Well, I bought a 995 carbine from the gun store for 125 bucks. I stripped it down because the action felt like crap. On inspection the thing is beyond dirty (no big deal) but the firing pin is bent. So im going to send it back to Hi Point and have them go through it and fix it up. Im wondering if anyone here has sent one in. Im wondering what the turn around times are and how you shipped it.
Thanks.

Never have had to send anything back, but anytime ive called them for questions, or ordering parts they have been responsive ( but to be honest, its been 15 years ... )

EDIT: not surprised its filthy. they are a total bear to clean.. so most people dont

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quote Originally posted by User00013170: Never have had to send anything back, but anytime ive called them for questions, or ordering parts they have been responsive ( but to be honest, its been 15 years ... ) EDIT: not surprised its filthy. they are a total bear to clean.. so most people dont

X2, especially on the cleaning. I took mine down and cleaned it entirely when I first bought it. And I mean stripped and cleaned entirely (removed top cover, stock,compensator/front sight assembly, etc) and used about a half a jar of Hoppes No. 9 and half a bag of cleaning cloths the first go. Ran a grand total of 15 rounds through it the first time, stripped it down again for cleaning. The patches came out black as tar, even after 15 rounds. You will never get the 995 completely clean (far short of leaving it sit on the shelf unused after buying one) due to the fact that its a blowback weapon and requires the exhaust gases (for lack of better terms) to be recycled so it can operate the action. Part of the issue is that you cannot remove the barrel for cleaning, unlike most guns (con of the blowback design, its a fixed barrel).

Kris, give them a call. Its usually pretty simple. Tear it down, box it up, and ship it priority WITH tracking AND insurance. Do not skimp on the shipping costs. When they ask you to declare if there are any flammables, weapons, etc, tell them no. You are shipping a box of gun PARTS, not a gun itself (loophole in their rules )

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HighPoint is a POS........

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: HighPoint is a POS........

2nd on that.

But it is a gun. You can still cap somebody with it.

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: HighPoint is a POS........

I'm certain this isn't the point of Kris' thread... And I would disagree with you. Just because the price tag on the gun doesn't match the price tag of a more expensive, similar type of gun (for example, a 995 carbine vs. a Beretta Storm) doesn't make it junk. And unless you've owned one, I'd say you have no room to talk here. The whole idea behind Hi Point is to provide reliable guns to people who cannot afford to spend $1000+ on a "name brand" gun. And for as cheap as they are, they are quite accurate.

Sure, they are cheap guns, but they are reliable, and go bang every time. One doesn't have to spend thousands of dollars to have a reliable gun. And in this case, its entirely US made, of US parts, and has a lifetime, no questions asked warranty that transfers to every new owner, regardless if you are the first or the 15th, etc owner of the particular Hi Point in question. How many other companies can you name off the top of your head that are entirely US made, from US parts, that offer this good of a warranty? None. Junk, eh? Sure, other companies offer lifetime warranties, but none of them are transferable to new owners, and I guarantee that none of them are entirely US made... Look at Taurus, for example. Sure, they have the lifetime warranty, but it only applies if you are the original owner. And they are made in Brazil. And that's just one example.

Point is, you buy what you can afford and what suits you best, not what someone else says is "junk" or "good". You make your own decisions about something and form your own opinions based on personal experience. What you may see as junk (without actually having any experience with, because you form your opinion based on the price tag associated with the item), 3 million others may beg to differ, after personal experience with said item.

Edit: So long post short: Hi Point's are dirt cheap and affordable for everyone, are reliable and go bang every time, and are quite surprisingly accurate. Yet they are still junk? GTFO with that crap

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It does not have the high price tag on it so its crap?....I paid 125 bucks with a scope for a 9mm carbine that's rock solid. Its ugly as hell but its a gun I really dont care about. I will keep it clean but if it was dropped or stolen I would not care. They go bang every time and if the and if it breaks Hi Point has a warranty that is the best in the industry. So if its as big of POS as you say I should start selling Hi Point mag's because I will have so many from sending it in and getting the free mag's . Im just going to take it to the FFL/Dealer tomorrow and talk to him and get it shipped off.

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: It does not have the high price tag on it so its crap?....I paid 125 bucks with a scope for a 9mm carbine that's rock solid. Its ugly as hell but its a gun I really dont care about. I will keep it clean but if it was dropped or stolen I would not care. They go bang every time and if the and if it breaks Hi Point has a warranty that is the best in the industry. So if its as big of POS as you say I should start selling Hi Point mag's because I will have so many from sending it in and getting the free mag's . Im just going to take it to the FFL/Dealer tomorrow and talk to him and get it shipped off.

Agreed Kris. I paid $180 for my 1st run (serial number was 38xxx) 995 with a BSA red dot, laser, and compensator. It was used and abused as a truck gun, and still went bang every time, and hit perfectly on the mark. Hell, I took my sister out shooting with it (complete noob, never fired a gun in her life until the 995), and in 10 rounds she nailed 4 dead center. And I turned around and sold it for exactly what I paid for it. It took any ammo I threw at it, and still went bang. Even the cheap $9 a box TulAmmo wal mart crap with steel casings fired reliably and accurately from it, and that ammo almost never fires in anything.

Hell, I liked the 995 so much I plan to pick up one of the newer models in 45ACP when the opportunity presents itself. Granted, it isn't my top priority in guns, but I wouldn't turn one away. Right now though I am working towards buying and building my AK47 kit in 7.62x39 (thinking of skipping the AK and getting a Romanian PSL or a Dragunov kit in 7.62x39 instead...same framework as the AK but geared more towards sniping)

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: HighPoint is a POS........

I've got to disagree. Yeah they are cheap, ugly, and heavy, but their reliability is amazing. The only one I've seen with a problem ended up being caused by bent mag lips.
When it came to me it hadn't been cleaned for ever and was bone dry. After I cleaned it (that's a pain) and adjusted the mag lips it has worked perfectly for a neighbor ever since.
There's a 3 or 4 part video I'll try to find showing 2 gunnies trying to blow 2 Hi Points. The extremes they had to go to succeed were ridiculous. I guarantee my Rugers or S&Ws wouldn't take the same abuse.
Now if you'd of said a Lorcin is a POS I would agree.

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: HighPoint is a POS........

Exactly like someone in the corvette forums saying a Fiero is a pos. Hi-point is no more a pos than an ak or mosin.

My dealings with a High Point 9mm that my mother in law bought. Asked me to go shoot the gun to insure it worked correctly being she was using it for home defense since her husband was being deployed. Went thru a half a box of shells firing singles, double taps and then went into rapid fire...About the 7th round into the rapid fire the gun locked up....Locked up to the point where the slide was stuck in the rear position which at that point I dropped the clip to insure the weapon was clear. Put it back in the box it came in and returned it to mother in law for her to return......This is my dealing with HighPoint which brung me to my conclusion that it is a POS......Others may have other opionion on HighPoint but above is mine.........

And where did I mention the price of a HighPoint making it a POS?

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: My dealings with a High Point 9mm that my mother in law bought. Asked me to go shoot the gun to insure it worked correctly being she was using it for home defense since her husband was being deployed. Went thru a half a box of shells firing singles, double taps and then went into rapid fire...About the 7th round into the rapid fire the gun locked up....Locked up to the point where the slide was stuck in the rear position which at that point I dropped the clip to insure the weapon was clear. Put it back in the box it came in and returned it to mother in law for her to return......This is my dealing with HighPoint which brung me to my conclusion that it is a POS......Others may have other opionion on HighPoint but above is mine......... And where did I mention the price of a HighPoint making it a POS?

Happens with Rugers, Glocks, Springfields, AK's and AR's time to time. One gun does not make a bad company.

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: My dealings with a High Point 9mm that my mother in law bought. Asked me to go shoot the gun to insure it worked correctly being she was using it for home defense since her husband was being deployed. Went thru a half a box of shells firing singles, double taps and then went into rapid fire...About the 7th round into the rapid fire the gun locked up....Locked up to the point where the slide was stuck in the rear position which at that point I dropped the clip to insure the weapon was clear. Put it back in the box it came in and returned it to mother in law for her to return......This is my dealing with HighPoint which brung me to my conclusion that it is a POS......Others may have other opionion on HighPoint but above is mine......... And where did I mention the price of a HighPoint making it a POS?

I don't have any dealings with them, but that is a pretty harsh review. Especially from a guy who doesn't even call the magazines by their proper name. At any rate, all guns are susceptible to failures as is everything in life. I don't discount your experience, but a lot of people seem to be having a great experience with the same guns.

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quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: My dealings with a High Point 9mm that my mother in law bought. Asked me to go shoot the gun to insure it worked correctly being she was using it for home defense since her husband was being deployed. Went thru a half a box of shells firing singles, double taps and then went into rapid fire...About the 7th round into the rapid fire the gun locked up....Locked up to the point where the slide was stuck in the rear position which at that point I dropped the clip to insure the weapon was clear. Put it back in the box it came in and returned it to mother in law for her to return......This is my dealing with HighPoint which brung me to my conclusion that it is a POS......Others may have other opionion on HighPoint but above is mine......... And where did I mention the price of a HighPoint making it a POS?

Kinda curious, was there a round jammed in the action? Were you able to get the slide to release? Was the magazine seated fully? A lot of missing detail.

quote Originally posted by ls3mach: I don't have any dealings with them, but that is a pretty harsh review. Especially from a guy who doesn't even call the magazines by their proper name. At any rate, all guns are susceptible to failures as is everything in life. I don't discount your experience, but a lot of people seem to be having a great experience with the same guns.

Like I said it is my opionion on Highpoint based on the one time I was asked to see what he weapon could do. The gun was brand new out of the box with less then a half a box of shells thru it when it failed. I have owned Rugers and shot Berreta the same way with no failures but not saying that they would not fail eventually. Highpoint maybe a good weapon for some but I myself would not buy one.....

I am a East Texas country boy so the proper term for the unit that holds the shells is "Clip"....This was backed up by my time in military where we also used the term "clip" magazine just doesn't sound right when I say it.....

quote Originally posted by dennis_6: Happens with Rugers, Glocks, Springfields, AK's and AR's time to time. One gun does not make a bad company. [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvvurXmAmg[YOUTUBE]

Meh there are plenty of torture test videos around
Springfield XD
Glock 21
H&K USP
Personally I wont buy Hi-Point or Taurus just from the horror stories I've heard. Had a buddy who bought a Taurus (forget the exact model) first the firing pin bent. Sent it off 6 months later he got it back, on his third mag through the gun the safety fell out. Took another 4 months to get it back the second time. Both times Taurus said it was a manufacturing defect and fixed it free but he had the gun in hand less that 2 full months for the first year he owned it. I'll stick to Springfield and H&K

Not a very good reason to say its a POS. Its a simple blowback weapon, it isn't meant for rapid fire shooting, which is most likely why it failed on you, because you abused it.

Just sayin'...

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: I am a East Texas country boy so the proper term for the unit that holds the shells is "Clip"....This was backed up by my time in military where we also used the term "clip". Magazine just doesn't sound right when I say it.....

One reads a magazine, unless it's a Playboy, Hustler, or Penthouse.

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: Edit: So long post short: Hi Point's are dirt cheap and affordable for everyone, are reliable and go bang every time, and are quite surprisingly accurate. Yet they are still junk? GTFO with that crap

Any honest person who is well educated on firearms will often tell you that hi-point is a POS. Will it shoot? yes. Does it go bang every time like you said? no. I have seen plenty dead gang bangers with a failed hi point. Like most things, you get what you pay for. Should you trust a hi-point with your life? that's up to you. The better question is why? If you need a weapon immediately for whatever reason, and are short on funds.....ok. Unless its a range toy, why would you consider rolling the dice with your life? If you are wanting a weapon for serious defense, then do your self a favor, save a little, and buy something combat proven. I have seen Hi-points fail on the street, and the result was not pretty. Why bring a pinto to formula one race?

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Ive had mine for prob 15 years. I dont just go shooting for fun, but Ive fired it occasionally and never had a problem. One time it stopped firing and on inspection, I figured out I just emptied the clip...duh. Theyre only about 60 miles from me so Id take it personally but Ive heard turn around for repairs is a week or less. I ordered extra clips for mine and got them in 2 days. Mine has a lazer sight so I cant miss.

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: Not a very good reason to say its a POS. Its a simple blowback weapon, it isn't meant for rapid fire shooting, which is most likely why it failed on you, because you abused it. Just sayin'...

Pretty good reason for me....You should be able to rapid fire an auotmatic weapon without having it fell you as rapid firing a weapon is not abuse. The Ruger I had went thru many of clips under rapid fire with no issues along with the Berreta I shot while in the military. It doesn't matter to me if anyone buys a HighPoint as that is there choice but I will simply not being my opinion is that it is a POS. I would not trust it to protect me if that is what it was needed for.....

quote Originally posted by NickD3.4: Any honest person who is well educated on firearms will often tell you that hi-point is a POS. Will it shoot? yes. Does it go bang every time like you said? no. I have seen plenty dead gang bangers with a failed hi point. Like most things, you get what you pay for. Should you trust a hi-point with your life? that's up to you. The better question is why? If you need a weapon immediately for whatever reason, and are short on funds.....ok. Unless its a range toy, why would you consider rolling the dice with your life? If you are wanting a weapon for serious defense, then do your self a favor, save a little, and buy something combat proven. I have seen Hi-points fail on the street, and the result was not pretty. Why bring a pinto to formula one race?

Since he was talking the 995, i don't think hi-point pistols on the street in unknown conditions with people of unknown skill would be a fair comparison. but that's just me.

For what its with i have put several thousand rounds thru both of mine ( i have one of their 9mm pistols with the compensator and the older style carbine ) and have not had one failure ( and i pretty much don't clean them, other than hose them down, then some compressed air and let them drip )

Cant speak for new ones but would i trust mine in a situation at home? Sure. Would i carry it? No. its too big and bulky. ( it was a cheap range toy when i couldn't afford more than one decent gun to carry, so carry was never part of my plans anyway )

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: I am a East Texas country boy so the proper term for the unit that holds the shells is "Clip"....This was backed up by my time in military where we also used the term "clip" magazine just doesn't sound right when I say it.....

A magazine is what is used to feed the weapon itself, whereas a clip is used to feed the magazine. Clips make loading of magazines much easier and faster, and in some cases, a clip is required in order for the magazine to work (e.g. M1 Garand). It is speculated that the confusion and misuse of the terms came about in the world of guns when troops who used the M1 Garand in the US Military started using other firearms and continued to used the term "clip" when referring to what was actually a magazine

http://www.minutemanreview....sson-in-firearm.html

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quote Originally posted by NickD3.4: Any honest person who is well educated on firearms will often tell you that hi-point is a POS.

My brother and father that own a pawn shop, that have seen probably thousands of guns pass throught their store in the last 18 years, will tell you the same thing!
They do NOT go bang every time, and some times when they do, they go BOOM instead! If they stilll have it, I could get a picture of one that litterly blew up when fired.

Kevin

quote Originally posted by OKflyboy: A magazine is what is used to feed the weapon itself, whereas a clip is used to feed the magazine. Clips make loading of magazines much easier and faster, and in some cases, a clip is required in order for the magazine to work (e.g. M1 Garand). It is speculated that the confusion and misuse of the terms came about in the world of guns when troops who used the M1 Garand in the US Military started using other firearms and continued to used the term "clip" when referring to what was actually a magazine http://www.minutemanreview....sson-in-firearm.html

That might be true for some but in my way of words I refer to the unit that holds the rounds and a "Clip".....Always have and always willl.....

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: That might be true for some but in my way of words I refer to the unit that holds the rounds and a "Clip".....Always have and always willl.....

And forever wrong you shall remain.

Kevin

quote Originally posted by Lambo nut: they go BOOM instead! If they stilll have it, I could get a picture of one that litterly blew up when fired. Kevin

I think you're thinking of a Glock dude.....They go "BOOM" when fired....
Google image search "Blown up hi point". You find 2 or 3
Google image search "Blown up Glock". Every picture.

quote Originally posted by Lambo nut: And forever wrong you shall remain. Kevin

Exactly.

I could just as easily say "In my way of words I always refer to Fieros as Firebirds, always have, always will." That won't change the fact the every time I point to a Fiero and say "Hey, look at that Firebird" I'll be completely wrong, because its NOT a Firebird, its a Fiero, and automotive enthusiasts who know better will think me foolish.

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quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: I think you're thinking of a Glock dude.....They go "BOOM" when fired.... Google image search "Blown up hi point". You find 2 or 3 Google image search "Blown up Glock". Every picture.

How quick can you get YOUR hands on a Glock that has blown up, dude?

Kevin

quote Originally posted by User00013170: Since he was talking the 995, i don't think hi-point pistols on the street in unknown conditions with people of unknown skill would be a fair comparison. but that's just me. For what its with i have put several thousand rounds thru both of mine ( i have one of their 9mm pistols with the compensator and the older style carbine ) and have not had one failure ( and i pretty much don't clean them, other than hose them down, then some compressed air and let them drip ) Cant speak for new ones but would i trust mine in a situation at home? Sure. Would i carry it? No. its too big and bulky. ( it was a cheap range toy when i couldn't afford more than one decent gun to carry, so carry was never part of my plans anyway )

I expect a weapon to work on the street in adverse conditions. I feel seeing their performance on the street is a true reflection of the weapons performance. In a real world setting, what good is a weapon that only works when pampered at the range? Does a Glock or AK have such issues when kicked around? ...nope. Glock, Baretta, Colt, Sig, Springfield, etc. are combat proven systems. Hi-points on the other hand are proven cheap and that's not saying much.

OMG IT EXPLODED ALL OVER MY LAPTOP!!!!

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: OMG IT EXPLODED ALL OVER MY LAPTOP!!!!

Well, since its 'sploded and all, I'd be happy to dispose of the pieces for you...

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: I think you're thinking of a Glock dude.....They go "BOOM" when fired.... Google image search "Blown up hi point". You find 2 or 3 Google image search "Blown up Glock". Every picture.

yeah...they go boom..... thats why their the most used pistol by LE in the states as well as the Austrian military. The pics out there that are "real" are from people loading massive custom hot loads which risk destroying any weapon. The fact you would actually claim that Glocks explode after the many years and thousands of Glocks used and currently used by military and LE is beyond me. Thats a pretty ignorant and ambiguous statement.

Early Glock .40 cals had Kaboom problems, lead-fouled barrels have Kaboom problems, and bad reloads cause Kaboom problems. But most of those issues are not issues at all as long as you don't shoot lead bullet reloads that bubba overcharghed with powder through a factory Glock barrel. Otherwise, Glocks are awesomely-tough, mostly-idiot proof guns which makes them great for carry weapons.

When it comes to Hi-Points.... you kinda get what you pay for. Its a very simple, no-frills weapon that goes boom as long as the end user takes care of the damn thing. Non-working guns brought into pawn shops don't surprise me at all... some idiot shot the crap out of the gun till it quit working, probably never cleaned it and in the process damaged it, and just dumped it for whatever he could get out of it without considering sending it in for warranty work.

I'd rather have a Hi-Point than nothing.

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originally stories of exploding Glocks came out of the Portland Oregon police dept. it was later reveled they were firing hot reloads.

quote Originally posted by Lambo nut: And forever wrong you shall remain. Kevin

I can live with that......

I always never knew what to call them either...

That why I always called them 'bullet holder thingies'...

remember when they banned the production of the more than 10 round bullet holder thingies?... I had to pay some big bucks for 17round bullet holder thingie for my CZ-75 boomstick thingie...

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Hi-Point, Jimenez, Phoenix all are inexpensive guns that do their job.

That is fine if you have a gun from any manufacture, just remember that many countries you can't own guns.

If you want a Hi-Point and think its the greatest gun ever made and that Glocks explode on everybody, that is fine.

Personally I don't like Hi-Points for the feel of them. If I can afford a better balanced gun that feels much more comfortable then I'm going to do it.

If all I could afford was $150 for a gun show gun, then Hi-Point is your choice.