quote Originally posted by FriendGregory: I would have told them, go away fashion police. I can wear 4 stars on my shoulders and if I did not earn them, it is jewelry and unless I am on a military base, it is nobodies business but my own. I wear BDU, surplus military issue primarily for gardening and so long as a place does not have a dress code, I will wear them into a bar. 87antuzzi, not all bars are "dress up bars".

FYI.

quote 10 USC, Subtitle A, Part II, Chapter 45, Sections 771 and 772 Section 771 states: Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may wear - (1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or (2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps Section 772 lists some exceptions: (a) A member of the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard may wear the uniform prescribed for the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard, as the case may be. (b) A member of the Naval Militia may wear the uniform prescribed for the Naval Militia. (c) A retired officer of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the title and wear the uniform of his retired grade. (d) A person who is discharged honorably or under honorable conditions from the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may wear his uniform while going from the place of discharge to his home, within three months after his discharge. (e) A person not on active duty who served honorably in time of war in the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the title, and, when authorized by regulations prescribed by the President, wear the uniform, of the highest grade held by him during that war. (f) While portraying a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, an actor in a theatrical or motion-picture production may wear the uniform of that armed force if the portrayal does not tend to discredit that armed force. (g) An officer or resident of a veterans' home administered by the Department of Veterans Affairs may wear such uniform as the Secretary of the military department concerned may prescribe. (h) While attending a course of military instruction conducted by the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, a civilian may wear the uniform prescribed by that armed force if the wear of such uniform is specifically authorized under regulations prescribed by the Secretary of the military department concerned. (i) Under such regulations as the Secretary of the Air Force may prescribe, a citizen of a foreign country who graduates from an Air Force school may wear the appropriate aviation badges of the Air Force. (j) A person in any of the following categories may wear the uniform prescribed for that category: (1) Members of the Boy Scouts of America. (2) Members of any other organization designated by the Secretary of a military department

You'd probably have to act quite the fool for anyone to charge you under these statutes, but they can.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: You'd probably have to act quite the fool for anyone to charge you under these statutes, but they can.

I wonder how this would apply to outdated uniforms. I have a WWII dress uniform I am going to be using for a themed photo shoot. I don't intended on walking around in it. But if its an obsolete uniform is it still against the law?

Some military personnel wear their uniform off post. Cool, but some of these service members may be AWOL or they are really ate up. Those Marines probably thought you were in the service maybe.
In the Army, you are not supposed to wear the uniform out in a bar, unless you are attending a military ball.
You would be surprised the amount of scum that enters the Army only to disregard their loyalty and service in their contract.
If you are a civilian they should leave you alone. If I were you, I would tell a military member that you are a civilian. That should avoid fights and arguments.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: You'd probably have to act quite the fool for anyone to charge you under these statutes, but they can.

I wonder how stores such as Wal-Mart and Surplus stores get away with legally selling military stuff then.

Brad

quote Originally posted by ghost187x: Some military personnel wear their uniform off post. Cool, but some of these service members may be AWOL or they are really ate up. Those Marines probably thought you were in the service maybe. In the Army, you are not supposed to wear the uniform out in a bar, unless you are attending a military ball. You would be surprised the amount of scum that enters the Army only to disregard their loyalty and service in their contract. If you are a civilian they should leave you alone. If I were you, I would tell a military member that you are a civilian. That should avoid fights and arguments.

I did do so, I told them I wasnt in the millitary. and they told me I shouldnt be wearing the camo that marines wear simply because I didnt earn the right to, and because it causes "confusion" to the "civilian" people.

to me, wearing any dress uniform the millitary uses would be impersonation, but not the camo. and even if its surplus, if its illeagal to wear out then the govt should pass a law against it. they just passed a law against wearing millitary clothing, and then claiming to be in the millitary or part of it when in all reality they werent.

and also, nothing fits me better than a us government issue millitary uniform made in the united states of america. even if its surplus or pre owned, I will never claim to be in the millitary nor will I accept a thanks, and will set things straight.

when the time comes for real war, I will be there ready and willing to enlist and serve and to do my duty. < this esprit de corps comes from my marine dad, thank him for raising me the right way. the way most young people arent raised. I am not ignorant like most of the youth.

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quote Originally posted by maryjane: Excellent advice, and I highly recommend following it should similar circumstances arise again.

Excellent advice indeed.

Ed

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Ever wear one with a club's colors?

Well, Yeh....but that was only after a drunken binge and a couple club members thought it would be a good idea to toss it on me.....mind ya, the older sister of the member in question had a lot to do with THAT...

,,There is nothing wrong with wearing civilian clothing with military crest,emblems,ect.
the answers to this post would have been different 1 year after 9/11 ,but people forget!
its a joke right ??who cares
I have live thru the time when American spit on the uniform,spit on the military men,spit on the flag
show respect for our uniform .when you feel spitefull to the uniform or flag imagine 10 marines are standing there.
..I served in a foreign Military,if they catch you wearin their stuff ,,even the wheel chair cripples will assault you,, they do not even like the civilian logo stuff,LIABLE TO TEAR IT OFF YOU
..The latest crap is wearing navy seal stuff because they are the bad guys..
,,I fully understand I am more hardcorps than many veterans on this forum,my list of friends lost is long..In my time, there were men in the Marines & there were men who were Marine,,.all were Marines,,never shame them.
Marine boot camp is not navy SEAL,.UDT ,BUD/S selection ,but it is tough & you earn the right to wear the Emblem

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: FYI

Oh! I really had no idea. Then the old stuff should be burnt when it not considered serviceable. My first pair were tiger strips that were handed down by a guy I worked with in construction. He said he would never wear them again anyway. He also said that they fit me well, and I took it to mean other than size. He refused too discuss his time in the military time other than to say that he was in Vietnam. They were depatched...as I do with any clothes that denote you as a member of heir club. (Do not like the pissing contest between gangs and the like.)

I would never claim or accept benefits of those "allowed to" or required to serve. I was refused service because of childhood asthma.

I remember in the 70s, and 80s fashion clothing that had stripes, stars or bars(my sister had some of this).

quote Topic: So I got yelled at my some drunk marines

OK, so some Marines in a bar gave you some lip.

BFD?

They probably just decided they didn't like you, for whatever reason. It happens. No big deal.

quote Originally posted by Blacktree: OK, so some Marines in a bar gave you some lip. BFD? They probably just decided they didn't like you, for whatever reason. It happens. No big deal.

lol its because the pants I was wearing were thier "colors".

quote Originally posted by DeLorean00: I wonder how this would apply to outdated uniforms. I have a WWII dress uniform I am going to be using for a themed photo shoot. I don't intended on walking around in it. But if its an obsolete uniform is it still against the law?

It doesn't. Military uniforms no longer current are civilian clothing.

quote Originally posted by Blacktree: OK, so some Marines in a bar gave you some lip. BFD?

I think the fact that this was brought up in a thread has led to some interesting discussion. I've noticed when traveling down in the States that people (men, and to a lesser degree women) often seem to wear items of military dress while doing "civilian" activities. I've wondered myself what the "rules" are regarding this use of military type clothing. It seems to me that even among the military guys here that there isn't complete agreement on this issue. Good discussion IMO.

I am pretty sure that most here would agree as long as someone isnt wearing a millitary uniform and saying they are in the millitary when theyre not then it would be acceptable to sport it.

although most people may get confused if your wearing a complete camo uniform.

And this is my opinion, but if anyone wears out a millitary dress uniform then I would think they are definately in the millitary or are impersonating... something that i;ll never do.

random - at Ravens games people wear this purple BDU style camo...it's terrible.

quote Originally posted by Black88GT: random - at Ravens games people wear this purple BDU style camo...it's terrible.

let me guess, its black, white, grey, and purple all over? lol.

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quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: No, I just dont like wearing camo and think it looks white trashy in my opinion. And no, I have never been to a gay bar and never will. Now dont you old folks have a early bird special at Golden Corral to attend to??

It would appear that I struck a nerve.

Again there is nothing wrong with wearing camoflage trousers,,,just be carefull where you wear actuall military issue shirts that have USMC on them most of the other service are not that particular


..As a side note ,if you read Richard Marcinko book ""The Real Team"",, a book about the actuall navy seals his many books are based on,the Top of the top,almost half the men were former Marines,,Marcinko is a former Marine,,most of you would not disparage or wear the uniform of these navy seals
..show respect for the actuall uniforms
I quit this forum for a brief time,,I joined a military forum & bitched about stuff like what is in this post..they shame me to come back & keep the record clean from the hard corp point of view,,I expect doubts and hate..I am tougher than most and no computer jibe will ever hurt me,,I lived with a devil worshipping she devil shrew who could bench press 200 pounds & who loved to fight,,she also love to knit!! If I liked Lacy frilly panties better I would still be with her,..Great for the bedroom ,but not for every day wear..
I have been banned from the Leatherneck site,, pansies think standards should be lowered

next time you get into a confrontation, tell them (marines, or whoever) you guys fight for my freedom to wear stuff like this (camo pants).
No service-member should use their branch as some type of an authority level and act unprofessional towards a civilian, especially under the influence of alcohol. Chastising an innocent civilian for wearing certain clothes is a ludicrous act, and I would smoke my soldiers if they did something similar. In my opinion, it sounds like they didn't represent the Marine Corps very well. Just like the Air Force casket photo. It was in bad taste, and it looks unprofessional.
However, there are 2 sides to a story and i do not know their story. For all we know, you may have been a smartass or something

You should start going out wearing a replica Medal of Honor. Just make sure if anyone asks you about it you tell them you're a fraud so there is no confusion. Wouldn't want anyone thinking you had earned it. Also, next time Marines give you **** , tell them "Marines are pussies and they hate America". That should clear things up nicely. Follow these steps and you shouldn't run into anymore hiccups to whine about.

Wearing just camo pants to a bar... nah, I wouldn't give you any lip. (I'd be thinking to myself that you looked like an idiot.) You won't see me wear scrubs out and about. Or a Best Buy polo shirt out or a set of AAMCO coveralls out and about.

But, I'm trying to remember.... Do the USMC pants have the USMC logo imprinted anywhere on the camo pants? If so, there's your problem.

If you walked into a bar with even old BDUs or a coat with "U.S. Army" and name tags and/or a unit patch. Yeah, you'd piss me off. You earned none of that. And if you did earn it you should know better than to wear that stuff mixed with civilian attire or to a place that would not look favorably to the service.

Even in recent years, after getting home from work, I may not shed all of my uniform off for the night as I figured I'd be home all night. If I realized I had to run to the grocery store or to pick up a pizza, the entire uniform would be put on and worn properly.

Do I still wear any BDU/DCU or ACU pants or coats/jackets? Yeah. Around the house, do yardwork or even going hunting. But it is completely stripped of any military resemblance. My BDU/DCU/ACU tops will not be worn again.

Next time wear regular pants.

..Marines have more pride than any other service ,just think about the number of USMC stickers you see on cars there are more Marine stickers than all other service put together,unless you live near a base.
There is nothing wrong wih wearing BDU trousers,even shirts a long as the shirt does no have USMC on it.
It means nothing to most reading this,you wear a USMC uniforms at your peril,,95% of the time you will easily get away with it.. the loud mouth on the floor could be you.
Rangers Seals Delta,Special forces have a real pride ,the average army,navy,air force does not understand this,, this is amplified in the Marines,it is taught in boot camp & reinforced in the fleet Marine force,,I served in a time when pride was instilled by an NCO,s fist,, every day of my life I am a Marine,many do not understand this..My favorite rock song in the Marine Corp hymn.
..No one gives a crap if you wear camoflage BDU trousers or shirt.. only those who earn the eagle globe & anchor or the other spec op service should wear there logo,s. do not marginalize our Marines,,Ive gotten older & may do nothing,then again??I am so soft,caring ,sweet,tender & gentle now,but Im also a fiesty old curmugeon,full of a bitter killing rage the democrats taught me !!

eat the apple & screw the corp.a popuar grunt chant & saying

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"There is nothing wrong with wearing BDU trousers,even shirts a long as the shirt does no have USMC on it."

Or any logo.

Thanks, I think the most of us will follow this advice.

quote Originally posted by FriendGregory: "There is nothing wrong with wearing BDU trousers,even shirts a long as the shirt does no have USMC on it." Or any logo. Thanks, I think the most of us will follow this advice.

I seem to remember the recruiters handing out the olive drab T-Shirts with "ARMY" "AIRFORCE" ( I think those were gray) and "MARINES" on them when I was in high school.

Brad

T-shirts aren't a uniform.

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this is the problem, I was wearing genuine govt issue pants, but the logos are as small as the digital dots so you cant tell. and I wont buy a duplicate made in china, so I am stuck with surplus

So I got yelled at my some drunk marines.
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quote Originally posted by Formula88: T-shirts aren't a uniform.

While it's nice to just argue to argue, I was commenting on Stan's comment about wearing shirts that say USMC on them.

I have nothing but respect for people that have served, IN ALL BRANCHES, but if any one of them wants to fight a civilian for using the same freedoms they fought to give us.... Something is wrong there. Of course this would be assuming that they fought for us to actually be free, and not this pseudo freedom we ended up with.

Brad

I agree wearing BDUs look white trashy but it's not like you're trying to impersonate a military member. They are comfortable and on very few occasions I've worn them when not on duty.
The Marines should have kept their mouths shut. Despite current overseas affairs they are not police, especially fashion.

You were wearing pants and just pants, now if you were wearing the entier USMC uniform(patchs, rank and name tap) than you have a problem


SSG Breckenridge

US Army

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..No one cares what you wear do not wear issue uniforms with the USMC or
eagle globe & anchor on it'
Every Marine is the fashion police for disrepect,, the rules for fighting are stringent,, you can be easily discharged for bar room fighting in uniform or civilian dress,now,
..The danger comes form former Marines,it is a random thing so many could give a crap,I have only hit one man for claimining he was a Marine,, there was a lot of this from men who refused to serve in the vietnam war then had regrets,in the 70s & 80s, They were always Special Forces or Marines ,,no one knew who the Seals were in those days,, I had train Seals at the infantry school combat town & I was barely aware of them...Talk big here ,but be carefull..show respect I hate the posers,the liars.the wanta be..Most people do not care if you wear army, airforce or navy full regalia,,do not wear USMC uniforms
Im 70 years old porker sloppy fat crippled & senile, maybe you should come to Daytona and wear a USMC shirt?? we could talk,,however I was formed from steel on the hot anvil of P.I. discipline, & fear no loud mouth internet keyboard punks..

NOW,,I just seek a meaningful overnite relationship

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I have a full set of old Army fatigues. I will wear them wherever i please. Usually ends up being camping/[paintball/air soft, but they are mine and i will do what I want. Sorry if it gets peoples panties in a wad.

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I LOLed, thanks!