out for the rear tail lights and trunk with no trimming required. I was asked and was puzzed why they didn't have the side moulding for the widebody but it came with the rear trim seperate below the tail lights and was ribbed not smooth and was told thats the only available as the street body was made for the ribbed moulding to work not the smooth. If you want to purchase the widebody fastback today, the rear clip I believe comes as two seperate side parts and without the rear roof section included as the side pannels now have to be moulded in and I believe the rear bumper may not be included anymore. As for the difference in the imsa street body and imsa race body all mentioned above is correct except I noticed when I bought the street body it has a lower an smaller rear wheel opening where the side trim goes above the wheel opening and the race body is like the regular fiero where the trim goes through the wheel opening and breaks into two parts. Mine is 77" wide as I noticed since the sides make a smaller wheel opening it also comes lower about 2.5 inches lower compared to the regular location that the trim would normally be located and its actually just a bit wider than the race body as the sides angles out about an extra half inch each side due to the side sloping lower above the wheel. The front street body also has the smaller wheel opening but I did not purchase the front as it would have to be matched with the front widebody bumper rather I purchase the lower front fenders that also makes the front wheel with a smaller opening just not as wide as the imsa front.
I to Own an IRM fastback which I have been told by a handful of people Was Jim Suiter Of IRM's old car Not saying It is but I like to think it was the 1st Street body Fastback made And you are correct about how they are put together, they come as 2 quarter panels and the rear bumper and require stripping of your notchback/fastback top skin, This has always puzzled me as to how they are put together now though
Here is my fastback IRM IMSA notice how the rear bumper is glassed together with the rest of the panels
Now this is my DGP notchback S3, The rear bumper is held onto the 1/4 panels with multiple screws running between the seams.
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Rick B
What I live for
And you are correct about how they are put together, they come as 2 quarter panels and the rear bumper and require stripping of your notchback/fastback top skin, This has always puzzled me as to how they are put together now though 
