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Yeah, **** you too, freaking liberals. by theBDub
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Only replying because this is up at the top, so I'm not bumpin' it

Didn't read everything in here, but

Sounds like he had a bad day, maybe he's exhausted and frustrated and just ranted.

Some good can come threads like this...lessons can be learned all over the place...


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Originally posted by Boondawg:


Be nice if you could afford me that same generosity from time-to-time.
I have never been half that inflamitory, yet have recieved twice the contempt from you.

Guess it's not in the delivery, but in the choice of what's popular to attack.
Liberals bad.
Guns good.

I just wish MY world was that simple.
I have the misfortune of being aware of balance.
I cannot just point at a group and lay all my blame on them.
Why?
Becouse it's ignorant.

I know the World is bigger then that.
Black & white is dead.
Shades is what the thinking man see's.
Becouse that is reality, and wishing it wasn't don't make it not so.

But hey, if a person wants it simple, he can just pick a group and pile all his blame upon them.
Worked for Ahab.

Now we will see what you choose to read over, and to read in.


Your world, is exactly that simple, because you've chosen to believe there is no such thing as truth, that there is a huge grey area around everything and that black and white is "dead", and that one doesn't have to make a stand on their principles if they choose not to divulge what their priciples are. The problem with that is, when a person makes posts and replys in which they are almost always coming down on what is generally accepted by virtually any recognized definition as liberal in nature, it's not too difficult to have a pretty good idea where one actually stands, regardless of what they may publicly say. You like govt in general, are fully in favor of SS continuing, have said you don't feel this generation should have to take care of the debt, have serious problems with people defending thier property even tho the law says that is their right, have said you "don't have time" to give back to the country, prefer to 'let "smarter people than me" worry about the policys' of the country, have done nothing as far as your senior years financial security goes (other than the required SS contributions) and claim you've done your share because you "vote and pay taxes" (not that you have achoice in one of those), and have argued in favor of Obamacare as well as frequently posting MSNBC political articles (a self admitted liberal source). You think the nation will be ok on the present course simply because it always has been ok. Sorry, but those are all liberal attributes, and 235 years ain't crap as nations go.

Having said that, there absolutely nothing wrong with being a liberal. I have tons of respect for anyone who stands by their values, social ideologies, and political beliefs, regardless of whether i happen to agree with those stances, but little for any who cower behind a veil or bubble of grey denial, leaving all the heavy lifting of keeping this great nation moving forward to others.
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So b1tching about crap on the internet is "heavy lifting"? Don, as much respect as I have for you, I have to take issue that just because someone does not copy and paste every World Net Daily article on a message board for a car that most of the population has forgotten about does not mean that they are less of an American then someone who does. You don't know what everyone does, and just because someone wants to maintain a little privacy about what they do doesn't mean that they don't do anything. Personally, I know that I delete about 99% of what I want to post because habitually some Adam Henry has to twist it and throw it back in my face. I don't share pics anymore, and I miss that. But my serenity is more important to me then arguing some partisan boolsheet to make myself look impressive to people that I will never meet and don't particularly care if I do. I'm not trying to defend Boondawg, he doesn't need the association with me. But if you are going to paint people like fierobear and Avengador as "heavy lifters" because of their political "activism", that is just not right.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:

So b1tching about crap on the internet is "heavy lifting"? Don, as much respect as I have for you, I have to take issue that just because someone does not copy and paste every World Net Daily article on a message board for a car that most of the population has forgotten about does not mean that they are less of an American then someone who does. You don't know what everyone does, and just because someone wants to maintain a little privacy about what they do doesn't mean that they don't do anything. Personally, I know that I delete about 99% of what I want to post because habitually some Adam Henry has to twist it and throw it back in my face. I don't share pics anymore, and I miss that. But my serenity is more important to me then arguing some partisan boolsheet to make myself look impressive to people that I will never meet and don't particularly care if I do. I'm not trying to defend Boondawg, he doesn't need the association with me. But if you are going to paint people like fierobear and Avengador as "heavy lifters" because of their political "activism", that is just not right.


I don't consider any internet discussion board exchange to be anything other than what it is, and certainly not heavy lifting when it comes to the future of this country.

1. I have posted several times in absolute opposition to the "King of cut and paste", have ridiculed WND for the sorry rag it is, and encouraged him to actually form and post an opinion in his own once in a while, which he deferred upon. Heavy lifting? Hardly.

2. An old thread. When I suggested to Boondawg, that he give back to the country in any way he could, such as visit the elderly, deliver meals on wheels sort of thing, serve meals in a homeless kitchen, attend a city council meeting, mentor a young person, get involved in community politics, etc, that is when he said "I don't have time", but he certainly, during the same time period, had plenty of time to post quite a few threads about the new computer systems he was building to run the newer games, and details about where he found the components. But, I suppose, the next time a Soil and Conservation meeting, or County Commissioner's meeting comes up, or the elderly couple down the road needs checked on, or the Wolf Creek Volunteer fire dept needs some help, I should just tell 'em I'm too busy posting on PFF and won't be there--after all, I've done my part--I paid my taxes and I voted.


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She shouldnt need government benefits. A lawyer should be able to get millions from the trucking company owner that hit her. Id be owning the company. Dumb azzes get hundreds of thousands from spilling their own coffee on themselves at McDs.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

She shouldnt need government benefits. A lawyer should be able to get millions from the trucking company owner that hit her. Id be owning the company. Dumb azzes get hundreds of thousands from spilling their own coffee on themselves at McDs.


While you are right Roger, both, getting disability and money from the trucking company that hit her can take years. As I said it took me about 3 years to finally get my disability and only then after I called my local senator. And we almost lost our farm even though all we had left was a year of payments, and were paying interest payments all along after we were finally unable to pay payments because of medical expenses.


Getting a lawyer involved only cuts the amount of her payment for the time it takes her to finally get her money.

I swear they just drag it out so their cut is more. All lawyers who work disability claims get a percentage and the longer they drag their feet the more they get. The percentages are different for different states so ask before you use any attorney.

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Your world, is exactly that simple, because you've chosen to believe there is no such thing as truth, that there is a huge grey area around everything and that black and white is "dead", and that one doesn't have to make a stand on their principles if they choose not to divulge what their priciples are. The problem with that is, when a person makes posts and replys in which they are almost always coming down on what is generally accepted by virtually any recognized definition as liberal in nature, it's not too difficult to have a pretty good idea where one actually stands, regardless of what they may publicly say. You like govt in general, are fully in favor of SS continuing, have said you don't feel this generation should have to take care of the debt, have serious problems with people defending thier property even tho the law says that is their right, have said you "don't have time" to give back to the country, prefer to 'let "smarter people than me" worry about the policys' of the country, have done nothing as far as your senior years financial security goes (other than the required SS contributions) and claim you've done your share because you "vote and pay taxes" (not that you have achoice in one of those), and have argued in favor of Obamacare as well as frequently posting MSNBC political articles (a self admitted liberal source). You think the nation will be ok on the present course simply because it always has been ok. Sorry, but those are all liberal attributes, and 235 years ain't crap as nations go.

Having said that, there absolutely nothing wrong with being a liberal. I have tons of respect for anyone who stands by their values, social ideologies, and political beliefs, regardless of whether i happen to agree with those stances, but little for any who cower behind a veil or bubble of grey denial, leaving all the heavy lifting of keeping this great nation moving forward to others.



 
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Originally posted by maryjane:


I don't consider any internet discussion board exchange to be anything other than what it is, and certainly not heavy lifting when it comes to the future of this country.

1. I have posted several times in absolute opposition to the "King of cut and paste", have ridiculed WND for the sorry rag it is, and encouraged him to actually form and post an opinion in his own once in a while, which he deferred upon. Heavy lifting? Hardly.

2. An old thread. When I suggested to Boondawg, that he give back to the country in any way he could, such as visit the elderly, deliver meals on wheels sort of thing, serve meals in a homeless kitchen, attend a city council meeting, mentor a young person, get involved in community politics, etc, that is when he said "I don't have time", but he certainly, during the same time period, had plenty of time to post quite a few threads about the new computer systems he was building to run the newer games, and details about where he found the components. But, I suppose, the next time a Soil and Conservation meeting, or County Commissioner's meeting comes up, or the elderly couple down the road needs checked on, or the Wolf Creek Volunteer fire dept needs some help, I should just tell 'em I'm too busy posting on PFF and won't be there--after all, I've done my part--I paid my taxes and I voted.



I could spend hours explaning to you how all the things YOU think I should do to be a good american or person are absolutly irrelivent to me, and anyone else who thinks outside the herd.
The fact that you reserve that kind of judgement for me alone here says more about you then I ever could.

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

She shouldnt need government benefits. A lawyer should be able to get millions from the trucking company owner that hit her. Id be owning the company. Dumb azzes get hundreds of thousands from spilling their own coffee on themselves at McDs.


You'd think.
But it isn't that simple.
There is a very good chance we won't even get enough to cover it all, let alone come out ahead like everyone thinks we will.
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Company insurance has its limitations. Then they have to go after the company itself and that can drag things out even longer. It is best that she just try to get her disability first and foremost. Then if she does get something from the insurance or company or both they will have to reimburse the disability .

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Originally posted by Boondawg:


I could spend hours explaning to you how all the things YOU think I should do to be a good american or person are absolutly irrelivent to me, and anyone else who thinks outside the herd.
The fact that you reserve that kind of judgement for me alone here says more about you then I ever could.



Hey Jesus, how do you type with those nail holes in your hands? Poor tortured soul.

 
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Originally posted by maryjane:

When I suggested to Boondawg, that he give back to the country in any way he could, such as visit the elderly, deliver meals on wheels sort of thing, serve meals in a homeless kitchen, attend a city council meeting, mentor a young person, get involved in community politics, etc, that is when he said "I don't have time", but he certainly, during the same time period, had plenty of time to post quite a few threads about the new computer systems he was building to run the newer games, and details about where he found the components. But, I suppose, the next time a Soil and Conservation meeting, or County Commissioner's meeting comes up, or the elderly couple down the road needs checked on, or the Wolf Creek Volunteer fire dept needs some help, I should just tell 'em I'm too busy posting on PFF and won't be there--after all, I've done my part--I paid my taxes and I voted.




Anyway, Don, if everyone sacrificed the same, it wouldn't be called heavy lifting, would it? It would just be "normal". So take comfort that you are willing and able to do what not everyone would or could do for their communities. I'm not going to say that mentoring kids is irrelivent(sic) so I can be "outside the herd", but anything charitable that I do doesn't need to have an audience on the world wide web in order to be validated.

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so, are you saying you would be better off with a poor, unemployed dad, living N. of St. Louis?

we have this holiday - its called Thankgiving. It is intented to look upon the good things you have. And, I am sure you have plenty. And, you are going to overlook all you and your family has over a scooter? Do you really think "those people" are living better than you? and if so, why do you not join them? We all get the frustration. Really do. But, "those people" you are putting up on a pedestal, because they have scooters, and you dont, are not living some magic lives. And, I am quite sure, if you saw the reality of their days - you wouldn't be pining to trade places.

I too have been denied things because "my dad made to much". And, now my daughter gets denied things because I make too much. And, I'll take my life over "those people" any day. And, I am more than happy to chip in to help "those people", likely because my life has never been to far away from being "those people".

but - to be clear - I 100% understand - and would likely be saying the same things had this been my mom.
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

She shouldnt need government benefits. A lawyer should be able to get millions from the trucking company owner that hit her. Id be owning the company. Dumb azzes get hundreds of thousands from spilling their own coffee on themselves at McDs.


I've seen that attempted before. My best friend had a fiance that was killed in a wreck.. semi ran a red light and just creamed her car. There was nothing left.

Anyhow, trucking company got taken to court. Negligence was proven and a money amount was set for them to give back to the family.

The very next day after court was over, they declared bankruptcy and restructured under a differnet name and never gave that family a dime.

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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:
Personally, I know that I delete about 99% of what I want to post because habitually some Adam Henry has to twist it and throw it back in my face.


Holy crap, Jeff, I guess we'd hate to read that 99%. And it is often that 1% that gets you into hot water.

 
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But if you are going to paint people like fierobear and Avengador as "heavy lifters" because of their political "activism", that is just not right.


So, who is a "heavy lifter" in your book? What actions matter?

I post articles so others can learn what I'm learning, and possibly know what troubles might be coming that could affect them. It is difficult to prepare if you don't know. I can testify to that, having lost six figures because I wasn't doing enough research.

As for action, I started our local Tea Party group. We have members who attend public meetings, city and county councils, ask questions, make suggestions, try to get people elected who will make positive changes, and we are also doing a public showing and study of the Constitution. I am DOING something. I do a lot of that stuff after having worked 8-9 hours and having driven up to or over 200 miles. I'm am often pretty f***ing tired, but this is too important to leave the "heavy lifting" to others.
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Originally posted by fierobear:


So, who is a "heavy lifter" in your book? What actions matter?

I post articles so others can learn what I'm learning, and possibly know what troubles might be coming that could affect them. It is difficult to prepare if you don't know. I can testify to that, having lost six figures because I wasn't doing enough research.

As for action, I started our local Tea Party group. We have members who attend public meetings, city and county councils, ask questions, make suggestions, try to get people elected who will make positive changes, and we are also doing a public showing and study of the Constitution. I am DOING something. I do a lot of that stuff after having worked 8-9 hours and having driven up to or over 200 miles. I'm am often pretty f***ing tired, but this is too important to leave the "heavy lifting" to others.


Well, you're a game changer then. Let me know if it has any results. <- sincere.

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Guys... cool it.
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I have zero problems with cut & paste opinions. There are good writers out there who can say that which I agree with better than I can.
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Cut & paste opinions are at least honest enough to show where their opinion came from.


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Originally posted by Doug85GT:
Cut & paste opinions are at least honest enough to show where their opinion came from.

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or a sign of an empty head that needs to be spoonfed
or a sign of someone who spends alot of time researching on what they post
or a sign of ________________

the list is endless
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I know you are angry, but your post is full of all kinds of inaccrurate blame-placing & double-standards.
I get what you are saying and I think your mom indeed deserves to get her benifets, but be prepaired that some here will tell you that she does not, and that it should be abolished.
On second thought, I bet they WON'T come here and tell you that, even though that is exactly what they have said many times.

I don't think it is a liberal, dem, or repub problem.
It is a bureaucracy problem.
As always.

I wish your mom the best, and she may just need to get a lawyer to get it done.
It is the way of the bureaucracy.


I agree with Boonie with the addition of contacting your local congressmen to see what they can to do help you out.
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All the best Brennan. Your post may have been written while you were upset but no doubt it came from the love for your Mom and the frustration of what she and your family is enduring. Hang in there and best of luck to you dealing with everything you have on your plate.
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Wow, wow, wow.
So many targets, so little time.
More prayers your Mom's way theBDub, .
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Originally posted by weaselbeak:

It has never been a "liberal" problem when dealing with denied benefits. It's long been a conservative thing.



Any proof to back that claim up?

I would seem to think its a government thing irrespective of the political leanings of the person in the position.
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Any proof to back that claim up?

I would seem to think its a government thing irrespective of the political leanings of the person in the position.



Just do a simple google search on Reagan and his shenanigans on denying benefits. It's not hard. Dem administrations are not known for this nearly so bad.

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This thread sure took a turn for the worst. In before the trash!
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This thread sure took a turn for the worst. In before the trash!


I dont think it STARTED anywhere positive, not sure how it could have become worse.
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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:

Well, you're a game changer then. Let me know if it has any results. <- sincere.



For the record, it isn't about me...it's about my family, then community, then state, then country. I sincerely believe all are in danger because we're on an unsustainable financial path. If these problems aren't fixed, the future doesn't look very good.

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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:
Hey Jesus, how do you type with those nail holes in your hands? Poor tortured soul.



Some believe it was my his wrists that were pierced.
The hands won't hold the bodyweight?

I'm no martyr.
I'm probibly the most 'live & let live' person here.
With others, as well as my own life.
It would be nice to get that same courtesy in return from Maryjane.

I'm sure he lives his life exactly as he chooses, and would take GREAT offense to someone telling him he is not doing enough to support his family/town/city/state/country.
I mean really, who are THEY to decide such things?

I don't know............hell, I can't even tell you who they think they are.
Oh yeah, better then, that's right.

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Some believe it was my his wrists that were pierced.
The hands won't hold the bodyweight?

I'm no martyr.
I'm probibly the most 'live & let live' person here.
With others, as well as my own life.
It would be nice to get that same courtesy in return from Maryjane.

I'm sure he lives his life


It is clear that you respect maryjane and want him to respect you back. Othewise why would you take it so personally when he replies to your posts?


I respect you both for different reasons.

For maryjane it is that he exemplifies what a Texan is. Being one myself with very similar values and background, I can relate to him despite the generation gap.

For you, I respect the choice to up and move. It takes a lot of courage to cut the roots of a pretty good situation and try for your promised land. I did that too last year when I moved to Austihn from denver.

But if i'm being honest, I don't give much thought to what either of you think of me. Your posts are entertaining, sometimes thoughtprovoking, but once I close the browser window y'all get stored away until the next time I'm here. If I ever met either of you in person it might be different, but it is what it is.

Hopefully you can just continue your own journey and not worry about what someone on the internet thinks about you. Good luck boonie, for whatever it's worth to you.
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It is clear that you respect maryjane and want him to respect you back. Othewise why would you take it so personally when he replies to your posts?


I respect you both for different reasons.

For maryjane it is that he exemplifies what a Texan is. Being one myself with very similar values and background, I can relate to him despite the generation gap.

For you, I respect the choice to up and move. It takes a lot of courage to cut the roots of a pretty good situation and try for your promised land. I did that too last year when I moved to Austihn from denver.

But if i'm being honest, I don't give much thought to what either of you think of me. Your posts are entertaining, sometimes thoughtprovoking, but once I close the browser window y'all get stored away until the next time I'm here. If I ever met either of you in person it might be different, but it is what it is.

Hopefully you can just continue your own journey and not worry about what someone on the internet thinks about you. Good luck boonie, for whatever it's worth to you.


I like this post.
A lot.
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Some believe it was my his wrists that were pierced.
The hands won't hold the bodyweight?

I'm no martyr.
I'm probibly the most 'live & let live' person here.
With others, as well as my own life.
It would be nice to get that same courtesy in return from Maryjane.

I'm sure he lives his life exactly as he chooses, and would take GREAT offense to someone telling him he is not doing enough to support his family/town/city/state/country.
I mean really, who are THEY to decide such things?

I don't know............hell, I can't even tell you who they think they are.
Oh yeah, better then, that's right.



I would take very little offense (if any at all) to someone telling me how to live my life. Many do try to influence my life and In fact, you just did it as well. And I have no problem with that effort on your part at all, and am truly glad to see, that you finally decided to take a solid stand on an issue. See--it really wasn't all that difficult after all.

 
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I'm probibly the most 'live & let live' person here.
With others, as well as my own life.
It would be nice to get that same courtesy in return from Maryjane


People, from all sorts of areas tell me how to live my life, and I give their words all the consideration they warrant. All different kinds of people tell me how to live: Ministers, sinners, saints, Presidents, congressmen, voters, Marine and Naval Officers, policemen, internet acquaintences, friends, relatives, message board moderators and strangers on the street. It pleases me to no end that each has taken the time and gone to the effort to form an opinion regarding my life and I often even follow their directives, suggestions and orders, if I believe they have merit , and just about as often, make every attempt to disuade them in their beliefs, but no matter what, I don't get offended. It is, after all, their unaleinable and spelled out right under the constitution to speak their mind about me or anyone or anything else they wish, and seeing as I once (several times actually) took an oath to defend that constitution, it would be more than a little hipocritical of me to assume they shouldn't take advantage of their rights.

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Dont worry about the liberals, revenge day is upon us. The entire system is going to collapse soon, and hopefully we wont have to see anymore of their agenda pushed for the next century. Im excited to see people like Barney Fwank and Nancy Pe-lousy, Chuck U Schumer and Lord Obama searching for scraps in a dumpster.
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Originally posted by maryjane:


People, from all sorts of areas tell me how to live my life, and I give their words all the consideration they warrant. All different kinds of people tell me how to live: Ministers, sinners, saints, Presidents, congressmen, voters, Marine and Naval Officers, policemen, internet acquaintences, friends, relatives, message board moderators and strangers on the street. It pleases me to no end that each has taken the time and gone to the effort to form an opinion regarding my life and I often even follow their directives, suggestions and orders, if I believe they have merit , and just about as often, make every attempt to disuade them in their beliefs, but no matter what, I don't get offended. It is, after all, their unaleinable and spelled out right under the constitution to speak their mind about me or anyone or anything else they wish, and seeing as I once (several times actually) took an oath to defend that constitution, it would be more than a little hipocritical of me to assume they shouldn't take advantage of their rights.



I wasn't talking about someone telling someone else HOW to live their life, but about someone telling someone else that he wasn't doing ENOUGH to support his family/town/city/state/country.

I could go on & on about how wrong that is, but I am tired of these round-&-rounds that get started when I stick-up for someone or some group broadly accused of silly things, and it ends up becoming personal, about me and my life.
And you are usually the person that makes it about me personaly.

Do I every comment on or tear down your life when debating?
Or do you just think I don't becouse you & it are perfect?

I don't do it becouse I can talk about a subject WITHOUT bringing you or your life PERSONALY into it.


P,S. You take great pleasure in taking jabs at my perceived unwillingness to 'take a stand', despite the fact that most of my posts are defending someone or something that I feel is being unfairly portrayed.
When you condem me for not standing for my own beliefs, you blindly overlook me standing for my belief in standing for others.

It all makes me very tired, standing up for me not standing up to your presise standards of 'standing up'.

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P,S. You take great pleasure in taking jabs at my perceived unwillingness to 'take a stand', despite the fact that most of my posts are defending someone or something that I feel is being unfairly portrayed.
When you condem me for not standing for my own beliefs, you blindly overlook me standing for my belief in standing for others.

It all makes me very tired, standing up for me not standing up to your presise standards of 'standing up'.



With all due respect, Boonie, and I mean that... you hardly ever truly take a stand.
You might throw in a "Have you thought of this?" or "I don't believe it has to be that way", but you don't take a hard stand.
In fact, when you did in this thread, I noticed, because it was so rare.

You seem to try and make a point, but if you're questioned many times you back up and say "I'm just putting in an opinion but it could go either way." You walk along the fence as to not offend anyone, but in reality your beliefs aren't along the fence. Your beliefs are on the ground below the fence, and you won't pick them up and hold them as your own.

It's just what I've noticed.

And taking heat off another's back isn't taking a stand, either.
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With all due respect, Boonie, and I mean that... you hardly ever truly take a stand.
You might throw in a "Have you thought of this?" or "I don't believe it has to be that way", but you don't take a hard stand.
In fact, when you did in this thread, I noticed, because it was so rare.

You seem to try and make a point, but if you're questioned many times you back up and say "I'm just putting in an opinion but it could go either way." You walk along the fence as to not offend anyone, but in reality your beliefs aren't along the fence. Your beliefs are on the ground below the fence, and you won't pick them up and hold them as your own.

It's just what I've noticed.

And taking heat off another's back isn't taking a stand, either.


I think Boonie wants his readers to think and seek the answers for themselves by his style of writing. Boonie wants his readers to seek the truth for themselves in their own minds, sort of a "finding nirvana" sort of thing.



and he has the god given gift of being able to talk fast and performance rated computers too.

Boonie is an asset to PFF and I think a true frind to many of us. (COMPLIMENT INTENDED)
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My brother applied for disability for terminal brain cancer.... he would have had to wait 5 months.... and of course he died before that. Yeah, great system we have.... You are covered..... but read the fine print. Pony up for a lawyer. Contact your Rep... contact the news, make a big stink, as that is the only time our wonderful government will do anything....

It will only get worse with Obamacare and other socialist programs.
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My brother applied for disability for terminal brain cancer.... he would have had to wait 5 months.... and of course he died before that. Yeah, great system we have.... You are covered..... but read the fine print. Pony up for a lawyer. Contact your Rep... contact the news, make a big stink, as that is the only time our wonderful government will do anything....

It will only get worse with Obamacare and other socialist programs.


I always thought it was 3 months. anyways - sorry to hear about your brother.
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It is clear that you respect maryjane and want him to respect you back. Othewise why would you take it so personally when he replies to your posts?


I respect you both for different reasons.

For maryjane it is that he exemplifies what a Texan is. Being one myself with very similar values and background, I can relate to him despite the generation gap.

For you, I respect the choice to up and move. It takes a lot of courage to cut the roots of a pretty good situation and try for your promised land. I did that too last year when I moved to Austihn from denver.

But if i'm being honest, I don't give much thought to what either of you think of me. Your posts are entertaining, sometimes thoughtprovoking, but once I close the browser window y'all get stored away until the next time I'm here. If I ever met either of you in person it might be different, but it is what it is.

Hopefully you can just continue your own journey and not worry about what someone on the internet thinks about you. Good luck boonie, for whatever it's worth to you.



Look, the honest truth is that the only thing here that's important is what you think about ME... not either of them.


 
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Dont worry about the liberals, revenge day is upon us. The entire system is going to collapse soon, and hopefully we wont have to see anymore of their agenda pushed for the next century. Im excited to see people like Barney Fwank and Nancy Pe-lousy, Chuck U Schumer and Lord Obama searching for scraps in a dumpster.


I'm really trying to be nice here... but... let's be honest, is there anyone here who would NOT enjoy seeing Nancy Pelosi rummaging through a dumpster? Seriously... I actually don't know any Democrats that still like her.
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"It will only get worse with Obamacare and other socialist programs."


Pure conjecture. You cannot cite a single example of things being worse when it hasn't even taken effect.
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Look, the honest truth is that the only thing here that's important is what you think about ME... not either of them.


Never heard of you.
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"It will only get worse with Obamacare and other socialist programs."


Pure conjecture. You cannot cite a single example of things being worse when it hasn't even taken effect.


Not conjecture. Obamacare is SO incredibly wonderful, 1,372 companies now have waivers out of it.

http://www.marketwatch.com/...rs-climb-nearly-1400

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