1> not sure what this means 2> no - and I do agree there needs some fixin there as well. but - in the scale of the monies collected in taxes - this is a miniscule # 3> look at any US Gment budget 4> call it what you want. but the cry babies have apparantly forgotten what g'ment actually provides, and how screwed they'd be without it.
It means the rich pay 50% and poor pay 0%. Just like you say you want it. But wait, it's not enough...but yet the rich are the crybabies? Not the OWS crowd who's whole platform is "give us more cause life's not fair"?
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Pyrthian Member
Posts: 29569 From: Detroit, MI Registered: Jul 2002
Originally posted by Gtdhw: It means the rich pay 50% and poor pay 0%. Just like you say you want it. But wait, it's not enough...but yet the rich are the crybabies? Not the OWS crowd who's whole platform is "give us more cause life's not fair"?
well, I cant speak for the OWS, and, I expect you cannot either.
so - yes - they are cry babies. look at how they are pouting & stomping their little baby feets because Obama wont give them presents like baby bush did.
anyone of them people you are sucking up to could go to many places which dont have these intensely oppresive tax structures. yet - any guesses as to why they do not? perhaps you should figure this out before you continue with your pandering to your lords. you are being heavily BS'd. why is it that these "oppressed rich folk" are not speaking for themselves? or going to places better suited? they most obviously have the means. because they are doing just fine as is. in fact, they are doing great. better than ever. EVER. and fools like you are crying to save them? is this some form of crazed worship? idolatry? because it is funny that it is NOT "the rich" doing the crying - is it?
The rich (1%) pay 50% of all the taxes in this country, how/why do you consider that "exempt"? The lower 47% pay no taxes, how is that "bearing the burden" of anything but a free ride on the backs of the rich? Then these same people complain that 50% isn't enough of the riches "fair share"? Really? I do agree, however, that something is very, very wrong when things are this "disproportionate". Which is going to help fix our problems faster, the top 1% paying even more than 50%, or the lower 47% paying something/anything into the system? You know, their "fair share"?
The lower 47% pay NO taxes? Please provide proof.
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carnut122 Member
Posts: 9122 From: Waleska, GA, USA Registered: Jan 2004
The last time I read, GE and Exxon were including their employees payroll taxes as taxes the corporations paid (it makes me wonder how prevalent that is). When you do that, I guess in fact the employees are not paying anything from their checks. However, the last I saw, ALL people pay taxes at the cash register when buying food and other items, or is that being claimed as taxes Walmart, Publix, etc is paying for us?. In that case Windstrream is paying a lot of taxes for me because every time I pay my bill, it has about $10 extra dollars worth of taxes on it-Thank you Windstream! Now about my license plates, my property taxes, ...I guess the local government is paying those for me? I just can't figure out why they take it out of my account. Nobody escapes death and taxes.
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carnut122 Member
Posts: 9122 From: Waleska, GA, USA Registered: Jan 2004
it is actually very simple: the more you have - the more you need the g'ment to keep what you have. and - the more you have used the system in place to get where you are. go to Somolia if you need examples of how/why. try getting anywhere with no backing of contracts. no enforcement of ownership. no system to handle disagreements. WTF does a "poor" person need with ANY of this? the majority of Tax Dollars go to defend rich peoples wealth & property. they would have no success without the g'ment. NONE. they would be quickly stripped & picked clean. Like a bunch spoiled babies who dont know what Daddy actually provides for them.
I would expect most "poor people" have NO actual "positive" assetts to defend, and all "claims" are against them, and not for them. most would LOVE to see enforcement of contracts (like mortgages) become worthless papers.
So - yes - the more you have - the more you have used the g'ment, and the more you need the g'ment.
well, I cant speak for the OWS, and, I expect you cannot either.
so - yes - they are cry babies. look at how they are pouting & stomping their little baby feets because Obama wont give them presents like baby bush did.
anyone of them people you are sucking up to could go to many places which dont have these intensely oppresive tax structures. yet - any guesses as to why they do not? perhaps you should figure this out before you continue with your pandering to your lords. you are being heavily BS'd. why is it that these "oppressed rich folk" are not speaking for themselves? or going to places better suited? they most obviously have the means. because they are doing just fine as is. in fact, they are doing great. better than ever. EVER. and fools like you are crying to save them? is this some form of crazed worship? idolatry? because it is funny that it is NOT "the rich" doing the crying - is it?
"anyone of them OWS'ers could go to many places which dont have these intensely oppresive tax structures. yet - any guesses as to why they do not?
No. They have to WORK to be an employee, which means they EARN their paycheck (and pay taxes on wages earned). When a gov. employee buys something at a register, they pay the taxes with money they earned from their paycheck therefor putting money from the private sector into the tax system. Not the case with EBT.
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Just like the majority of the nation that didn't vote for Obama has been saying since '08. But we are lying racist.
Welcome to the club.
Interesting, you registered less than a month ago yet you fit right in to the fringe right here. I'm betting you're just another throwaway handle for an existing member.
I thought Cliffie poo had a rule against that here?
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Dec 3rd, 2011
dratts Member
Posts: 8373 From: Coeur d' alene Idaho USA Registered: Apr 2001
Cain is supposed to make some kind of announcement tomorrow. I suppose he is stepping down, maybe because of his wife. He said if she wants him to, he will drop out of the race. She has veto power. Of course, that can all be overturned by a 2/3rds majority of his mistresses.
Interesting, you registered less than a month ago yet you fit right in to the fringe right here. I'm betting you're just another throwaway handle for an existing member.
I thought Cliffie poo had a rule against that here?
Nope. Just traded my '92 Sonoma GT for an '88 Fiero GT a few weeks ago. FIrst time Fiero owner and after a little googling, this was the place to be for info.
Interesting, you registered less than a month ago yet you fit right in to the fringe right here. I'm betting you're just another throwaway handle for an existing member.
I thought Cliffie poo had a rule against that here?
Man, just because you don't like a guy doesn't make him evil.
Brad
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Wichita Member
Posts: 20709 From: Wichita, Kansas Registered: Jun 2002
No. They have to WORK to be an employee, which means they EARN their paycheck (and pay taxes on wages earned). When a gov. employee buys something at a register, they pay the taxes with money they earned from their paycheck therefor putting money from the private sector into the tax system. Not the case with EBT.
What part of Government employee and putting money from the Private sector into the the Tax System makes sense to you?????
It doesn't matter if you earned a paycheck from the government or are given one. You don't add anything to the government coffers in taxes.
If you are thinking that government workers buy goods and services from the private sector and there fore the private sector will pay taxes, so does anybody using an EBT card. It's the same.
Most anybody on public assistance does work for the government in a way. Their job is to make sure they show up to the polls every election and vote Democrats in.
Ahhhhh but of course there is a difference to what you claimed isn't there? The assertion that 47% of the population pay NO taxes is something quite different. I'm glad you seem to see the distinction.
Ahhhhh but of course there is a difference to what you claimed isn't there? The assertion that 47% of the population pay NO taxes is something quite different. I'm glad you seem to see the distinction.
You see the distinction as well and are ok with it? Yet still chant that the rich don't pay their fair share?
What part of Government employee and putting money from the Private sector into the the Tax System makes sense to you?????
It doesn't matter if you earned a paycheck from the government or are given one. You don't add anything to the government coffers in taxes.
If you are thinking that government workers buy goods and services from the private sector and there fore the private sector will pay taxes, so does anybody using an EBT card. It's the same.
Most anybody on public assistance does work for the government in a way. Their job is to make sure they show up to the polls every election and vote Democrats in.
It's not the same, and it's really simple to understand. Since you have no inclination to understand, we will just have to agree to disagree. I do agree 100% with your last statement though, and that is a sad, sad, state of the times and it shows the mentality that is taking this country straight down the tubes.
What part of Government employee and putting money from the Private sector into the the Tax System makes sense to you????? 
