Ehem, I beg to differ. I keep my political commentary to poltical threads. I will confess to an occassional political joke in other threads but I have never turned a non political thread into a political rant.
Mee thinks your perceptions are a bit biased
Well, I never said a rant, but I have seen you turn something that had nothing to do with politics into insinuating Obama's to blame. Like (these examples are not nesisarily you, but it is an example):
"I just retiled my bathroom!" "Obama said you didn't build that!" ~or~ "I Need to find a better job. Any ideas?" "Yea, don't vote for Obama!"
As a joke? Yeah, that is how it was presented. It may even have had a .
Just sayin'.
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Mee thinks your perceptions are a bit biased
Not against you. The subject, perhaps.
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I don't think his age is the issue, pretty sure age of consent is 16 and the family can choose to prosecute or not press charges. (know someone that dated and later married a 14 year old girl) But her being a teacher is an issue, she abused her position. She shouldn't be let back into any class room. But she has a good opportunity to join the too pretty to go to jail crowd.
I find no real problem with this... At 17, he's just barely under the cut but it's ignorant to say he was a victim in any way. Position of authority? Not great karma, but it isn't like anyone would really turn down that opportunity.
They have something going, good for them. In this case, I'd say it's up to family discretion anyway.
16 is age of consent here. A "position of authority restriction " isn't a legal definition, tho it might cost you your job.
wait, 'position of authority' ... umm never mind, its a family show.
Yes this is wrong. He was under age just like a girl that is under age. The laws should be the same for all. Why should a man go to prison for getting lucky with a 17 year old slut. But a woman not have to because the boy liked it. The laws should be the same for all and that is why it is wrong.
Might want to fact check your statement. He wasn't underage and had the right to choose.
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BECAUSE IT AIN'T ABOUT FREEDOM IT IS ABOUT CONTROL
So, Libs/Dems wanting to tell us what to drink/eat is freedom? Sounds more like control to me. You are so confused. You speak so much against Christian DOGMA. Maybe it's your DOGMA that is flawed. All your talk about NUT-CONS spueing hate, but that's ALL I ever read from your posts........HATE. HYPOCRITE ! ! ! I put it in caps for you.
According to the story the Boy was around 15, and the teacher around 25 when this all started. Since girls mature (mentally) years before boys I don't think there is a difference her
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15 is under the age of consent, so there should be legal repercussions.
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Posts: 4373 From: Bowling Green, KY. USA Registered: Aug 2008
You know if most of you had a boy you'd be like "that's my boy!" And if you had a girl you'd be ready to kill the teacher . It's a double standard.......it doesn't make it right, I know.
You know if most of you had a boy you'd be like "that's my boy!" And if you had a girl you'd be ready to kill the teacher . It's a double standard.......it doesn't make it right, I know.
Sorry, I do and no I wouldn't. I would have raised hell with him and her. There wasn't a double standard. Both my daughter and son where held to the same standards. What they really did in the long run is only known to them.
We are talking about them banging, not just dating.
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And as I am reading the story the boy was 15 or 16 at the time she was his teacher, and the parents were claiming he was 17 and being uncooperative.
According to the story, both he and his parents were being uncooperative with the investigation because they were on her side, too. By the time all this came out, he was 18, graduated, and still with her.
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All of this is why I don't have a problem with it.
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A male teacher would be behind bars if it were a 17 year old girl.
There's a double-standard... that's just how it is.
If I was 17 and a former NFL cheerleader offered me the goods, I would have wrecked that like a port-o-potty in a hurricane.
On the other hand, if my daughter was 17 and some dude teacher was trying to hit on her, I would be furious.
EDIT: for the record, my first long-term relationship (2.5 years) was with a woman who was 34 years old... I was 19. And yes, I violated that repeatedly, two... maybe three times a day for almost 2.5 years. But I was also a pansy, and she basically ruled me until I finally got the guts to break up with her. But man, she was hot, athletic, and had gigantic breasts...
The scary thing is though... that I'm now the same age as she was when I had first started dating her.
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I don't know what the age of consent is, in different states it's a different age. I believe when I lived in Louisiana it was 15.
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Ill take your word for it that it was 15, tho i have never heard below 16 personally. If it was 15 where they lived, then ill redact my statement about legal repercussions and stick with just being ' uncool due to her position '.
Oh, and while i wont condemn what they did, i do think she should have stepped down as a teacher at that school. Id say the same if a 'manager' of a company started seeing a subordinate. Someone needs to transfer.
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Ill take your word for it that it was 15, tho i have never heard below 16 personally. If it was 15 where they lived, then ill redact my statement about legal repercussions and stick with just being ' uncool due to her position '.
Well, I never said a rant, but I have seen you turn something that had nothing to do with politics into insinuating Obama's to blame. Like (these examples are not nesisarily you, but it is an example):
"I just retiled my bathroom!" "Obama said you didn't build that!" ~or~ "I Need to find a better job. Any ideas?" "Yea, don't vote for Obama!"
As a joke? Yeah, that is how it was presented. It may even have had a .
Just sayin'.
Yep, those would be the "jokes" I mentioned
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When i was talking consent i wasn't including 'age gap' type consent between 2 clearly young kids, since she was clearly out of that range. Ill will take note of the 15 for next time it comes up tho
According to the story the Boy was around 15, and the teacher around 25 when this all started. Since girls mature (mentally) years before boys I don't think there is a difference her
Brad
I must be reading a different story then you?
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Jones, who taught at Dixie Heights High School before resigning in November, said the relationship began in February 2011 when the boy was 17.
You are right, rulz is rulz for a reason. Yes, it's a double-standard, but I am also aware that he may have gotten special treatment during grading. And that really tics me off.
I struggled for my D's. While he was motorboating his!
My first was my friends 20-years-my-senior mother, lasted for 10 years, and was the best thing that ever happened to me. But rulz is rulz.
I agree with this--law, is law. in for a penny, yur in for a pound and the penalty should be the same. Good for the goose-good for the gander and vice versa.
When i was talking consent i wasn't including 'age gap' type consent between 2 clearly young kids, since she was clearly out of that range. Ill will take note of the 15 for next time it comes up tho
Looks like the 15 thing is no longer the case in any state. Assuming the wiki article is accurate. The other article had a copyright of 1999 on the bottom of the page, so I assume it is dated information. None of it applies to me, as I have no interest in extremely young girls.
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[QUOTE]Jones, who taught at Dixie Heights High School before resigning in November, said the relationship began in February 2011 when the boy was 17.
Right, they admitted to 17, which was "legal", it's the before the family wouldn't cooperate on.
Reading the story,
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The teen had been in Jones' freshman English class in 2008, and she was his peer tutor in 2010 and 2011 before he graduated at the age of 17 this year, according to Monday's plea agreement, signed by Jones.
She admitted to having sexual relations with the 17 year old, which apparently while being morally wrong, wasn't legally wrong. The case seems to be because she was involved when he was younger, but there was no cooperation. He had graduated from High School when he was 17, so she wasn't his teacher then.
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15 is under the age of consent, so there should be legal repercussions.
why should there be legal BS
esp now 3 years later when the kid is over the age of consent
esp for a boy who has no ill effects from the relationship BOTH HE AND HIS PARENTS ARE AGAINST HER BEING CHARGED
I could see firing a teacher for breaking job rules but what does jailing her gain for anyone
BTW HERE IN FLA WE PUT KIDS IN ADULT PRISON AT 12-13 BUT THEY HAVE NO ADULT RIGHTS UNTIL 18
I think there should be one age nationally to vote drink have sex sign a legal contract or be jailed as a adult not a different age in each case/state/category and never ever jail or put a kid in prison
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I think the age thing is the reason this was tried in Ky rather than Ohio. In Ohio the legal age of concent is 16. If the 16 year old concents, the parents or state have absolutely no say in charging the adult. Thats straight from my lawyer who is a County District Attorney.
Looks like the 15 thing is no longer the case in any state. Assuming the wiki article is accurate. The other article had a copyright of 1999 on the bottom of the page, so I assume it is dated information. None of it applies to me, as I have no interest in extremely young girls.
Which makes sense as it was 99 when I was living in New Orleans and someone told me that.
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so - um - why does there need to be a law about this?
even since day 1 with G.Washington, 14 was "the age". can you imagine what was going on back then - that 14 was the cut-off?!?!
Because people are stupid and limits must be placed on many of them.
As far as in "Washington's time" keep in mind that the average age span of a person was easily 1/2 what it was today, and young people grew up faster. Different world than it is now.
The teen had been in Jones' freshman English class in 2008, and she was his peer tutor in 2010 and 2011 before he graduated at the age of 17 this year, according to Monday's plea agreement, signed by Jones.
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She admitted to having sexual relations with the 17 year old, which apparently while being morally wrong, wasn't legally wrong. The case seems to be because she was involved when he was younger, but there was no cooperation. He had graduated from High School when he was 17, so she wasn't his teacher then.
Brad
That's just it. Your reading your opinion into this. There is nothing in the story saying any sexual relations took place while he was 15. There are admitted sexual relations when he was 17, which with it being the age he graduated at, he must have been in school during. I was 17 my entire Senior year of highschool so I don't doubt this young mans birthday could have fallen in such a way as to make him 17 during his entire Senior year also. My birthday is in September and I turned 17 a few days before my Senior year started, however I could have turned 17 anytime during the summer recess and the results would have been the same. Yes, he was in classes with her before he turned 17. Yes she was a tutor of his before he turned 17. However, there is nothing stating anything happened before he turned 17 and that little blurb you posted in no way states that. I do agree, it wasn't right, but I can't except it was happening when he was 15 without proof (I can suspect, but without proof it's just that, a suspicion).
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