The 'exploding' Glock on your computer is a set up. First thing I see is there is no clip/magazine in it.... If it did really fall apart on you, it was because you were just stuffing the bullets in the handle....lol

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quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: The 'exploding' Glock on your computer is a set up. First thing I see is there is no clip/magazine in it.... If it did really fall apart on you, it was because you were just stuffing the bullets in the handle....lol

Maybe they loaded like this one.. Check the rounds in the mag.

quote Originally posted by blakeinspace: remember when they banned the production of the more than 10 round bullet holder thingies?... I had to pay some big bucks for 17round bullet holder thingie for my CZ-75 boomstick thingie...

Yep I've got "bullet holder thingies" that say on them "For Law Enforcement Use Only"

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: my mother in law... Asked me to go shoot the gun to insure it worked correctly being she was using it for home defense. Went thru a half a box of shells firing singles, double taps and then went into rapid fire...About the 7th round into the rapid fire the gun locked up....

I would guess I am in the same boat as her, and maybe many other people. It sounds like she didn't really have any intention of being a person that goes to the range a lot. Just enough so that she knows what she is doing if someone invaded her home.

And if you don't plan to shoot it much, you would rather have $150 sitting at home somewhere, than a $500 or $600 gun somewhere that is essentially insurance and never really gets shot.


So I see the attraction for a $150 gun. On the other hand, if it IS 'insurance', then you want to make sure it really works on that one time when you really need it to work.


I am not and have not been a gun owner, so all I know about guns is from reading in anticipation of ultimately getting a gun for home defense. From reading, I thought it wasn't uncommon to get jams in ANY brand of gun (some more than others) until one had put a couple hundred rounds through them. So is that not true? Was this highpoint that locked up a new one, and just not many rounds through it? Or is a "locked up" different than a failure to eject or failure to feed "jam" issue?

quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: I would guess I am in the same boat as her, and maybe many other people. It sounds like she didn't really have any intention of being a person that goes to the range a lot. Just enough so that she knows what she is doing if someone invaded her home. And if you don't plan to shoot it much, you would rather have $150 sitting at home somewhere, than a $500 or $600 gun somewhere that is essentially insurance and never really gets shot. So I see the attraction for a $150 gun. On the other hand, if it IS 'insurance', then you want to make sure it really works on that one time when you really need it to work. I am not and have not been a gun owner, so all I know about guns is from reading in anticipation of ultimately getting a gun for home defense. From reading, I thought it wasn't uncommon to get jams in ANY brand of gun (some more than others) until one had put a couple hundred rounds through them. So is that not true? Was this highpoint that locked up a new one, and just not many rounds through it? Or is a "locked up" different than a failure to eject or failure to feed "jam" issue?

Gun for home defense, Maverick 88 pump $189 bucks at walmart. You can't top a shotgun for home defense.

It really only needs to shoot once or twice...

You can always use Ninja Throwing Stars.

quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: I would guess I am in the same boat as her, and maybe many other people. It sounds like she didn't really have any intention of being a person that goes to the range a lot. Just enough so that she knows what she is doing if someone invaded her home. And if you don't plan to shoot it much, you would rather have $150 sitting at home somewhere, than a $500 or $600 gun somewhere that is essentially insurance and never really gets shot. So I see the attraction for a $150 gun. On the other hand, if it IS 'insurance', then you want to make sure it really works on that one time when you really need it to work. I am not and have not been a gun owner, so all I know about guns is from reading in anticipation of ultimately getting a gun for home defense. From reading, I thought it wasn't uncommon to get jams in ANY brand of gun (some more than others) until one had put a couple hundred rounds through them. So is that not true? Was this highpoint that locked up a new one, and just not many rounds through it? Or is a "locked up" different than a failure to eject or failure to feed "jam" issue?

The problem he had is that the gun just plain broke. The slide locked in the rear ward position and wouldn't move. In his case I don't blame his attitude if it's the only Hi-Point that he's ever encountered. (LOL I had a Pinto once that kindo soured me on Fords).

For all new guns I recommend a break in of anywhere from 200 to 500 rounds through it before I consider it reliable for carry or home defense use. This is especially true for semi automatics. A few of them are finicky about what brand and weight of ammo they will operate with.

For a inexperienced occasional shooter I highly recommend a double action revolver in 38 spl cal or better with a 3 - 4 inch barrel. No feed or ejection jams. No external safety switches to fool with. No detachable magazines to fall out. Can be kept in a small hand print lock safe where access is instantaneous to the authorized users. Then each member of the family that could handle it needs BASIC HANDLING SAFETY, loading, and firing training. It should be repeated on a periodic basis just to stay familiar and safe.

quote Originally posted by NickD3.4: I expect a weapon to work on the street in adverse conditions. I feel seeing their performance on the street is a true reflection of the weapons performance. In a real world setting, what good is a weapon that only works when pampered at the range? Does a Glock or AK have such issues when kicked around? ...nope. Glock, Baretta, Colt, Sig, Springfield, etc. are combat proven systems. Hi-points on the other hand are proven cheap and that's not saying much.

I didn't mean it has to be pampered to work, just that it is in an unknown state.

And i also don't mean to imply they are not cheap... They are. I just feel that that they get a worse rap than they deserve. ( disclaimer, i carry a Glock, and wont touch a AR15 due to all its parts and need to be clean or it doesn't work. AK47 for me )

I've put 600 or so rounds through my C-9 9mm hi point.. it does it's job. I've gotten very accurate with it.

Not the best gun, definitely not the worst..

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quote Originally posted by dennis_6: Gun for home defense, Maverick 88 pump $189 bucks at walmart. You can't top a shotgun for home defense.

WORD....Best bang for the buck for home defense.......

quote Originally posted by Wichita: You can always use Ninja Throwing Stars.

By the time I got the black clothes, hood, and mask on, and started throwing, I'm afraid it would be too late. I'm kind of a slow dresser.

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: WORD....Best bang for the buck for home defense.......

That is you are able to handle a shotgun. Not all people are able to do it physically. Its also hard to keep it on your dresser for emergencies.

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: WORD....Best bang for the buck for home defense.......

I wanted to buy one of these but they're never available in my areas Walmarts if I check the online stores for stock.

quote Originally posted by Alibi: I'd rather have a Hi-Point than nothing.

This is true. At least you can throw something at them when they rush you.

Kevin

quote Originally posted by User00013170: That is you are able to handle a shotgun. Not all people are able to do it physically. Its also hard to keep it on your dresser for emergencies.

20 gauge, 16 gauge, .410, and pistol or folding stock options. Still not as handy as a snub nose, but I much rather reach for a shotgun than any pistol, when something goes bump in the night. $189 +200 tax stamp and you have a nice handy Short barrel shotgun.

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: OMG IT EXPLODED ALL OVER MY LAPTOP!!!!

That's kind of funny and sad at the same time. It did crack me up a little though!

Kevin

Heard their service is quick and no questions asked. I live maybe 20 miles from them and I wouldn't touch one ever. They are junk guns....Yes i have handled one. With so many mil-surp rifles and pistols out there under $200 i have no idea why people bother with them.

Milsurp pistols don't usually shoot easy-to-find-at-your-local-gun-store's-ammo either.

Taking the 995 into the dealer today.

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: Taking the 995 into the dealer today.

I would call them, they used to accept repairs direct. You might even be able to get a firing pin sent for nothing..

Took it in and they shipped it out. It is going to cost me NOTHING....Not even the cost of shipping.