quote Originally posted by partfiero: And as far as the government being communist, or as I call it commie light. The hardest thing for me to stomach was when I came to the realization that in the daily life of a Chinese person, they have far less government intrusion than we do. Guangzhou has 8.5 million, and there are just three government offices. Plus they are to hold local elections in that city this year. So maybe what a government is labeled is no gauge to what it actually is.

At a more micro-level... I'd say as Americans we are fussed with a bit more than the Chinese, but I think that has more to do with the fact that there are so many more people in China, with less resources to police, and quite honestly... what does it matter to them if a person decides to use their cell phone while driving a car? Little laws like that are so insignificant to them when nearly half of the Chinese roads are still pea-gravel.

But from a macro-standpoint... we as US citizens have significantly more freedom than the Chinese do. Our communications aren't regulated. Freedom of speech is a very important value here in the US, and that's something that's for the most part, regulated in China. But as you say... the more they become capitalist, the more the old communist ways slowly dissapear. If we keep on with how we are going, we may very well get to the point that China has more freedoms than we do... but as of right now, they certainly do not. Freedom of speech is certainly limited, and the local elections are really nothing more than for fun, because quite honestly, the PRC can really do whatever they want at any point, and the local governments would have no say at all.

quote Originally posted by newf: I'm not even part of the discussion and you still feel the need to lay out a personal insult, hey? I guess it's kind of a compliment that you think of me sooooo much but I really find your advances kind of pathetic and immature to be honest. Oh and you might want revisit the definition of that word you love to call me.

Yeah normally, if I had respect for the person, I would have said something. But this pretty much proves he's beyond help and I already knew that. Some people are just miserable insulters, Newf. Its all they have in an argument. I love getting called out in threads I have not even read, too, let alone ones I posted in. Its so mature.

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You know... the real reason China is communist is because of people like Newf and tBone...

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: It has been and always will be the reason this and other countries does everything it does. To eliminate percieved threats to the statis quo from without, AND from within. If we didn't see monsters in the shadows, we would have to invent them. Nothing personal, just business.

Not that I have much of an opinion on the gender thing, but I'm more scared about the reality of the USA outsourcing it's ability to manufacture much of anything that may be needed in a future conventional conflict.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: You know... the real reason China is communist is because of people like Newf and tBone...

And Mao.. dont forget him. You'll have to try HARDER to get me to not like you, Todd.

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quote Originally posted by tbone42: And Mao.. dont forget him. You'll have to try HARDER to get me to not like you, Todd.

Hahah... see, there, this is admission that you two are like Mao Tse Tung!!!

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Hahah... see, there, this is admission that you two are like Mao Tse Tung!!!

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